National - GAA and ethnic minorities

Replying To tonydoranfan:  "Most clubs have foreign nationals in their underage teams but from my experience with coaching this only lasts from u8 to maybe u14 for the majority..
When they go to secondary school the lack of international possibility kicks in and they continue with soccer and athletics is a big draw !!!! There is very little support from at home for these kids for gaelic games and that is fact!!!!!"
Maybe so but that's the same problem with Hurling in Longford and Sligo (for kids with Irish parents as well.) No interest at home , and as you will know there's only so much coaching you can do , they have to be tipping away at home to improve.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts:595 - 03/01/2017 21:59:25   1942906

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Replying To lilywhite1:  "Excellent reply alano12. Where will it all stop? So should we just go down the PC road and be cowered by what others think of us and act accordingly or do we stand up say this is our GAA culture. Yes, join us if you want and if you don't we won't lose any sleep over it. The GAA has never been Political with a Capital P, yet as alano has pointed out there are those with agendas trying to politicise the GAA and unfortunately there are those within the GAA who are to cowardly to withstand this. If we don't stand for what we believe in then we stand for nothong at all."
What are you saying you believe in, then?

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1652 - 04/01/2017 10:00:07   1942973

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Replying To riverboys:  "This debate could turn sour very quickly if people aren't careful what they say, if you are talking about ethnic minorities we already have them playing our games, they are called the real Irish which are mostly living in the west, Connaught, the rest I'm afraid are throw back English, remember the story of the plantations of Ulster, the Norman and Viking invasions of the east, Cromwell to hell or to Connaught, then again the Spanish and Portuguese invaded Munster and Connaught, ok yea come to think of it we have no real Irish, the biggest worry for most GAA supporters is when the eastern Europeans eventually play our games and the job teams will have with a 5 ft 10 Irish lad at full back while a 7 ft Polish origin lad at full forward, the full back hasn't a chance, I wonder if we have a few of those lads in Mayo that might play at midfield, at the end of the day I don't care where players are from as long as they play and enjoy our games, the more the merrier"
C'mon Riverboys there's no such thing as the REAL Irish or REAL anyone. We're all African on tour :)

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1652 - 04/01/2017 10:01:47   1942974

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there seems to be a real problem with setting up new GAA clubs. Yet other sports sprout up like mushrooms it seems.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts:861 - 04/01/2017 10:30:41   1942983

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "Yes that is true..but my point is that there is a lot of children in this country up for grabs that have irish parents!!!!!! Let's stop the pc and promote our games properly to all and that includes our own..
You don't have to go North to find that protestants are not interested in our games or that their children are not up for grabs..
What about promoting hurling to the kids of your own county of mayo??!!@@"
How do you know what kind of sports kids want to play if you've decided already that they probably won't be interested in certain sports?

How many 15 year old non-nationals have said to you that they're gonna pack in GAA because they want to try another sport with international prospects?

We have hurlers here. Maybe not as good as Wexford but Rackard Cup winners. In the past we've had Pakistani hurlers. So we're grand for the hurling thanks !

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3196 - 04/01/2017 10:34:55   1942984

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "Yes that is true..but my point is that there is a lot of children in this country up for grabs that have irish parents!!!!!! Let's stop the pc and promote our games properly to all and that includes our own..
You don't have to go North to find that protestants are not interested in our games or that their children are not up for grabs..
What about promoting hurling to the kids of your own county of mayo??!!@@"
So is the gist of your posts that we shouldn't actively promote the GAA within newcomer communities because there are still some Irish (as in Irish parents) who haven't gotten into GAA yet.

Why do you prize Irish people who aren't into GAA higher than other people?

It makes no sense.

How about we promote the GAA to every one and welcome anyone who wants to join a club regardless of background.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts:10424 - 04/01/2017 11:30:20   1943001

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "Yes that is true..but my point is that there is a lot of children in this country up for grabs that have irish parents!!!!!! Let's stop the pc and promote our games properly to all and that includes our own..
You don't have to go North to find that protestants are not interested in our games or that their children are not up for grabs..
What about promoting hurling to the kids of your own county of mayo??!!@@"
I honestly don't think we're all that far apart in what we're saying. Attracting non-Irish kids and Irish kids with no background of Gaelic games can be done through the same medium: getting coaches into schools and making it fun for kids to play. It's not an either/or scenario.

As regards Mayo, they've actually done quite a bit to promote hurling, getting to several All-Ireland hurling finals at underage ( b and c grades) over the last decade, winning the Rackard Cup last year, getting to a Christy Ring final at one stage ( think it was 2004 or 2005).

Of course, they are still light years off the top tier counties but for an area with no tradition of hurling, they're doing ok, and certainly are making a much better effort to promote the game than several football counties. Problems still exist (there are only five senior clubs) but Rome was hardly built in a day.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts:1064 - 04/01/2017 12:55:11   1943018

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Joey Cunningham played with Armagh in the early 1980's

gunman (Donegal) - Posts:87 - 04/01/2017 19:34:07   1943109

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A couple of years ago , I went to a Gort V Ardrahan in the senior championship down in Galway. There was a dozen guys in front of me speaking Portuguese ranging from 13 to 20. It was of the most wonderful and proudest moments I have witnessed during my time in the GAA as it reflected integration at grassroots level and not just tokenism which we often see,

downtheroad (Laois) - Posts:14 - 05/01/2017 23:40:36   1943384

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