The biggest - and most important - difference between the two incidents is that De Burca got a red card during the match, Tuohy didn't.

As such, De Burca received an automatic one match suspension, and on appeal had/has to produce evidence that the offence did not occur (wasn't deliberate).

As Tuohy wasn't sent off during the match, should the CCCC decide to look into that incident they would have to take the view that the footage clearly showed that the offence was committed (i.e. that Tuohy deliberately interfered with the helmet) if they are to hand down a suspension.

game.on.now.ger (Galway) - Posts: 423 - 07/08/2017 15:28:40    2030303

Any game, incident etc can only be looked at in isolation.
And fact is the only basis, TDB incident was flagged by the same linesman and deemed deliberate, result red card as per rules (which was unfair yes but the match officials made a call based on what they seen)

Match officials yesterday did not flag yesterdays "incident" which in no way can be seen as a deliberate foul (considering Adrian Tuohy was facing away from Bonner.

grellans89 (Galway) - Posts: 257 - 07/08/2017 15:34:18    2030307

Haven't seen the incident but lads missed all Ireland's for less.
Brian O Meara in 2001 missed a final for a wee jab contest with Liam Dunne.
Not saying players should be immune but if rules are broken yes suspend the player if clear violation but by all accounts Tuohy should be fine and I hope he doesn't miss the final.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 07/08/2017 15:48:09    2030331

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/08/2017 15:51:21    2030334

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 07/08/2017 16:12:36    2030380

Touhy innocent until proven otherwise

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 07/08/2017 16:21:38    2030400

I now look forward to the Sunday Game reviewing every single game in micro-detail to identify every single infringement be they intentional, unintentional or technical, that were missed by the match officials.

The fact that this witch hunt, for that is what it is, was allegedly initiated by fans from counties that have a chance at playing Galway in the final is laughable.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 07/08/2017 21:23:04    2030620

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 07/08/2017 21:42:10    2030633

I really hope this bull blows over , making mountains out of molehill. Its bad enough that one of the best players this year will not be on show this Sunday because of similar nonsense.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 07/08/2017 22:07:24    2030650

As I said on another thread I've no sour grapes over the result or the refereeing and kelly could not have clearly seen the incident.
Having said that the gaa have set the precedent now so Tuohy is 100% certain to get a ban.
It's a completely unnatural thing to do to grab a faceguard and he made two or three clear attempts to get a grip of it. Theball was in front of him so why did he reach behind?
Don't underestimate how big of a loss he will be for the final.
Ps I think it's a silly rule tbh

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/08/2017 23:42:20    2030712

Good man loughnanne for bringing up this.

bud14 (Galway) - Posts: 296 - 07/08/2017 23:57:04    2030720

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1791 - 08/08/2017 00:20:40    2030730

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 08/08/2017 08:39:35    2030770

Absolutely nothing in this whatsoever. Next time i play a hurling match im going to follow my opponents hand with my head and have him interefere with my helmet.

Straight red and a ban. Happy Days. LOL.

Can common sense please prevail here for the love of god.

AustinGleeson6 (Galway) - Posts: 223 - 08/08/2017 08:56:18    2030773

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 08/08/2017 09:37:05    2030804

GaaGaa78 (UK) - Posts: 285 - 08/08/2017 10:06:10    2030824

I didn't hear a single analyst say there was anything in it, let alone worse than the De Burca incident!
There is no case whatsoever here, the linesman seen what happened with Da Burca, and told the referee based on what he saw.
No way Touhy will get a ban here, he was running away from the player and he put his hand back over his head and the players helmet opened. He did not grab the faceguard even. The helmet just opened.
Get over it. Move on.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 08/08/2017 10:54:52    2030859

To me both incidents do not deserves players being banned. The De Burca case to me shows a very poor understanding of the game and more importantly a poor application of the rule. Similarly with the Tuohy incident. Why if the same linesman for both incidents - did he not get involved on Sunday as the incident happened during the play and report to the referee?

I think the GAA have made a serious boo boo and De Burca should be given a clean slate. Over zealousness of application of rules within a contact sport is not good practice in general.

To me the GAA could clear up the entire situation and issue a clearer directive on what exactly and in what circumstances constitutes the infraction.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 08/08/2017 13:41:12    2031012

When will we know if there will be something mad out of this?

grellans89 (Galway) - Posts: 257 - 08/08/2017 16:14:52    2031136

Can Sunday please hurry up and come so Cork can beat Waterford? Then we can all enjoy a good final with two actual hurling teams left. Im sick of listening to Waterford people on here.

HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 08/08/2017 16:35:38    2031151