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The upcoming redevelopment in Cork will cost €70 Million (That's just the projected cost, it could be higher when all is said and done) jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 14/10/2016 15:07:15 1926271 Link 1 |
Well I'd say 2 things to that: JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 14/10/2016 16:21:48 1926305 Link 2 |
Anyone who has ever been to Pairc Ui Chaoimh would agree that it was badly needed in a redevelopment, like most Stadiums its not just Inter-county teams that play there, it is also used for major club matches in the county as well, so i dont see it being a white elephant rebelfan (Cork) - Posts: 70 - 14/10/2016 16:32:05 1926308 Link 3 |
its grand if they plan on actually using the stadiums but with the competition structure the way it is at minute they are a complete waste of money
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 14/10/2016 17:03:02 1926315 Link 1 |
Croke Park cost €260 million to redevelop (and millions a year to upkeep) and is only full for at most 3 games a year, is that a white elephant also? HurlingWarrior (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 14/10/2016 17:48:09 1926320 Link 3 |
Rebelfan I'd say the only time jimbo saw Pairc ui chaoimh was on telly or on google maps. This thread is just to take the heat off the Dublin financial doping thread. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 14/10/2016 18:34:16 1926328 Link 1 |
gaelic ground since being redeveloped only (i think) 3 times - 2008 and 2013 musnter finals and 2014 football semi - next times its filled could be a rugby world cup game.... still though its a fine stadium janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 14/10/2016 18:34:53 1926329 Link 0 |
Bit of a silly comparison. Croke Park probably sells out on average 6 or 7 times a year when you include concerts and when it hosted soccer and rugby matches. Even then Croke Park is unique since it's the only large venue in the country, so it only needs to attract over 50'00 to prove its worth. PUC on the other hand will be in no way unique. It will join the 3 other 40'000 seater stadia in Munster alone that could host the matches it's going for. CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1639 - 14/10/2016 18:39:14 1926330 Link 4 |
At some point in the not too distant future the championship structures will change and we will see more games and whilst these grounds might not be always full they will be in more frequent use. We are in an age where we deserve decent facilities which a lot of our county grounds can not provide. I can see ground capacities being reduced with seating replacing some terraced areas and more covered accommodation being provided. Semple Stadium, Gaelic Grounds and FitzGerald Stadium are all grounds that have huge areas of terracing that would be better served if converted to seating and covered, I'm certainly not advocating all seater stadia as I'm predominantly a terrace man myself but we need more seated and covered accommodation in all our grounds. PUC had always been a major stadium which originally held 50'000 but had become dangerously outdated, as the second city of this part of the land Cork deserves a decent stadium and whilst I think a 40'000 capacity would have sufficed its set at 45'000 and little we can do now. I can see PUC having other activities other than Gaelic Games and am confident it will be a viable investment. As for other grounds here's a wish list of works Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 14/10/2016 19:28:03 1926337 Link 1 |
Will a club side not be playing games on it all year? Cork championship games etc? The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2087 - 14/10/2016 20:08:46 1926345 Link 0 |
County centres of excellence - lying in debt and half-built. It is like everything in Ireland, money is literally thrown at capitol projects, without any thought given how they are to be utilised and financed. Yet clubs are falling apart for want of infrastructure, for maintaining the flow of young kids into the games, county teams draining county boards budgets dry. At least some counties manage their prioritise and live within their means but so many counties have lost the run of themselves.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4892 - 14/10/2016 20:25:47 1926348 Link 2 |
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/brendan-obrien/gaas-stadium-building-boom-illogical-and-irresponsible-372204.html jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 14/10/2016 21:26:22 1926361 Link 1 |
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/gaelic-grounds-now-a-burden-warns-limerick-secretary-mike-oriordan-370981.html jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 14/10/2016 21:27:46 1926362 Link 1 |
Some very interesting articles on the topic jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 14/10/2016 21:47:13 1926365 Link 2 |
My oh my, the second time in a few weeks I am agreeing with jimbothedub, I must be losing it. But in fairness to James he is spot on, capital projects eating up millions should be pumped into games & coaching in the club scene. It is beyond comprehension what is happening down in Cork, but we all know the power they hold at the upper levels. Hard to fathom & impossible to justify. Vanity projects for guys to say it was done on their watch.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 14/10/2016 21:52:15 1926368 Link 2 |
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/0225/682644-croke-park-bail-out-will-save-mayo-gaa-200k/ jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 14/10/2016 22:01:01 1926370 Link 2 |
Smaller grounds that are full have better atmosphere valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 14/10/2016 22:34:44 1926379 Link 0 |
What was the other thing you agreed with? ;)
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 14/10/2016 23:39:18 1926387 Link 0 |
Do you see €40,000,000 tax payer/GAA investment as justifiable considering the struggles of many clubs around the country at present? Would this money not be better spent on grass root GAA people, such a colossal amount of funding could make a great impact. I just can't see the justification and I'd strongly question the granting of such a vast figure on a project that very few GAA people will benefit from, especially considering the benefits that are without doubt being squandered on yet another CB vanity project jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 15/10/2016 00:06:06 1926390 Link 1 |
Will the GAA have to step in like they had to in Mayo? McHale Park just like the Gaelic Grounds in Limerick is proving to be a huge drain on vital funds after it was revamped jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 15/10/2016 08:29:09 1926406 Link 1 |