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9 Dubs forwards, would any not make the Mayo team?

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Ok, I am sure this topic will annoy a few and so on and so forth.....but so what!
What do people think?

I am gonna name 9 Dubs forwards.
Flynn, Connolly, Kilkenny, Brogan, McManaman, Rock, Andrews, Mannion, O'Gara
Now honestly, would any of those lads NOT get in the Mayo starting 15?
Some may say that Deano is only there for frees, and Mayo have COC, but going on their respective form this year, that argument doesn't stand up.
To be honest, I'd say Cormac Costelloe would most likely start for Mayo too

I have to be honest, if Dublin get 45%-55% at Midfield, I cant see a path for Mayo to win ?

Am I wrong?

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 07/09/2016 12:55:39    1911241

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This will annoy a few no doubt Liamo ;)

In all honesty Brogan Kilkenny Connolly McMennamon on CURRENT FORM would walk into their team.

The rest of our forwards, starters and subs, there is a strong case to be made for each of them.

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 07/09/2016 13:07:05    1911248

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i.e. if any ONE of those 9 were to transfer over would they start? Yes, I think all would, with the possible exception of Costelloe.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 07/09/2016 13:14:25    1911253

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How about if we invert the question? How many Mayo forwards would get into our forward line? I'd honestly say zero maybe a couple would push for spots on the 26 but that is it.

BlueGolconda (Dublin) - Posts: 39 - 07/09/2016 13:27:50    1911267

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I don't think a single Mayo forward would start for Dublin
If anyone can tell me who to drop I would be interested
Diarmuid O'Connor in June looked mighty, hasn't done much atall since
would COC get in on 2016 form over Dean Rock? No chance!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 07/09/2016 13:28:24    1911268

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Ok, I am sure this topic will annoy a few and so on and so forth.....but so what!
What do people think?

I am gonna name 9 Dubs forwards.
Flynn, Connolly, Kilkenny, Brogan, McManaman, Rock, Andrews, Mannion, O'Gara
Now honestly, would any of those lads NOT get in the Mayo starting 15?
Some may say that Deano is only there for frees, and Mayo have COC, but going on their respective form this year, that argument doesn't stand up.
To be honest, I'd say Cormac Costelloe would most likely start for Mayo too

I have to be honest, if Dublin get 45%-55% at Midfield, I cant see a path for Mayo to win ?

Am I wrong?"
O'gara and Costello wouldn't.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 07/09/2016 13:34:30    1911272

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As a neutral with both sets of forwards at my disposal I'd go for a front 6 of:

A O'Shea
Connolly
Kilkenny
Rock
A Moran
McManamon

Really balanced forward line.

Brogan is probably better than Moran all round but Moran is such a good focal point, he'd be great for getting the most out of the guys around him.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4217 - 07/09/2016 13:37:55    1911278

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "I don't think a single Mayo forward would start for Dublin
If anyone can tell me who to drop I would be interested
Diarmuid O'Connor in June looked mighty, hasn't done much atall since
would COC get in on 2016 form over Dean Rock? No chance!"
Aidan o se would be a great addition at full forward, as would d o connor in the half forward line. A toss up between rock and Coc

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 07/09/2016 13:38:00    1911279

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Replying To Whammo86:  "As a neutral with both sets of forwards at my disposal I'd go for a front 6 of:

A O'Shea
Connolly
Kilkenny
Rock
A Moran
McManamon

Really balanced forward line.

Brogan is probably better than Moran all round but Moran is such a good focal point, he'd be great for getting the most out of the guys around him."
Moran ahead of Brogan...

Jesus Wept.....

But then again, its all about opinions, so fair enough :)

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 07/09/2016 14:25:07    1911315

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Replying To ROS1:  "Aidan o se would be a great addition at full forward, as would d o connor in the half forward line. A toss up between rock and Coc"
honestly ROC, it very hard to have this debate without sounding arrogant, but, they just wouldn't make the Dubs forwards.
They really wouldn't. DOC would bench alright but no chance he would start, and AOS and AM wouldn't be within an asses roar of the Dubs forwards.
If AOS was a Dub, he would be a MF'r. Andy Moran wouldn't make the panel anymore, sorry, but he wouldn't. COC is still young and would make the panel for sure, but wouldn't start.
Funnily, I think Mayos two best players are Colm Boyle and Lee Keegan yet if Dublin had all their players available and back fit, neither would get a game for me. McCarthy O'Sullivan McCaffrey is untouchable when all fit.
Keith Higgins is a supreme player, I dunno where I would play him but I would find somewhere.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 07/09/2016 14:56:10    1911339

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The two outstanding forwards in the Mayo/Dublin U21 semi earlier this year were D O'Connor (1-1, both from play) and C O'Callaghan (1-5, 1-2 from play), maybe on the day O'Connor shaded it over O'Callaghan but it was close and could be argued either way. A solid indicator of the relative attacking strength of the two senior teams is that O'Connor is a nailed on starter for Mayo while O'Callaghan would rank no. 10 for the Dubs.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 676 - 07/09/2016 15:16:39    1911353

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Ah the Andy Moran mythologisation continues unabated.

Last year it was Cian O'Sullivan, this year Andy Moran, who will next years undeserving legend be?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 07/09/2016 15:31:48    1911362

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Replying To sligo joe:  "The two outstanding forwards in the Mayo/Dublin U21 semi earlier this year were D O'Connor (1-1, both from play) and C O'Callaghan (1-5, 1-2 from play), maybe on the day O'Connor shaded it over O'Callaghan but it was close and could be argued either way. A solid indicator of the relative attacking strength of the two senior teams is that O'Connor is a nailed on starter for Mayo while O'Callaghan would rank no. 10 for the Dubs."
Also, Keith Higgins makes the Mayo forward line.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 07/09/2016 15:35:59    1911364

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Ah the Andy Moran mythologisation continues unabated.

Last year it was Cian O'Sullivan, this year Andy Moran, who will next years undeserving legend be?"
with u on the Andy Moran bit Breff!
Don't see it atall this year
Think its cos he is old!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 07/09/2016 15:54:26    1911376

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Moran ahead of Brogan...

Jesus Wept.....

But then again, its all about opinions, so fair enough :)"
As I say, I think Brogan is a better player than Moran, but I just think you put Moran in their he's giving you an extra option.

His in to out movement is excellent and he just provides a great direct ball outlet.

Imagine Kilkenny drifting out to pick up the ball he can play the ball into Moran who's anyone of Connolly, Rock, O Shea or McManamon to lay it off to. No team could live with that.

As a Dublin fan do you feel that Brogan is performing at the highs of previous years right now.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4217 - 07/09/2016 16:00:42    1911382

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Ah the Andy Moran mythologisation continues unabated.

Last year it was Cian O'Sullivan, this year Andy Moran, who will next years undeserving legend be?"
Andy Moran has been exceptional this year. If you can't see that then I suggest a trip to specsavers.

BTW who said Brogan would be in the team based on current form? He's lucky to be making the Dublin 15 with his current form, although he can turn it on out of no where.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 07/09/2016 16:03:28    1911383

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "honestly ROC, it very hard to have this debate without sounding arrogant, but, they just wouldn't make the Dubs forwards.
They really wouldn't. DOC would bench alright but no chance he would start, and AOS and AM wouldn't be within an asses roar of the Dubs forwards.
If AOS was a Dub, he would be a MF'r. Andy Moran wouldn't make the panel anymore, sorry, but he wouldn't. COC is still young and would make the panel for sure, but wouldn't start.
Funnily, I think Mayos two best players are Colm Boyle and Lee Keegan yet if Dublin had all their players available and back fit, neither would get a game for me. McCarthy O'Sullivan McCaffrey is untouchable when all fit.
Keith Higgins is a supreme player, I dunno where I would play him but I would find somewhere."
Aidan o se would walk into the dubs team at full forward. Coc has been a better player then rock over the last few years but rock has had a better 2016.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 07/09/2016 16:06:31    1911386

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "with u on the Andy Moran bit Breff!
Don't see it atall this year
Think its cos he is old!!"
If you can't see the class of Moran then I don't know what you are looking at. Fair enough he wouldn't get on the dubs team but still.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 07/09/2016 16:08:51    1911388

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Replying To Whammo86:  "As I say, I think Brogan is a better player than Moran, but I just think you put Moran in their he's giving you an extra option.

His in to out movement is excellent and he just provides a great direct ball outlet.

Imagine Kilkenny drifting out to pick up the ball he can play the ball into Moran who's anyone of Connolly, Rock, O Shea or McManamon to lay it off to. No team could live with that.

As a Dublin fan do you feel that Brogan is performing at the highs of previous years right now."
I think Brogan has been very poor this year. Very poor against Kerry and I thought he was non existent against Donegal bar about 5 minutes at the start of the game.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 07/09/2016 16:11:15    1911389

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Oh God, please let Mayo win this game.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 07/09/2016 16:15:28    1911392

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