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lads can someone please tell me the rules of hurling because there doesnt seem to be any tonight great game so far and maybe thats why im getting confused with the rules in fairness im not being critical of the ref but the games down south seem to be refed differently than north of the border mrsme (USA) - Posts: 172 - 11/03/2017 20:01:21 1966221 Link
Replying To mrsme: "lads can someone please tell me the rules of hurling because there doesnt seem to be any tonight great game so far and maybe thats why im getting confused with the rules in fairness im not being critical of the ref but the games down south seem to be refed differently than north of the border" there was about 12 steps for tj reids first goal waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 11/03/2017 20:23:35 1966227 Link
Great Game ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 11/03/2017 20:39:33 1966228 Link
Great match for a March Saturday night. Draw fair result from best two teams in the country. Lot of work ahead for both before championship. TJ Reid is some player Kilkenny are nothing without him. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 11/03/2017 20:43:24 1966229 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "Great match for a March Saturday night. Draw fair result from best two teams in the country. Lot of work ahead for both before championship. TJ Reid is some player Kilkenny are nothing without him." He was AWOL for all of last year but he turned up tonight. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 11/03/2017 21:08:15 1966235 Link
dont get me wrong lads it was a great game but was it down to the ref applying the rules or not? it was actually fantastic but again was it because of the skill and commitment or down to the letter of the law being applied? and if its the latter is this the way all games club and inter county games should be ref,ed? my point being if its the latter then refereeing will be accepted in hurling and the rules can go out the window leading to more confusion for players, management and supporters mrsme (USA) - Posts: 172 - 11/03/2017 21:08:52 1966237 Link
Can yo give us an example of what you mean? It was a very clean game that the ref let it flow to add to the game. BTW Tj Reid did not take 10 steps. From what I saw he tapped the ball from hurley to hand in the middle of his solo. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 11/03/2017 21:26:23 1966242 Link
what a game!! you'd be forgiven for thinking that was a championship game. great hurling from 2 great sides juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 11/03/2017 21:26:35 1966243 Link
Great match tipp will be disappointed only drawing though as when game was there to be won they missed about 5 or 6 scoring chances in a row. agree with the opening post as some of reffing was really lax. I counted at least four offences of cynical play that would merit clear black cards if there was a card but yet went unpunished altogether, with the worst being the drag down of callanan bursting in on goal bound shot and not even a yellow card produced was baffling. One good point on officiating was the umpires input for the penalty and awarding of a square ball that football officials seem to think is a non existent rule anymore. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/03/2017 21:26:46 1966244 Link
Some very sharp hurling and a real treat for March. I understand the point about the refereeing but there seems to be an acceptance that as long as both teams are playing by the same rules then all is fair. Warming up to be an excellent summer. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 11/03/2017 21:32:51 1966250 Link
Replying To mrsme: "dont get me wrong lads it was a great game but was it down to the ref applying the rules or not? it was actually fantastic but again was it because of the skill and commitment or down to the letter of the law being applied? and if its the latter is this the way all games club and inter county games should be ref,ed? my point being if its the latter then refereeing will be accepted in hurling and the rules can go out the window leading to more confusion for players, management and supporters" Here's the thing - there are different degrees of applying the rules. Generally at the higher levels, at inter-county level particularly, players will play through a foul - as opposed stopping and looking for a free. This allows the referee to let the game continue. Also, with the higher physicality a certain amount of leeway is granted also - the actual rule itself states "to engage in any form of rough play" which is fairly open to interpretation. A lot of it comes down to keeping control of the game - again at inter-county level there may be some handbags, but players get on with it. At club level, we all know how things can escalate if things are let go too much. In an opposite manner, if the exact letter of the law was applied at club level with regard to notings and yellow card offences (2 notings = yellow, 3rd noting = 2nd yellow) then you'd end up playing 9 or 10 a side by the end of a lot of games. Regarding the mention of steps by another poster, you'll notice TJ Reid took a quick solo after his first couple of steps - again, probably more than 4 steps after that, but I would love to see a game reffed (at any level) where over-carrying was blown every time more than 4 steps were taken and then see the reaction. game.on.now.ger (Galway) - Posts: 423 - 11/03/2017 21:38:56 1966251 Link
Replying To mrsme: "dont get me wrong lads it was a great game but was it down to the ref applying the rules or not? it was actually fantastic but again was it because of the skill and commitment or down to the letter of the law being applied? and if its the latter is this the way all games club and inter county games should be ref,ed? my point being if its the latter then refereeing will be accepted in hurling and the rules can go out the window leading to more confusion for players, management and supporters" Yeah but did we not have a thread on here recently in which a ref said they apply and interpret the rules as they see it (using common sense!) not by the book? Which probably leads to interesting games aka hurling and mauls ala football. If you simply replay a GAA match (any match any code) and slowly note down the fouls, errors etc committed by ref you probably need to watch something more black and white. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 11/03/2017 21:44:11 1966252 Link
Great game. Don't see why Reid got man of the match tho. Some of his shot selections was very poor. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 11/03/2017 21:47:29 1966254 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Great game. Don't see why Reid got man of the match tho. Some of his shot selections was very poor." He was the better player if Tipp had not been so sloppy at the back Ronan or Paudi Maher was probably in with a shout. Reid in fairness along with Cillian Buckley and Richie Hogan dragged KK back into that match and drove on. They too especially Buckley or John McGrath could have been MOTM. It is what it is and we got a great Saturday night entertainment. What a rivalry every game gets better!! WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 11/03/2017 22:44:28 1966272 Link
Rugby my butt Football is my first love but people that was some stuff tonight in Semple Stadium Auldfella (Meath) - Posts: 472 - 12/03/2017 00:21:06 1966287 Link
Tipp should be kicking themselves for giving away not one but two stupid & unnecessary penalties. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 12/03/2017 02:23:48 1966293 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "He was the better player if Tipp had not been so sloppy at the back Ronan or Paudi Maher was probably in with a shout. Reid in fairness along with Cillian Buckley and Richie Hogan dragged KK back into that match and drove on. They too especially Buckley or John McGrath could have been MOTM. It is what it is and we got a great Saturday night entertainment. What a rivalry every game gets better!!" Buckley was head and shoulders above anyone else. Reid is a top class free taker but he isn't performing at the level he once was. His 3 goals admittedly were top class finishes. It may turn into a good result for Tipp as it might refocus them. Ryan didn't look one bit happy after it either tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 12/03/2017 07:29:22 1966300 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "He was the better player if Tipp had not been so sloppy at the back Ronan or Paudi Maher was probably in with a shout. Reid in fairness along with Cillian Buckley and Richie Hogan dragged KK back into that match and drove on. They too especially Buckley or John McGrath could have been MOTM. It is what it is and we got a great Saturday night entertainment. What a rivalry every game gets better!!" You say Tipp were sloppy at the back but are calling fir 2 defenders to be MOTM??? Puzzling eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1595 - 12/03/2017 09:11:06 1966307 Link
just in case we needed reminding what was the best game in the world....last night was an unreal game kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 12/03/2017 09:32:26 1966308 Link
Very exciting game last night ! Great finish too! Must have been a powerful game to watch live! From the armchair- it was excellent!. Nice to see both counties give their all for the win. A draw was a fair result but both sides guilty of some shocking wides. But they are all human! It makes a change to see penalties go in! Buckley was outstanding while Callanan is back and will get better. Great that the ref showed some tact and guile and was not blowing every small infringement. There was one passage late in the game where the ref wisely let it go a few times and it was just incredible - to see the battle between players from both sides fighting so hard for the ball and the passage lasted for ages. Incredible stuff. Hard to beat rivalry when it comes to the top teams in any sport and last night was no different. Great spectacle and great summer ahead hopefully! carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1820 - 12/03/2017 10:16:07 1966320 Link