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Fenton a shoe in in my book. I'd have Cooper in instead of Kilkenny. Had a savage year. Made sure the talk of the full back line being the weak line was pure horseshe. Was having great final until black card, which probably robbed him of the nomination and possibly POTY. Superglue (Kerry)** - Posts: 1283 - 07/10/2016 10:41:10 1923640 Link
Replying To Superglue: "Fenton a shoe in in my book. I'd have Cooper in instead of Kilkenny. Had a savage year. Made sure the talk of the full back line being the weak line was pure horseshe. Was having great final until black card, which probably robbed him of the nomination and possibly POTY." Agree 100% superglue. Keegan would not have made my list tho, would have had Colm Boyle Liamwalkinstown (Dublin)** - Posts: 8166 - 07/10/2016 11:05:52 1923651 Link
Personally I don't even think its up for discussion, Well done Brian Fenton on winning 2016 POTY :) waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 07/10/2016 11:09:37 1923653 Link
How is poty choose? I know players vote for it but which players? All county players or just a few? nextyear (Mayo) - Posts: 60 - 07/10/2016 22:16:27 1923946 Link
If it's the players who choose the nominees then surely these guys are worthy candidates. For me it would be Kilkenny . Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 08/10/2016 09:41:28 1923992 Link
Replying To Superglue: "Fenton a shoe in in my book. I'd have Cooper in instead of Kilkenny. Had a savage year. Made sure the talk of the full back line being the weak line was pure horseshe. Was having great final until black card, which probably robbed him of the nomination and possibly POTY." Spot on Superglue. If Cooper had played the full Final replay it would have been very close between him and Fenton. But as it stands Fenton is a cert in my book. Cooper had a more impressive year than Kilkenny in my opinion so hopefully he will at least get rewarded for that with an All Star. Thought Philly had an excellent year also in that much so called weak Dublin Full Back Line. And a word too for young Small. He had some boots to fill, replacing the absent McCaffrey all year but Small rose to the challenge and had an excellent season. Fionn (Dublin)** - Posts: 3725 - 08/10/2016 11:59:38 1924016 Link
Replying To nextyear: "How is poty choose? I know players vote for it but which players? All county players or just a few?" All GPA members I think? roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 08/10/2016 13:58:21 1924041 Link
Probably will go to Fenton since Dublin won the All Ireland but, for me, Keegan was easily the most outstanding and influential player this year. In every game he was tasked with nullifying the oppositions most dangerous player, which he did admirably, and also to drive this Mayo team forward, which he also did. I have no doubt that if he had not been black carded (incorrectly I might add) he would have driven Mayo to the title. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 08/10/2016 15:43:06 1924054 Link
Look lads this won't go down well but I have to be honest I don't get the hype over Fenton. Now do I think he's a great player but he's awfully quiet for Player of the year, I mean he's not faultless and he's relatively quiet on the scoreboard. How would you lads call him so far ahead of the likes of a Tom Parsons for example? I get that he's never lost a championship match but when I see his list of achievements to me they're not his they're the teams and he happens to be playing at a great time to play for Dublin...maybe the best ever time. Not at all saying any of this to be an A hole by the way I'd just like to know what you all like about him so much Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 08/10/2016 16:06:12 1924060 Link
Replying To Seansy48: "Look lads this won't go down well but I have to be honest I don't get the hype over Fenton. Now do I think he's a great player but he's awfully quiet for Player of the year, I mean he's not faultless and he's relatively quiet on the scoreboard. How would you lads call him so far ahead of the likes of a Tom Parsons for example? I get that he's never lost a championship match but when I see his list of achievements to me they're not his they're the teams and he happens to be playing at a great time to play for Dublin...maybe the best ever time. Not at all saying any of this to be an A hole by the way I'd just like to know what you all like about him so much" I kind of agree with you, Fenton is a steady but unspectacular player, who had a very consistent year. I think Dublin's best player this year has been Johnny Cooper, not sure why he isn't on the shortlist. Of the 3 players on the shortlist I'd go for Lee Keegan. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 08/10/2016 16:49:58 1924069 Link
Replying To Green_Gold: "I kind of agree with you, Fenton is a steady but unspectacular player, who had a very consistent year. I think Dublin's best player this year has been Johnny Cooper, not sure why he isn't on the shortlist. Of the 3 players on the shortlist I'd go for Lee Keegan." Darragh O Se was never footballer of the year in fact the only other Midfielder to win it is MDMA and I just couldn't believe some of the stuff MDMA was doing that year. Talk about putting your nose where lads wouldn't put a shovel, as well as going forward at great pace. I was all for giving it too Kilkenny after his performance in the semi, he was like the conductor of the orchestra but he couldn't seem to get out of his own way across the 2 finals...always had the ability to stretch the pitch and switch things up but going forward he wasn't the same! I hate to say it but you can't really look past Keegan, marked Cavanagh clean out of the match...barely touched leather, same for Connolly in both finals until his black card Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 08/10/2016 17:03:50 1924072 Link
Replying To Seansy48: "Look lads this won't go down well but I have to be honest I don't get the hype over Fenton. Now do I think he's a great player but he's awfully quiet for Player of the year, I mean he's not faultless and he's relatively quiet on the scoreboard. How would you lads call him so far ahead of the likes of a Tom Parsons for example? I get that he's never lost a championship match but when I see his list of achievements to me they're not his they're the teams and he happens to be playing at a great time to play for Dublin...maybe the best ever time. Not at all saying any of this to be an A hole by the way I'd just like to know what you all like about him so much" Don't agree at all. His job isn't to be on the scoreboard. His job is in midfield where nobody has lived with him now for 2 seasons. He absolutely cleaned Kerry out of it in the semi-final and was very good the rest of the game. First All Ireland final he was by far Dublin's best player. His run created the first goal. He doesn't do the Diarmuid Connolly spectacular stuff but you know what that's actually not what wins matches. It's doing the simple things consistently better than your opponents. Making the right decisions. His decision making is just top notch. He's a fantastic player. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 08/10/2016 17:09:20 1924073 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "Don't agree at all. His job isn't to be on the scoreboard. His job is in midfield where nobody has lived with him now for 2 seasons. He absolutely cleaned Kerry out of it in the semi-final and was very good the rest of the game. First All Ireland final he was by far Dublin's best player. His run created the first goal. He doesn't do the Diarmuid Connolly spectacular stuff but you know what that's actually not what wins matches. It's doing the simple things consistently better than your opponents. Making the right decisions. His decision making is just top notch. He's a fantastic player." My whole idea is that Footballer of the year never seems to go to the steady consistent performer but to the spectacular for example Peter Canavan was top scorer in 03 but Stevie McDonnell was football of the year. On the goal yes it's a great run but it's really all about the pass MDMA gives over the top of 2 defenders, they instantly find themselves in no mans land to Fenton it's a simple 1-2 the difficulty is in the pass and no harm but if the Gooch had given that pass there's no way the credit would have gone to Fenton. Sure it happened again during the match, In both cases they're good lines but the Mayo men flock to the ball on both occasions...in an era of defensive discipline is that more on the player going forward or the defender missing his assignment. Anyway i'm happy enough for Fenton to win it, I just feel other players are also deserving. Cian O Sullivan for example also had a great year, he's the perfect example of consistency and getting the job and yet he's never talked about like Fenton...he marks his man like glue at times Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 08/10/2016 17:46:23 1924079 Link
Keegan deserves it. Fenton will win it. Can't for the life of me see the big deal with Kilkenny. He is a water carrier (as Eric Cantona would say). When did handpassing the ball over and back make you the best footballer in the country? He rarely kicks the ball, doesn't score and rarely sets up a score. Handpassing and pointing at lads should win player of the year. He is lucky to be mentioned for an all star. Evan Comerford (Tipperary), Stephen Cluxton (Dublin), David Clarke (Mayo), Jonny Cooper (Dublin), Brendan Harrison (Mayo), Cian O'Sullivan (Dublin), Lee Keegan (Mayo), Colm Boyle (Mayo), Philly McMahon (Dublin) Patrick Durcan (Mayo), James McCarthy (Dublin), Kevin McLoughlin (Mayo), Gary Brennan. (Clare), Peter Acheson (Tipperary), Matthew Donnelly (Tyrone), Diarmuid Connolly (Dublin), Dean Rock (Dublin), Kevin McManamon (Dublin), Paul Geaney (Kerry), Michael Quinlivan (Tipperary), Andy Moran (Mayo), Conor Sweeney (Tipperary), Diarmuid O'Connor (Mayo), Peter Harte (Tyrone), Josh Keane (Tipperary) and Jimmy Feehan (Tipperary) all had better seasons. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1105 - 10/10/2016 18:28:14 1924642 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Spot on Superglue. If Cooper had played the full Final replay it would have been very close between him and Fenton. But as it stands Fenton is a cert in my book. Cooper had a more impressive year than Kilkenny in my opinion so hopefully he will at least get rewarded for that with an All Star. Thought Philly had an excellent year also in that much so called weak Dublin Full Back Line. And a word too for young Small. He had some boots to fill, replacing the absent McCaffrey all year but Small rose to the challenge and had an excellent season." I think Cooper was exceptional all year. He was every bit as good as O'Carroll at his best. Cian O'Sullivan was quietly brilliant too. Kilkenny was better for me in 2012 age 19. In that year's quarter final against Laois he kicked 4 pts from play and he was scoring freely in all his games. I don't see how he stands out from other Dublin players in pundit's eyes. Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 10/10/2016 23:45:50 1924730 Link
keegan for me alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/10/2016 01:35:54 1924740 Link
I actually agree with some of the sentiments about Kilkenny to be honest. Modest scoring return, not playing keys balls into his forwards as far as i can see. People see stats like how many possessions he had in a game and think wow look at how many times he's on the ball without actually looking at what he done with those possessions. Passing the ball backwards and sideways taking one-twos at midfield without actually going anywhere. And this is for a Dublin team when they are at their brilliant best when attacking with pace and at speed and he's passing it around his own 45 racking up possessions. I imagine the amount of possessions for example that Mc Menaman would have would be a fraction of that of Kilkenny yet his return and impact on the game far better. Its funny because its not as if Kilkenny isnt capable, he was a free scoring phenomenon underage and through the early stages of his career. I would have had both Johnny Cooper or Philly Mc Mahon i there ahead of Kilkenny to be honest, both ahve been outstanding this year, all year. Fenton will win it in my opinion, he has been the outstanding midfielder all year. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1328 - 11/10/2016 09:18:25 1924762 Link
Keegan had two great games but that's not enough to win FOTY for me Johnny Cooper seems to be the least talked about and yet he slotted in for Rory O'Carroll seamlessly He had a great year from league till the All Ireland final keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 11/10/2016 09:22:23 1924765 Link
Replying To keithlemon: "Keegan had two great games but that's not enough to win FOTY for me Johnny Cooper seems to be the least talked about and yet he slotted in for Rory O'Carroll seamlessly He had a great year from league till the All Ireland final" he has had more than 1 good game maybe that's all you seen of him 3 pints is all that he has conceded in 7 games that's a good return from a back marking some of the best in the game mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 240 - 11/10/2016 09:46:23 1924774 Link
Replying To mayo_123: "he has had more than 1 good game maybe that's all you seen of him 3 pints is all that he has conceded in 7 games that's a good return from a back marking some of the best in the game" No, I saw a lot of Keegan I just don't think he was as good over the whole season. I thought he was exceptional against Tyrone and Dublin the first day, he looked like he was going to have another cracker in the second game but the black card took that away from him unfortunately. I didn't think he had particularly impressive games against Tipp, Kildare, Galway and Fermanagh. Mayo's most consistent performer in defence this season for me was Colm Boyle. keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 11/10/2016 10:34:36 1924796 Link