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To all the managers and pundits complaining about this I would ask this question: What would you rather teams do? Allow dangerous players time and space? unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 18/08/2016 13:43:30 1902758 Link 0 |
No surprise to see this coming from a Mayo man jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 18/08/2016 14:24:46 1902778 Link 3 |
I think it's more to do with the outside of the rules stuff that teams go out with. Starting fights with guys to get them booked and the like. If officials were better there'd be less of it and to be honest players should be well used to it by now they shouldn't react. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 18/08/2016 14:25:19 1902779 Link 1 |
it's just the latest craze for people to yap about,do people really think the best players or players who were known to give reactions never got special treatment in years/decades gone by?ya used to get it at u12s ffs! achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 561 - 18/08/2016 16:25:16 1902861 Link 1 |
At least we don't spend our time talking about Mayo like ye dubs! 5 minutes have past isn't it time for you to start another thread about those mean boys from Mayo are upsetting everyone?
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 18/08/2016 16:46:06 1902874 Link 2 |
Posted about this a few weeks ago..anyone that's been involved in football knows it goes on and as much as people hate to hear it's part of the game..it's what makes the best man markers the best in the business..even the perceived nice guys are at it..don't worry though I'm sure there will be a dive or a punch or a slap this weekend for all the begrudgers to moan about this weekend... Dangerman17 (Mayo) - Posts: 26 - 18/08/2016 16:51:36 1902880 Link 1 |
Yeah no Mayo poster ever talks about Dublin How observant of you jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 18/08/2016 16:59:45 1902887 Link 2 |
You could just legally try to deny them time and space. you know it can be done. But not by walking on their heels, pinching, a sly dig, diving, feigning injury, provocations etc etc and certainly not by just being a total idiot who should probably be on stage.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 18/08/2016 17:51:33 1902929 Link 2 |
Whataboutwhataboutwhatabout!
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 18/08/2016 18:01:44 1902940 Link 2 |
I agree, PC/Social Media, over analysis, said it before, nothings changed in regard to winding up players to get them sent off, I can assure you.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 19/08/2016 01:58:47 1903065 Link 1 |
Targeting the opponents best player(s) has always gone on, I doubt if it is any worse than year's ago. Most fans are up in in arms if their players gets targeted but it's ok for their player's do it. Over the past few years I have seen all of the top teams do it. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 19/08/2016 13:18:25 1903188 Link 2 |
How dare you! Jim sends the Dubs out to play clean beautiful football! Take it back ;-)
JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 19/08/2016 13:48:23 1903205 Link 0 |
As many posters have already pointed out targeting of marquee forwards or of players likely to react to a bit of foul play has always been in the game. Anyone who has played the game at any level knows this. What I have found recently is that some GAA supporters and so called pundits are getting targetting and genuine man marking of a player mixed up a bit. It's seems some people want the man marker taken out off the game so that the marquee players can run riot. Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 19/08/2016 14:19:50 1903219 Link 1 |
Never a truer word was spoken Jayp. The only time the Dubs ever targeted a player was when Keith Barr used to be tasked with marking O'Rourke. O'Rourke would come out with a support on his knee so great in size you could wrap an Egyptian mummy in it. He'd hobble over to the 45. Poor Keith didn't know whether to mark him or call the Order of Malta. Barr would do more talking to O'Rourke than the late Micheal O'Hehir would do on AI final day. Still O'Rourke would hobble around trying to give the impression that he urgently needed a visit to Lourdes. The first ball would come in interrupting Keith's commentary to O'Rourke on his seeming disabled state. O'Rourke would rise like a phoenix, glide by poor Keith and swing the bandaged leg like a ballerina pirouetting to Swan Lake while despatching the ball over in a perfect arc to dissect the posts. Keith would remark to O'Rourke on his miraculous recovery and complement him on his sublime skill. The next ball would come in and O'Rourke with be met with a double bumber juggernaut with a Finglas reg plate on it in the form of a Barr/Herry sandwich. O'Rourke would get up and walk straight now having been given a real cause to limp on one side now to balance out the fake one on the bandaged knee. Keith would say sorry about the accident and wish him well. Ah the days before diving and when sledging was just a thing that you did at Xmas when it snowed.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 19/08/2016 14:52:06 1903227 Link 0 |
Have to say to the Dubs, what's the point in acting high and mighty over targeting when none of you were condemning Philly after last years all Ireland. Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 19/08/2016 14:56:42 1903228 Link 1 |
Those who say its always been done so that makes it perfectly ok are completely wrong. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 19/08/2016 15:20:50 1903242 Link 0 |
I enjoyed reading that.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 19/08/2016 16:12:43 1903270 Link 0 |
It's a physical game where players will test the limits of what the can get away with. Do you expect Philly McMahon and Johnny Cooper to give O'Donoghue and Geaney the freedom of Croke Park next week? Or whatever Kerry defenders are assigned too Connolly and co? You sound like you want good aggressive man marking banned from the game. As I said earlier it would be good to get the excessive in your face verbals punished either at the time if spotted by the officals or retrospectively by the CCC to try and get rid off it as it's terrible to look at. People think good man marking is the same thing as targeting and it kind of is when you think about it. The defenders know days before the game who they will be assigned to and they will do the best for their team to keep that player quiet and will do it anyway they can and are allowed to. The 2 Dublin lads I mentioned earlier are great at this, as are Lee Keegan, Neil McGee, Keith Higgins, Killian Young and Aidan O'Mahony to name a few as were Ryan McMenamin, Sean Marty Lockart, Seamus Moynihan, Anthony Lynch and Mark O'Reilly is years gone by. All the players I have mentioned as well as many others have been involved in some great battles and haven't always come out on top but their job is always to mark one of the best players in the country when they take to the field in big games so they're hardly going to stand off and get skinned?? I always enjoy the build up to see who is picking up who and sometimes you just know it's going to be great entertainment during play as well as off the ball when you see one of the best defenders against one of the best attackers. The word "targeting" is just a new buzz word being used at the minute but it's nothing new. By the way, you're doping reference is idiotic. As far as I know that has never been a problem in the game and lets hope it stays that way!! Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 19/08/2016 17:14:39 1903292 Link 1 |
Mobot hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 19/08/2016 18:43:12 1903320 Link 0 |
OK JayP I take it all back ha ha. In fairness to Jim Gavin his teams do go out to play football but you are always going to odd player on your team who is full of devilment. Connolly is such a good footballer that the opposition are always going to target him. I would agree with other posters that some of the sledging in just way over the top and the black card should be used. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 19/08/2016 21:35:17 1903379 Link 0 |