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I have to say the ref was outstanding in the final today. He got all the calls correct and let the game flow. So its a 10 out out 10 for that mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 240 - 04/09/2016 22:12:04 1910019 Link 2 |
Have to agree. Im normally quick to criticise referees when they deserve it so I am more than happy to give praise where it is due a brilliant performance by the referee today. 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 04/09/2016 23:15:55 1910031 Link 0 |
Yeah few complaints - really let it flow and it did and his calls were consistently applied.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4892 - 04/09/2016 23:22:35 1910033 Link 0 |
I agree. Excellent reffing. Was pleasantly surprised that he penalized both teams for over carrying on a number of occasions and finally a ref strong enough to give frees against Kilkenny for the little shoves, arm grabbing etc. that they do just before a high ball lands. Well done Sir. Termon (Tyrone) - Posts: 58 - 05/09/2016 08:16:10 1910059 Link 0 |
Totally agree, he let the game flow, it was played hard and the players are a credit also. Also nonsense about refs being physically fit specimens goes out the window with Brian Gavin - he wont mind me saying that I'm sure but what he does have is a lot of common sense, knowledge of the game, ability to make decisions quickly and generally correctly. He uses the other officials if he needs to and has good rapport with the players. The GAA could do better than to have the likes of Brian train new referees coming through especially in football. The game yesterday was a joy to watch and that is down to both the players and Brian Gain - well done.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 05/09/2016 10:10:53 1910096 Link 0 |
Agree with everything said on here. Great to see frees given for over carrying, clamping down on this forces players to play the ball quickly and so they are less inclined to look to carry it into tackles where much of the trouble starts. Great credit to Gavin but also great credit to both sets of players and management who made his life easy by just playing the game. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 05/09/2016 10:46:59 1910124 Link 0 |
You have to be joking suggesting he should have anything to do with training football refs. Much of what was 'let flow' yesterday would have yielded several black cards in a football game and rightly so. Players' runs off the ball were continually blocked and you had deliberate tripping, pulling, dragging, holding to stopforwards presenting for the ball, and over-carrying (only some of the latter were punished). He is apparently one of the better refs for hurling but his approach would cause mayhem in football. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 05/09/2016 15:36:32 1910299 Link 0 |
Disagree I'd much rather have that than Coldrick or Gough flashing cards all over the place for nothing tackles and destroying games - it's a mans game let it go.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 05/09/2016 16:47:25 1910339 Link 0 |
So scrap the rule book - it''s a 'man''s game'. Why bother having a ref at all?
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 05/09/2016 17:38:49 1910360 Link 0 |
Brian Gavin is easily the best referee in the GAA, he could referee a football final just as well, It is all about the players and the game to him, no nonsense aproach, understands what is at stake for the teams and has total respect of all players, Also believe it or not he is very fit and minds himself well, has a good team of umpires as well, they are totally tuned in to one another, If he stays around he will referee a few more finals yet, excellent game yesterday, I was at three games he refereed this year and not a bother in any of them theref (Offaly) - Posts: 7 - 05/09/2016 17:46:40 1910364 Link 0 |
Wrong neverright.There's a balance to be struck here.Certainly in Gaelic football cards are being given out for very little and in some cases players are being sent off for very little.A sending off distorts the outcome of a match and players should only be sent off when they deserve to be.I'd say the proportion of high profile Gaelic football matches that have a sending off is high.In recent matches, Dublin had two players sent off against Donegal and Tyrone had Cavanagh sent off against Mayo for very little really.I think the football refs feel under pressure to flash the cards.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2141 - 05/09/2016 17:52:29 1910371 Link 0 |
Great to see Brian finally get the plaudits he deserves. He had a good game yesterday, made one or two errors on both sides, but was consistent and fair. Lookit (Kilkenny) - Posts: 12 - 05/09/2016 20:11:24 1910411 Link 0 |
Ridiculous response that's not what I or anyone have been saying - the responses to you couldn't have been put better by me - we need a referee in football like Brian who can control a game with his team, understands the game and how to manage it in a way that he doesn't become the centre of attention - if you think that means having no referee then you are a fool! I hope the Administrator allows me to respond to you - they didn't allow my first response.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 05/09/2016 22:16:14 1910449 Link 0 |
I thought the ref had a excellent game yesterday, he let the game flow and the players responded by no dirty fouls, not 1 player was booked yesterday, would the same happen in football? Of course not, why? Because hurling is a mans game, they are well able to give and take a hard shoulder, the football rules has made football soft, imagine if you had the Kerry and Dublin teams of the 70s playing the Kerry, Dublin, Mayo etc of today, they would get destroyed fitness wise but for tackles and hard shoulders they would cripple the players of today, bring back the art of the shoulder, in the Dublin v Kerry game last week 2 Dublin players gave 2 strong shoulders to Kerry lads, haven't seen that happen or allowed for at least 14 or 15 years, love watching that but have to admit hated getting that thump, knocked you back on your a**e and winded you, takes a while to recover from that riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 05/09/2016 22:36:54 1910467 Link 0 |
As I said earlier if he reffed a football game allowing frontal charges, deliberate trips, pulling, holding, dragging and blocking players' runs off the ball, as he did in the hurling final, it would have wound up in a free-for-all. To think otherwise is to show no understanding of football rules today. The terms, 'letting the game flow' and 'using common sense' simply mean ignoring the rules or putting your own interpretation on them.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 05/09/2016 23:27:09 1910486 Link 0 |
i think you are talking about roscommon football here
mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 240 - 06/09/2016 02:11:22 1910504 Link 0 |
He's not - he, unfortunately, is describing pretty much every gaelic football match over the past 10-15 years. His post is 100% spot on btw. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4978 - 06/09/2016 10:40:03 1910573 Link 0 |
While I usually don't defend Gavin, as I've been on the wrong end of a few of his calls, he is also a very good ref in football. I am fairly certain he has refereed county finals in football as well as hurling. He refs both games completely different. Of course there will be more fouls in football, its a slower game and there is more physical contact. The thing he does well is explain his decisions and doesn't take nonsense from players. He still plays himself, in fact he was togged out as a sub for Clara in the intermediate quarter final on Saturday, so he knows what players like and don't like tonorio (Offaly) - Posts: 608 - 08/09/2016 13:44:56 1911837 Link 0 |
He had a good game but one very bad mistake in Rule was the free in the first half from Calanan that was blocked by a Kilkenny defender who was only 10-12 metres from the free instead of the required 20 metres.... a bad error which cost tipp a score kikfada (Louth) - Posts: 2091 - 10/09/2016 00:30:25 1912471 Link 1 |