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The championship proposal is actually a great idea which I completely agree with , just think that there will be another 8 major matches that won't just be in crime park each team gets a match at home , away and in croke park which is a brilliant choice for example I am a Derry man as you all know Derry get into the group stages easily if they wanted and I have 3 big matches I can look forward to more that I would go to all of them and I am a neutral aswell , if Derry get knocked I continue watching and going go all matches and have those group stages I would really look forward too . It will bring up attendance at all matches and bring more of a excitement to the matches . I like the idea of both finals being played for the same in the same weekend. If I was the GAA I would start it all sorted out by all counties in November and start it up for 2017 straight away oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 19/10/2016 17:07:47 1927648 Link 0 |
Gaa are living in a dreamworld. Is it any wonder many clubs can't field a team. sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 19/10/2016 17:44:14 1927659 Link 0 |
There are more cons than pros to the new system. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4211 - 19/10/2016 18:38:52 1927677 Link 1 |
Another slap in the face of every club player. Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 19/10/2016 18:53:37 1927680 Link 0 |
See the order of games is: Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 749 - 19/10/2016 19:19:11 1927689 Link 0 |
I can't see it passing. Too many cons. Club player will lose out again and there will be a lot of dead rubber games when you want knock out games at that time of year. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 19/10/2016 20:01:08 1927697 Link 0 |
Designed entirely with Sky Sports in mind. Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1057 - 19/10/2016 20:02:13 1927698 Link 0 |
How could anybody that enjoys football be against these proposals. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 19/10/2016 20:46:55 1927709 Link 0 |
Joke of a proposal. Absolutely sickening that they could come out with this once but to "refine" it and throw it out again puts the tin hat on it for me. No consideration whatsoever for weaker counties. This gets the likes of Carlow out of the way even earlier in the summer than normal. In fact, with this proposal we'd be lucky to even get a single game of senior hurling or football in any summer month. They clearly haven't listened to any of the players in weaker counties who are crying out for games in summer months when pitches are dry and weather makes playing (and attending) a pleasure. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 19/10/2016 21:05:41 1927713 Link 0 |
Proper change is needed so that the game doesn't continue to die in the weaker counties. Guys training themselves into the ground for 2 proper games is a joke.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4211 - 19/10/2016 21:16:41 1927718 Link 0 |
are you being sarcastic? or do you really believe these proposals will help any of the counties not included in the supposed top 5/6 contenders each year and just shows the contempt the gaa/gpa hold for the ordinary club player or fan who put as much into the game as these so called elite players.
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 19/10/2016 22:46:13 1927750 Link 0 |
These proposals are shameful and an insult to intelligence. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 19/10/2016 23:00:46 1927752 Link 0 |
I would rather do nothing than adopt this change. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2573 - 20/10/2016 03:48:37 1927764 Link 0 |
The proposal has not addressed the imbalance in the championship. I like the idea of the round robin but it's likely that some of the provincial champions could have have played 2 games to get there while others may have played 4 or 5. unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 20/10/2016 09:51:33 1927779 Link 0 |
Personally I love this idea, I would help to so called white elephant be used more, imagine the likes of Cork vs Dublin or Cork vs Tyrone in Pairc Ui Chaoimh, I would be all in favour of seeing that, rebelfan (Cork) - Posts: 70 - 20/10/2016 10:51:02 1927800 Link 0 |
I think they put the 2 provincial winners against each other in the first game so as to lessen the chance of dead rubbers. That's the theory anyway.
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 20/10/2016 11:20:39 1927807 Link 0 |
what's the bets tha tSKY get all the "group stage" games. This is what SKy likes. make a kind of super-league. there will then be a breakaway group of top 8 or top 12 teams that will go professional. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 20/10/2016 11:28:34 1927815 Link 0 |
I think you'll like this one 3 regional leagues Ulster plus London Leinster 11 Munster/Connacht League fixtures are seeded based on previous season so in the last week for example we have 1v2,3v4,5v6 etc 8 teams from each reach playoffs Teams are placed in one of 4 seeded pots A 4 teams 2 Munster/Connacht 1 each from other 2 leagues B 8 teams remaining teams finishing top 4 in league C 4 teams 5th placed teams and 6th from Munster/Connacht D 8 remaining teams Teams in A and B are in the top stream and can lose in the first 2 weeks and stay in, teams in C and D are out with a loss A seeds get a bye first week, C seeds get a bye also 4 teams are eliminated in each of the first 5 weeks to get down to semifinals Week 3 we're left with 16 games in one stream. The teams coming through the bottom stream play the losing B seeds from week 1. Week 2 losers join in week 4 at the last 12. Week 5 is a straight forward quarter final with the winners from week 2 of the top stream joining. A seeds need to win 4 games for the AI B seeds 5 C seeds 6 D seeds 7 Keeps regular season league games meaningful but still has plenty of teams getting knockout championship football, with games in the summer vs teams around each others level. In the first 2 weeks the draws get made to keep teams from the same region apart. Teams coming from easier regions will have tougher playoff matches. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4211 - 20/10/2016 11:55:59 1927825 Link 0 |
A lot of the negatives from the new proposal surround the weaker counties. I do agree that we need to try our best to help the weaker counties get to a level where they are able to compete better. Let us leave aside the financial help that could be given for the moment (that is in another day's work). How do we get a fixtures schedule/format that can help the weaker counties that does not include a second tier championship? We could go for a champions league style groups from the start of the championship but then we could end up with fixtures such as Dublin v Waterford (sorry Waterford). But surely that wont help the weaker counties either, getting a hammering. I find it difficult to see a format that can help but would be interested to know what people think. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 20/10/2016 12:07:45 1927831 Link 1 |
Why are some counties weak and others strong. 1 Tradition- Tyrone and Donegal have no great tradition but have climbed the ladder and hopefully will continue to build a tradition 2.There will always be periods when you have a better crop of players but if you have the right systems and coaching in place you will always be reasonably competitive. 3- Tipperary and Fermanagh have proved weaker counties can break into the top 8. 4.-Population Monaghan have shown that a small population is no barrier to success. 5.Other Sports.Donegal was always regarded as being a soccer county but we still have made good progress in recent years,especially in club areas that were almost exclusively Soccer. I guess what I am trying to say is that improvement in weaker counties has come from within regardless of what type of championship we have.A 2 tier championship might help but for some reason the weaker counties seem to be against that.Afte rall club Champioships have 3 Tiers.There are plenty of examples of clubs moving through the ranks to the top.Glenswilly were only formed in 1982 and now they have 3 Seniot titles. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 20/10/2016 12:10:24 1927833 Link 0 |