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So how dare Mayo or any other fans stand on hill16. And to think other counties didn't give Dublin tickets as well. I'd like to ask that guy who wants to boycott the National League, if a true GAA fan does he from allow his club around the county for league and championship. That's a true GAA fan.
Also the fact is always lost on some Dublin fans not all BTW the unreal expense a match in Dublin costs. If your fro. West Kerry, west Mayo or North Donegal it is a 6.30 am start getting to a match.

Murph (Kerry) - Posts: 45 - 21/09/2016 07:16:28    1917257

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Id ignore or block those pages Murph - hill 16 army, all Dublin fans (richie) even mayo gaa banter page....all run by complete and utter fools who have no respect for the ethos of the gaa.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 21/09/2016 08:54:50    1917276

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Replying To Murph:  "So how dare Mayo or any other fans stand on hill16. And to think other counties didn't give Dublin tickets as well. I'd like to ask that guy who wants to boycott the National League, if a true GAA fan does he from allow his club around the county for league and championship. That's a true GAA fan.
Also the fact is always lost on some Dublin fans not all BTW the unreal expense a match in Dublin costs. If your fro. West Kerry, west Mayo or North Donegal it is a 6.30 am start getting to a match."
I'm not a fan of him or his page. He/they think far too much of themselves but to answer one of your questions. He follows Dublin everywhere, and i don't just mean the senior footballers, he follows both senior football and hurling, 21s football and hurling, Minor in both codes, the ladies in both codes. He's at every game. And boy do we know all about it.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 21/09/2016 09:00:36    1917280

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The article, for anyone that's wondering what it's about: link

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 21/09/2016 09:03:26    1917282

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Id say genuine Dubs fans must hate seeing crap like this!

Talk about a sense of entitlement!

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1337 - 21/09/2016 09:20:57    1917291

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Everyone is always b&é"'ing about the Dubs and the Hill. Take the Dubs off the Hill and see the impact on atmosphere etc. They are credited with very little, dismissed as Premier League supporters etc.

Yet look at the reception they gave the Kerry Minors on Sunday.....a better reception than the Minors got from their own County Board.

And remember what are the best attended League Games the year round, even outside Croker, yet come the final the Hill allocation to Dublin is cut by 50%. They are not asking for more tickets. There were Dubs going around trying to swap Stand Tickets for Hill tickets with no charge as it is like a 'spiritual home' in some sense.

So stop the Dubs going to the Hill and per the first line see the atmosphere drop. Funny ask all the county teams they want to play Dublin in front of a packed Hill, yet come a final everyone wants to evict the Dubs.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 21/09/2016 09:22:52    1917292

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I think the point being made is that dublin bankroll the gaa with the quantity of fans that go to all the matches , whether mayo like it or not.
At the final then we are all wondering why Mayo had approx. 70% of the tickets and Dublin 30% regardless of the Hill or not . One third of the Hill was Mayo, all the nally was mayo, 70% of the hogan wa mayo and 60% of the cusack was mayo.
Anyone but dublin couldnt give a toss, i know. However for all the fans that did go to most of the matches for dublin one begs the question of why such mis-allocation was allowed.
We assume that the other countries sent the tickets to mayo rather than to central council, if that is the case then there is a strong argument that most tickets should go to the competiting teams. Last Sunday the minors were playing so a lot of galway tickets would have gone to mayo as there was practically no galway there.
I think thats a fair analysis

heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 21/09/2016 09:23:48    1917293

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This is the same moaning every year......there is a reward scheme for supporters it's called the season ticket! Also All Ireland final day is about the whole of the GAA not just the competing counties and as for lads saying what about the guys who get a ticket from their club but don't attend the league games.....guess what the reason a lot of those people can't make inter county league games ( with their families) is because they are coaching someone else's kids down at juvenile training in their club. I know myself there are loads of national league games I'd love to attend but it clashes with juvenile training or matches and I know which one is more important to me and my club

Very very rarely are true club volunteers left at home on All Ireland day when their county is playing, happens sometimes I would agree in Dublin in some if the 'super clubs' due to the sheer number of members but I genuinely think the distribution method in the GAA is pretty good....only gripe would be number of tickets to staff/central council is OTT for me.

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 21/09/2016 09:34:32    1917297

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Replying To heresam:  "I think the point being made is that dublin bankroll the gaa with the quantity of fans that go to all the matches , whether mayo like it or not.
At the final then we are all wondering why Mayo had approx. 70% of the tickets and Dublin 30% regardless of the Hill or not . One third of the Hill was Mayo, all the nally was mayo, 70% of the hogan wa mayo and 60% of the cusack was mayo.
Anyone but dublin couldnt give a toss, i know. However for all the fans that did go to most of the matches for dublin one begs the question of why such mis-allocation was allowed.
We assume that the other countries sent the tickets to mayo rather than to central council, if that is the case then there is a strong argument that most tickets should go to the competiting teams. Last Sunday the minors were playing so a lot of galway tickets would have gone to mayo as there was practically no galway there.
I think thats a fair analysis"
Mayo and Dublin both were allocation the same amount of tickets and that is a fact. You can't blame Mayo fans for being more resourceful in finding tickets outside the county. I think the team (Mayo in this case) that has an extra week also helps. The replay should see more dubs as Mayo people I know that flew home from the US, Australia etc won't be back for the replay.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 21/09/2016 09:38:57    1917299

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I saw the post via that Joe.ie article and was pretty amazed by its content being honest. It appears Mr. Fennell wouldnt be happy unless the Dubs not only had sole occupancy of the Hill but the other three stands as well. Rather unfair to reference the Mayo crowd v Fermanagh, that was a Saturday afternoon game, not everyone's cup of tea, and Mayo's support is readily recognised as exceptional. Articles like that don't do Dublin any favours at all really

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 21/09/2016 09:43:52    1917306

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Dublin bank roll the GAA seriously??????? Granted they have some good attendances from Leinster final onwards but Dublin GAA is getting plenty back in funding to their county and clubs as well so please save us this nonsense.

Mayo certainly seemed to have great support on Sunday but that had nothing to do with the distribution from GAA centrally and all about Mayo people (and their county secretary) using their contacts......would also suggest that there were plenty of neutrals there sporting Mayo colours for the day......certainly was the case around me in the Davin

Be a greater allocation for the competing counties for the replay now there is no minor game but to seriously suggest there is some kind of conspiracy to have more Mayo people at the game then Dubs....come on that's nonsense, Mayo just hunted their tickets down better, part of which is 'possibly' influenced by a greater proportion of their fans being involved in day to day running of clubs ( greater spread of GAA contacts).....don't say that to demean the many great Gaels in Dublin GAA but the casual fans not connected to a club( of which Dublin have more than other counties) will struggle to rustle up tickets from outside the county

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 21/09/2016 09:44:01    1917307

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Hill16 Army is run by Barry Fennell and he is far from an utter fool that man does great work for sick children with cancer especially young Molly , his biggest crime here is he loves Dublin Gaa with a passion and right now feels his county is getting shafted. His page is very popular with Dublin supporters and he's at every Dublin match men or women hurling or football. Croi I think your being very harsh on Barry he's one of the good guys imo.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 21/09/2016 09:58:28    1917317

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This is the same moaning every year......there is a reward scheme for supporters it's called the season ticket! Also All Ireland final day is about the whole of the GAA not just the competing counties and as for lads saying what about the guys who get a ticket from their club but don't attend the league games.....guess what the reason a lot of those people can't make inter county league games ( with their families) is because they are coaching someone else's kids down at juvenile training in their club. I know myself there are loads of national league games I'd love to attend but it clashes with juvenile training or matches and I know which one is more important to me and my club

Very very rarely are true club volunteers left at home on All Ireland day when their county is playing, happens sometimes I would agree in Dublin in some if the 'super clubs' due to the sheer number of members but I genuinely think the distribution method in the GAA is pretty good....only gripe would be number of tickets to staff/central council is OTT for me.

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts:287 - 21/09/2016 09:34:32 1917297

The point is that if tickets are unwanted by members they should be re-distribted fairly to those thta support the GAA continually.

heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 21/09/2016 10:05:31    1917319

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The main problem is why are the non competing counties being given the same allocation for the replay.
this is an extra game and as Milton States yesterday the gaa could have sold croke park out twice over with the demand from competing counties so then why don't the gaa out their money where there mouth is and give the competing counties the tickets. The non competing counties already had their big day out.
Its funny also mayo decided to rebuild McHale park as an all seater they purposely opted for no terrace because there was no demand for standing yet come the final against Dublin they are demanding hill tickets haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/09/2016 10:08:16    1917321

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people take swipe at others without knowing the facts, Barry and his site welcome all to the hill, the issue is the distribution of declined tickets and how to mitigate this fairly.
There is 31 counties up for Mayo so any final will be edged by dublin opponents which to be fair dublin is used to. However mayo having 70% of the tickets is wrong and nobody can argue that point

heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 21/09/2016 10:09:06    1917322

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "This is the same moaning every year......there is a reward scheme for supporters it's called the season ticket! Also All Ireland final day is about the whole of the GAA not just the competing counties and as for lads saying what about the guys who get a ticket from their club but don't attend the league games.....guess what the reason a lot of those people can't make inter county league games ( with their families) is because they are coaching someone else's kids down at juvenile training in their club. I know myself there are loads of national league games I'd love to attend but it clashes with juvenile training or matches and I know which one is more important to me and my club

Very very rarely are true club volunteers left at home on All Ireland day when their county is playing, happens sometimes I would agree in Dublin in some if the 'super clubs' due to the sheer number of members but I genuinely think the distribution method in the GAA is pretty good....only gripe would be number of tickets to staff/central council is OTT for me."
Well said Sir - plenty of people would love to be in a privileged enough position that they can take up and follow the County team around the County at the drop of a hat. Others as you say maybe have commitments that don't offer them the same opportunity be that family or that they are actively involved with some team in their club on the days of the County games. Anyone in that position is every bit as deserving of an All Ireland ticket as those who can make games and maybe aren't involved much or at all at club level. Too many Mé Féiners.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 21/09/2016 10:16:40    1917327

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Hill16 Army is run by Barry Fennell and he is far from an utter fool that man does great work for sick children with cancer especially young Molly , his biggest crime here is he loves Dublin Gaa with a passion and right now feels his county is getting shafted. His page is very popular with Dublin supporters and he's at every Dublin match men or women hurling or football. Croi I think your being very harsh on Barry he's one of the good guys imo."
All exceptionally commendable Clondalkin as is his love of his county but I think he posted before he thought out certain things after last Sunday, having now looked at the page it doesn't look good and some of the comments and reactions by some supporters are pretty awful, it appears he has tried to pull back a bit and reengage with Mayo supporters in recent posts, hope that trend continues. His argument about ticket allocation is without basis or foundation, Mayo were just quicker off the mark in doing deals....

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 21/09/2016 10:19:32    1917330

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Replying To Richieq:  "I saw the post via that Joe.ie article and was pretty amazed by its content being honest. It appears Mr. Fennell wouldnt be happy unless the Dubs not only had sole occupancy of the Hill but the other three stands as well. Rather unfair to reference the Mayo crowd v Fermanagh, that was a Saturday afternoon game, not everyone's cup of tea, and Mayo's support is readily recognised as exceptional. Articles like that don't do Dublin any favours at all really"
The facts are plain to see. Mayo for whatever reason had a huge majority of the tickets for the final. I sat in the cusack lower and I would confident in saying that the split was at least 70% to 30% in Mayo's favour. For years we have listened to the Dubs only arrive for the championship in August so I think we are entitled to voice our opinion and it is correct to say that Mayo's support has been relatively modest up to the final. I don't believe for one second the that the ticket allocation for the final that is in the public domain is actually the truth. Mayo are getting more tickets and don't give me this bull that they are better at sourcing them. They were even in a position to produce two tickets for the senator that actually had no entitlement to a ticket as she thought. Simple, Dublin can bring decent crowds throughout the championship but when it comes to the final they are not getting a fair crack of the week.

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 21/09/2016 10:22:33    1917332

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I don't get this perception from country people that if your involved in a club and don t bother to go to county games all year and come the final you get a ticket you deserve it solely because you are a member of a club. A person who goes and supports their county all year regardless of if they are in a club or not is more dedicated to the county team and is far more entitled to get a ticket to see their county than somebody who hasn't gone and supported the county all year.
plus a lot of country people don't understand the situation in dublin when comes to tickets. It seems quite clear 90% of club members in mayo can get tickets beacuse the club numbers aren't far off their ticket allocations, in dublin you get a fraction of tickets per club membership. The club is the worst place to get a ticket for an all ireland final in dublin and most clubs have to do a draw to give out tickets as demand is so high. Season ticket schemes like the Parnell pass and the gaa season ticket are only on offer renewals the last number of years so that avenue is closed off to a number of genuine Dublin supporters. For me what's on unfair is the gaa are quite happy for people to buy tickets through supervalu and centra and gaa.ie all year but then when they know they don't need them they dump them and don't sell a single ticket through them for the finals. Supervalu are a sponsor of the football championship and centra a sponsor of the hurling championship surely these two companies should be demanding as sponsors that their customers get rewarded for purchasing tickets through them all year and have a certain amount of tickets made avalible to them. When you see td's radio stationsand celebrities being given tickets it's hardly too much to ask that two of the main sponsors be given tickets to sell to genuine supporters.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/09/2016 10:30:03    1917336

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Hill16 Army is run by Barry Fennell and he is far from an utter fool that man does great work for sick children with cancer especially young Molly , his biggest crime here is he loves Dublin Gaa with a passion and right now feels his county is getting shafted. His page is very popular with Dublin supporters and he's at every Dublin match men or women hurling or football. Croi I think your being very harsh on Barry he's one of the good guys imo."
Clondalkin I do agree the stuff he does with Molly etc. is extremely commendable and for that I do admire him but some of the stuff I've read of his is cringeworthy. The way he talks to some people is far from pleasant and heaven forbid you don't go support the ladies/minors etc. you're torn apart in a big long rant for not being a 'proper' Dublin fan. He just thinks he's the bee knees when it comes to being a Dublin GAA supporter. You can be a good fan without the air of cockiness he has about him, that's all.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 21/09/2016 10:30:21    1917337

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