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What exactly do people want?

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The endless stream of whinging for both players and posters on this forum has got me wondering what exactly do people want from the GAA's championship structure.

A fairly minor change like this Super 8 idea is being seen as a travesty despite the fact that it barely affects any teams, is part of shorter championship season and results in only 6 more matches than are currently paid.I'll say that again 6 more matches.


So please come up with a better solution or shut up.

Please note that the way sport works is that the best teams win and teams have to lose.So there will always be an elite and there will always be weaker counties.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 25/02/2017 16:54:24    1960525

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I did my sums wrong and it's actually 8 more matches.Which again is not very many and the season is ended earlier from next year so that's good for club players.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 25/02/2017 17:00:41    1960530

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I'm open to giving it a chance anyway.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/02/2017 17:46:59    1960548

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Yeah it's probably an improvement.

Ideally I'd have liked it not to get passed and for something better to be put forward with a bit more consultation between the GAA, GPA & CPA.

Still it's probably a good thing to get something in to liven things up a bit. We've 3 years of this format, after that time maybe something else can be put in place to continue the process.

I think they need to look at hurling now.

I'd say for a future football revision the priority should be on 2 things.

More summer football for teams outside the elite.
Look to further address fairness problems caused by provincial imbalances.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 25/02/2017 18:22:05    1960563

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This is a stepping stone in the right direction, the groups complaining need to realise that.But everyone knows that it is impossible to get radical change through GAA congress.The only way is for it to be drip fed.This is the starting of that process and I suspect it will eventually lead to something even better.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 25/02/2017 18:27:38    1960565

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "The endless stream of whinging for both players and posters on this forum has got me wondering what exactly do people want from the GAA's championship structure.

A fairly minor change like this Super 8 idea is being seen as a travesty despite the fact that it barely affects any teams, is part of shorter championship season and results in only 6 more matches than are currently paid.I'll say that again 6 more matches.


So please come up with a better solution or shut up.

Please note that the way sport works is that the best teams win and teams have to lose.So there will always be an elite and there will always be weaker counties."
Why shouldpeople shut up if opposed to this? And nonsense to suggest coming up with something different just because people feel this is a joke. A root and branch restructuring is required not this sticky plaster unimaginative tripe.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 25/02/2017 19:05:33    1960578

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The GAA moves slowly.

Step 1: Football quarter-finals replaced by 2 groups of 4.
Possible step 2: Hurling introduces 2 groups of 4 as well.
Possible step 3: 2 provincial hurling championships and qualifiers feeding into 2 groups of 4 prompts the football championship to have it's 4 provincial championships and qualifiers feed into 4 groups of 4.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7821 - 25/02/2017 19:24:27    1960582

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Replying To arock:  "
Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "The endless stream of whinging for both players and posters on this forum has got me wondering what exactly do people want from the GAA's championship structure.

A fairly minor change like this Super 8 idea is being seen as a travesty despite the fact that it barely affects any teams, is part of shorter championship season and results in only 6 more matches than are currently paid.I'll say that again 6 more matches.


So please come up with a better solution or shut up.

Please note that the way sport works is that the best teams win and teams have to lose.So there will always be an elite and there will always be weaker counties."
Why shouldpeople shut up if opposed to this? And nonsense to suggest coming up with something different just because people feel this is a joke. A root and branch restructuring is required not this sticky plaster unimaginative tripe."
This is a step forward in the process of changing everything.

Do you not understand how the GAA works? You can barely get any changes through so you have to take it in steps and I suspect that is what this is.

You are not going to get a massive change through congress it is not going to happen and Padraic Duffy knows this, that's why this format was proposed.

This whole country seems to thrive on the idea of complaining about something and yet not proposing a better solution.If you were to work in a business and complain all the time about processes and yet not come up with a better way of doing this you wouldn't be listened to.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 25/02/2017 20:16:16    1960599

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One minute we want more competitive matches, next minute we're not being fair to the weaker teams...

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/02/2017 21:14:58    1960657

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I would keep the present format but start advertising the GAA especially Gaelic football on TV and Radio.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 25/02/2017 21:17:59    1960661

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Replying To galwayford:  "I would keep the present format but start advertising the GAA especially Gaelic football on TV and Radio."
Gaa is actually advertised quite a lot on TV/radio. How is it not? What add would you be putting in that aren't already done?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 25/02/2017 21:57:31    1960688

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Equity for clubs & club players.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 25/02/2017 22:45:29    1960717

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Well, the part of the championship that was interesting was from the quarter finals onward. The part that was utter tripe were three useless provincial championships (Ulster aside).

You would think that one would fix the problem but no, they keep the provincial championships and tamper with the good bits.

I agree though, people should stop complaining. Don't go to the games. Attendances are falling. Participation is dropping. There are other sports. Get involved in those.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 25/02/2017 23:16:27    1960726

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Gaa is actually advertised quite a lot on TV/radio. How is it not? What add would you be putting in that aren't already done?"
I'd love to see proper press nights introduced for league and championship. PROs doing periscope or fb live feeds from press conferences would be a step in the right direction.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 26/02/2017 00:00:54    1960737

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "The endless stream of whinging for both players and posters on this forum has got me wondering what exactly do people want from the GAA's championship structure.

A fairly minor change like this Super 8 idea is being seen as a travesty despite the fact that it barely affects any teams, is part of shorter championship season and results in only 6 more matches than are currently paid.I'll say that again 6 more matches.


So please come up with a better solution or shut up.

Please note that the way sport works is that the best teams win and teams have to lose.So there will always be an elite and there will always be weaker counties."
North Korea would be very proud of your contribution.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 26/02/2017 02:25:47    1960764

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I think the most pathetic and shameful part of the current 'debate' is the head in the sand and total in denial mindset of most of the GAA hierarchy and Southern media. They just can't and won't accept that Dublin domination is killing the Association.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 26/02/2017 02:45:18    1960767

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "This is a stepping stone in the right direction, the groups complaining need to realise that.But everyone knows that it is impossible to get radical change through GAA congress.The only way is for it to be drip fed.This is the starting of that process and I suspect it will eventually lead to something even better."
Its not a stepping stone in the right direction.I think people are missing the point.Take a club Donegal,Mayo etc. with say 2 players on the County team and 2 players playing minor.The club might not see these players now from May till August.How can smaller clubs survive.
I spoke to a parent of a county minor and he said his son was training 4 days a week,would they not be better of going to play the odd club league game rather than training.
Fair enough they are freeing up September for club games,but what about the rest of the summer have the club players been thought about here,simple answer is no.
Its alright if your only interest in the GAA is following County teams or watching game on tv,but there are alot of club players being left out in the cold and the issie is not being properly addressed.

ifindoubt (Donegal) - Posts: 133 - 26/02/2017 08:34:04    1960790

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Replying To ifindoubt:  "Its not a stepping stone in the right direction.I think people are missing the point.Take a club Donegal,Mayo etc. with say 2 players on the County team and 2 players playing minor.The club might not see these players now from May till August.How can smaller clubs survive.
I spoke to a parent of a county minor and he said his son was training 4 days a week,would they not be better of going to play the odd club league game rather than training.
Fair enough they are freeing up September for club games,but what about the rest of the summer have the club players been thought about here,simple answer is no.
Its alright if your only interest in the GAA is following County teams or watching game on tv,but there are alot of club players being left out in the cold and the issie is not being properly addressed."
So they free up an extra month for club games yet they are still doing wrong? Why not get rid of the county game.
Regards the training instead of league games for the club, congress can do nothing about that.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 26/02/2017 10:30:58    1960826

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Replying To gotmilk:  "So they free up an extra month for club games yet they are still doing wrong? Why not get rid of the county game.
Regards the training instead of league games for the club, congress can do nothing about that."
This isn't going to make things any worse and might actually make things better. County boards need to ensure players are available for a certain amount of clubs games and equally clubs must be prepared to play games without them. On the minors, surely they have to be available for club league?

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 26/02/2017 10:56:21    1960851

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Replying To ifindoubt:  "Its not a stepping stone in the right direction.I think people are missing the point.Take a club Donegal,Mayo etc. with say 2 players on the County team and 2 players playing minor.The club might not see these players now from May till August.How can smaller clubs survive.
I spoke to a parent of a county minor and he said his son was training 4 days a week,would they not be better of going to play the odd club league game rather than training.
Fair enough they are freeing up September for club games,but what about the rest of the summer have the club players been thought about here,simple answer is no.
Its alright if your only interest in the GAA is following County teams or watching game on tv,but there are alot of club players being left out in the cold and the issie is not being properly addressed."
Club league should be payed throughout the summer if county teams are playing.The county boards really need to cop on to this and realise the league is to provide matches for players and they should start the club league later play it throughout the summer to provide club players with matches and then county championship can be played when the intercounty season is over.

It is basic common sense to do this so it shouldn't be much of a problem for any county board with even a slight degree of competency.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 26/02/2017 11:03:16    1960859

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