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Number 1 dublin, 2 galway, 3tipp, 4 cork, 5 clare 6 Waterford 7 wexford 8 limerick 9Kerry 10 laois ,I done these in ,5,minutes so probably wrong, wats your opinions top ten Teddy5 (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 02/03/2017 12:57:18 1962777 Link
Which one promotes both games equally, which one has the highest percentage of clubs dedicated to both and which one encourages its players to play both openly? I think you can remove Dublin from number 1 based on the above 3 criteria Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 02/03/2017 13:15:35 1962782 Link
Would have Galway Top. Prov champions and top 3/4 in hurling. Having Waterford @ 6 is fairly pushing it. Saying that Limerick & Wexford have gone back a lot at the big ball in the last 4/5 year. Remains to be seen can Tipp & Clare keep the good run going with the Big Ball. Would Meath be considered a duel county now? Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 738 - 02/03/2017 13:45:47 1962800 Link
Replying To Brianmac78: "Which one promotes both games equally, which one has the highest percentage of clubs dedicated to both and which one encourages its players to play both openly? I think you can remove Dublin from number 1 based on the above 3 criteria" I'm not so sure. Almost all clubs in Dublin are duel, almost any kid sent to a GAA club in Dublin will play both codes and be encouraged to. Same in schools. The only area in Dublin that is light on hurling would be the North County which is the area with the least population. In Cork and Galway for example the county is far more divided by football and hurling areas. Can't comment on the other counties. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 02/03/2017 14:19:50 1962818 Link
Replying To Southsham: "Would have Galway Top. Prov champions and top 3/4 in hurling. Having Waterford @ 6 is fairly pushing it. Saying that Limerick & Wexford have gone back a lot at the big ball in the last 4/5 year. Remains to be seen can Tipp & Clare keep the good run going with the Big Ball. Would Meath be considered a duel county now?" Agrree bout Waterford, offaly number 11 Teddy5 (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 02/03/2017 14:26:33 1962823 Link
Agree with Brian Mac . The below must be the criteria. 1.Which one promotes both games equally? 2. which one has the highest percentage of clubs dedicated to both? 3. which one encourages its players to play both openly? 1. It may be very hard to get it 50% equally but in Cork it must be close. 2. In nominal terms we are definitely number 1. in terms of percentage (the fairer figure) we must be close to it but perhaps Tipperary or Limerick may be ahead. 3. This is club specific I would say. Larger clubs in Cork, Dublin, Belfast have an advantage in being able to provide senior hurling and football teams. Slaughtneil are a shining an example of what can be done in smaller areas. A gem of a club and the epitome of the GAA is all about. Every club in Ireland should take note. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 02/03/2017 14:40:43 1962828 Link
Replying To Brianmac78: "Which one promotes both games equally, which one has the highest percentage of clubs dedicated to both and which one encourages its players to play both openly? I think you can remove Dublin from number 1 based on the above 3 criteria" Remove Limerick as well nothing done for Limerick football cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 02/03/2017 15:06:33 1962845 Link
Replying To Southsham: "Would have Galway Top. Prov champions and top 3/4 in hurling. Having Waterford @ 6 is fairly pushing it. Saying that Limerick & Wexford have gone back a lot at the big ball in the last 4/5 year. Remains to be seen can Tipp & Clare keep the good run going with the Big Ball. Would Meath be considered a duel county now?" Dunno about galway being top, we did beat them in both tbf, based solely on last year we are the best dual county, changes year on year but on quality alone you can only really count tipp, Cork, galway and Dublin as dual counties in terms of quality....wexford offaly laois and the likes do play both but will threaten in neither tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 02/03/2017 15:09:12 1962847 Link
No one has included Cavan and we have multiple provincial and AI football honours and the same in handball with multiple world titles as well. No doubt the dual county elitists will ignore this. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12115 - 02/03/2017 15:21:49 1962854 Link
Ok what counties has the best chance of doing the double it has to be Dublin ?, Teddy5 (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 02/03/2017 15:26:42 1962857 Link
Cork, Dublin, Wexford, Laois, Offaly & Westmeath probably do more to encourage the dual ethos than any others. Maybe Carlow too? keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 02/03/2017 15:27:23 1962858 Link
Replying To Breffni39: "No one has included Cavan and we have multiple provincial and AI football honours and the same in handball with multiple world titles as well. No doubt the dual county elitists will ignore this." Ha! Fair play, we're all being too narrow in our interpretation of dual county! The Cork women probably have yous beat though! MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 02/03/2017 15:43:34 1962862 Link
Replying To Breffni39: "No one has included Cavan and we have multiple provincial and AI football honours and the same in handball with multiple world titles as well. No doubt the dual county elitists will ignore this." Kilkenny have a great tradition in handball too. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 03/03/2017 01:44:54 1963034 Link
Replying To Teddy5: "Ok what counties has the best chance of doing the double it has to be Dublin ?," No county will do a double any time soon. Galway and Cork are as likely as Dublin and Tipp won the hurling and actually got to the football semi final last year. If Tipp can sustain their progress in football and keep their panel together they are right up there, even though most of the County doesn't take it seriously. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 03/03/2017 10:05:51 1963072 Link
Tipp really need to keep on an upward curve if they are to become a genuine dual county. The footballers had a great year last year and it was only 2 years ago the u21's got to an All Ireland Final but with football playing second fiddle to hurling its important this group keep progressing to keep momentum going. I think they'll get promoted this year and apart from Dublin, Kerry, Mayo & Tyrone they'll really fancy their chances of beating the rest. Acheson is a huge loss but they've got some good players returning to the panel who weren't about last year and they've managed to avoid Kerry until the munster final. They certainly won't fear playing Cork in the munster semi final. At least in Cork & Galway hurling and football are both seen as equal. TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 03/03/2017 12:54:02 1963148 Link
Replying To tipp11: "Dunno about galway being top, we did beat them in both tbf, based solely on last year we are the best dual county, changes year on year but on quality alone you can only really count tipp, Cork, galway and Dublin as dual counties in terms of quality....wexford offaly laois and the likes do play both but will threaten in neither" Tipp are you serious? If you are going to be honest over the past 30 years Cork are really the only county you could say came near to being a successful duel county and Galway have threatened. After that there are no others. In more recent times Dublin to some degree had a few years where there was a flicker of hope. ColinWex (Wexford) - Posts: 901 - 03/03/2017 13:08:50 1963152 Link
Replying To keeper7: "Kilkenny have a great tradition in handball too." So does wexford ColinWex (Wexford) - Posts: 901 - 03/03/2017 13:12:53 1963155 Link
I still think dublin have the.best chance of doing the double, very hard and might never see it in my lifetime to do the double Teddy5 (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 03/03/2017 14:27:37 1963182 Link
Replying To ColinWex: "Tipp are you serious? If you are going to be honest over the past 30 years Cork are really the only county you could say came near to being a successful duel county and Galway have threatened. After that there are no others. In more recent times Dublin to some degree had a few years where there was a flicker of hope." Oh so we are basing this whole thing on best ever and not current best....that changes things so. tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 03/03/2017 14:28:36 1963183 Link
Replying To ColinWex: "Tipp are you serious? If you are going to be honest over the past 30 years Cork are really the only county you could say came near to being a successful duel county and Galway have threatened. After that there are no others. In more recent times Dublin to some degree had a few years where there was a flicker of hope." Galway more than threatened, were in both finals in 2001 winning the football. TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 03/03/2017 14:39:05 1963188 Link