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Well did anyone listen to our own Anthony Moyles speaking about this on Off the Ball last night? It's about time something like this was created to give the club players a voice. Club players are being neglected every year by county boards. Club players can realistically only take a holiday in Oct - Dec. It'll be very hard for the CPA to make an impact but I for one am behind anything that helps out the club player VernonSmith (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 19/10/2016 10:10:14 1927469 Link 0 |
I think this is excellent and a very good approach as something needs to be done. The problem really is that every county is different and have unique challenges so the only driver for change needs to be at a county level by reducing or condensing the fixtures. For every point raised last night, and I agreed with all of them, I quickly thought of a counter argument unfortunately. It will be very interesting to watch this progress. Royal_Gunner (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 19/10/2016 10:28:56 1927476 Link 0 |
As was mentioned last night, the GAA delegates wouldn't even move the AIFs forward by 2 weeks at congress. Meath voted last year to overhaul the club champ system earlier this year - which would have streamlined things a little - and that was then reversed. So to expect a huge change is totally unrealistic, as depressing as that is. The democracy of the GAA, which is a strength in some ways, is also a huge drawback when looking to make common-sense changes. BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 19/10/2016 13:11:14 1927557 Link 0 |
It's a nice idea but I think it's probably unworkable. The "club player" could mean the members of Dublin superclubs, or the likes of Castlebar, Crossmaglen, Dr. Crokes etc. who aren't far off an inter county setup and regularly reach the AI club championship. It could also mean the portly junior E sub who was never blessed with any skill or fitness, never trains and is dragged out of the pub to play maybe 5 matches a year. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1639 - 19/10/2016 13:39:38 1927574 Link 4 |
I don't think the levels lads are playing has a huge deal to do with it. It's about condensing the inter-county season so that club players don't have to constantly change holiday plans etc on the whim of a fixtures committee. But I just think that there are too many vested interests at play here and making even the smallest change to things seems to take an age, so a big overhaul like this would appear fanciful. Still, they have to try. There was a time when players would accept this, but I think those days are going or have gone and the GAA is losing a lot of players... BarneysTie (Meath) - Posts: 258 - 19/10/2016 15:01:00 1927607 Link 0 |
It is a good idea and should have happened at the same time as the GPA was set up. After all the club players represent the mass of GAA players and if operated properly would have a greater influence than the GPA. Now of course their are different counties and big clubs and small rural clubs. In the county setup there are also many gaps - what suits Carlow or Leitrim may be different than what suits Dublin yet it operates quite effectively. I think if you sit back and do nothing then nothing happens. I hope it gets off the ground and I have no doubt that over time its influence can be greater than the association of county players. One must not forget that all players are club players (including the ones representing the counties). One of the first problems I would try to solve is to reduce the amount of free Sundays given to county teams prior to Provincial finals and All-Ireland semi-finals and that is one way of ensuring that every county plans 1 weeks holidays for club players/teams so that the can plan a life. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2340 - 19/10/2016 15:16:02 1927610 Link 4 |
What are you on about club players in meath can take holidays from mid may to mid August in the championship free period that we have in the ridiculous club championships we have in the county When county board tried to do something about it the club went for it and then did the u turn. It's time club captains became the county board delegates and there would be no need for a club GPA Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 19/10/2016 16:17:47 1927628 Link 0 |
There is still league and cup matches during this time, just not championship. But i agree that it was ridiculous the gap between the 1st and 2nd round.
rightthere (Meath) - Posts: 128 - 19/10/2016 16:47:08 1927641 Link 0 |
The inter county season is fairly condensed as it is, Meath have played past the first weekend of August twice in the last 15 years. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1639 - 19/10/2016 17:22:10 1927651 Link 4 |
Right but the clubs decide all this they decided to have 7 hurling league games they decided to have 13 football league games. They decided to have 5 championship games in each. Code That's why I say it's time the club captains were the delegates to the county board and then they can vote on what's best and not the silver and grey boys Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 19/10/2016 18:42:21 1927679 Link 0 |