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* regarding Carlow, and also about Tipp having only 18 players!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 24/05/2017 12:35:41 1990215 Link 0 |
http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/i-said-wed-as-much-chance-of-winning-an-allireland-as-carlow-cummins-calls-for-tipp-repeat-of-2010-meeting-35743950.html
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 24/05/2017 13:48:09 1990254 Link 1 |
Cummins is now saying to drop Bubbles and Gleeson. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 24/05/2017 17:53:47 1990368 Link 0 |
Nailed.
dead_as_dodos (Carlow) - Posts: 459 - 24/05/2017 20:13:47 1990410 Link 0 |
No, more like golf I'd say. Yeah the hurling was sublime in terms of scores and individual skills but the Cork players got SO much room to swing and play the perfect shot that it reminded me of golfers on the tee. In the real world of hurling, you don't get that much time and space and I think that will be very evident in their next game.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 24/05/2017 22:48:59 1990456 Link 0 |
If you go to club hurling matches in galway the last few years it's as about as physical as a game of U12 Community games tiddly winks. From one extreme to the other since the Johnny Maher incident
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 25/05/2017 15:42:00 1990704 Link 0 |
After watching the game again I'm finding it very hard to see where it was one of the great games. It was just so open and loose. therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 25/05/2017 20:27:44 1990810 Link 0 |
The media love to paint that picture of great hurling games. It was a good spectacle for all bar Tipp supporters though. It's a bit early to say a youngish team are finished. THe hunger is missing this year for some reason. Not mking excuses but they've played a lot of games already and from what I hear the Club cship is gone to be postponed until Tipp are gone, which is a load of bull tbh tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/05/2017 13:24:52 1990999 Link 0 |
I doubt the hunger is gone. Tipp were spoken off as almost unbeatable after the first 5 or 6 games of the year. The panel was too good we heard. Their subs would just walk on all other teams. Then they lost two games and now they are too old, have no hunger or discipline. All analysis is reactionary. Tipperary are the current AI champions. They are still in the race for this year's All-Ireland. They are still one of the best teams. They may win the All - Ireland this year. They may not as there are afew other good teams as well. Tipp, Galway and KK are still well ahead of the chasing pack in my opinion. Cork, Clare, Waterford, Wexford, Limerick and Dublin could potentially beat one of those three but are unlikely to be consistent enough to beat 2 or all 3 in one year. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 26/05/2017 14:52:16 1991031 Link 0 |
Very interesting post therealtmo. I never bought into the hype surrounding Tipp in the league and I don't think other Tipp posters here did either. Other posters saying Tipp were invincible and comparing them to the Dublin footballers was pure bull. I would like to think it's the latter. I think the likes of Brendan Maher and Noel McGrath are Hurling well at the min. Padraic Maher is doing enough, being captain of Tipp was always a heavy burden to carry, look how good Shane McGrath was when he relinquished it. The only one of the veterans I would be concerned about is Cahill. He seems to be completely off. Bonner and Callanan will come good once the injuries fully heal. Losing to Cork might be a blessing cos Seamie might get a chance to let his thumb probably heal. If we were playing Waterford he would be playing through the pain again. Once we get over the 1st round of the qualifiers we will be fine. Fingers crossed it will be one of he weaker teams. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 26/05/2017 15:52:35 1991066 Link 0 |
Well spotted. I remember that scorching day well. Clare lacked a good full back and were otherwise a fine team. Fr Harry Bohan deserves a lot of credit as well as so many of his players. It could be said they kept Clare in the fore front of hurling.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4317 - 26/05/2017 21:32:49 1991129 Link 0 |
Yes, only bring back the old straight knock out system. The back door was only ever brought in to ensure the bigger counties would win more.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4317 - 26/05/2017 21:39:49 1991130 Link 0 |
Theres no going back to straight knockout unless as a standalone competition. The round robin will bring back an element of knockout in munster. Certain games will be win at all costs. Im optimistic. Poor old Jim Power in '77, after he went off it was over for Clare. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 26/05/2017 22:13:17 1991137 Link 0 |
I hear what you are saying overall. I'm talking about the Munster championship for now. Under the prosposed changes we'd still have three games to play and still be in with a chance of playing in the Munster final. You are absolutely right about the back door in general. Take 2004 and 2013. Under the old format Waterford, Wexford ,Galway or Ulster champions would have been AI winners in 2004 and swap Waterford and Wexford with Limerick and Dublin in 2013 for the four semi-finalists that year. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 26/05/2017 22:18:58 1991138 Link 0 |