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Andy McEntee - New Meath Manager

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I honestly believe this is Meaths best appointment by far since the days of Boylan.Cracking management team too,which includes Donal Curtis and his brother Gerry. They have the capacity to make Meath at least competitve and play with true heart and desire along with belief.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/08/2016 21:14:00    1898349

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I started a thread but it was taken down?
Anyhow this is fantastic news, described as the best manager mdm played under.
Like a phoenix rising from the ashes the Royal are coming back.
Hon the Royal.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/08/2016 21:35:48    1898364

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I started a thread but it was taken down?
Anyhow this is fantastic news, described as the best manager mdm played under.
Like a phoenix rising from the ashes the Royal are coming back.
Hon the Royal."
Indeed.It will be a more professional setup,players will return to the panel.We will see a better structure and any players not willing to bleed for the jersey will be gone.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/08/2016 21:50:31    1898378

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A great appointment. Did great work with Boden and if Gerry is there as well then it augers well for Meath's future. A 3 year term but he has a lot of work to do. Best man for the job though I would say.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 08/08/2016 21:51:08    1898379

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Yeh good luck to him. Be good to see Meath step it up a bit and challenge the Dubs !

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 08/08/2016 21:53:21    1898383

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Long road ahead, but at least we will be competitive once again.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2141 - 08/08/2016 21:55:20    1898386

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Meath for Sam 2017!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 08/08/2016 21:56:07    1898387

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all they need is the players now!! managers don't kick the ball over the bar

superdub (Dublin) - Posts: 392 - 08/08/2016 21:57:10    1898389

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Meath are top class manager away from been a seriously good gaelic football team. They have a very young panel and been knockin on Division ones door for years. Meath are always strong at the end of the decade. Every Meath team every decade since the 1930s have beaten Dublin , won Leinster and played in All Ireland finals. I think the first two mentioned above are very attainable under McEntee. If Meath can develop leaders and the McEntees build on their impressive CV to become top class managers, Meath could be a team to watch out for.

Yes there`s no gurantee of success when you appoint any manager. There has been examples of managers sucessfull in other codes eg Alan Muholland and not delivering success. But prior success can be a really good indicator. In the last 25 years , 95% of All Ireland winning managers achieved success at All Ireland level in other codes. For example Mickey Harte, Pete McGrath, Joe Kiernan, Eamon Fitzmaurice, Jimmy McGuinness and Jim Galvin all won or atl least reached an All Ireland final at minor, schools, U21 and club level. Only Pat Gilroy and Conor Coulihan have won an All Ireland without prior success at All Ireland level at U21, minor or club level. So if you want to win an All Ireland you need to appoint a manger that has at least played in an All Ireland final at another level. Andy McEntee is the only Meathman that fits that bill. Not only does he have the best CV in Meath football at the moment, but has one of the best if not the best managerial CV in the country for a young manager who has not yet managed at inter county level.
What makes his CV so good is that he has reached All Ireland final at two different levels. Its a better CV then James Horan ,Jimmy McGuiness or Stephen Rochford had before they entered the inter county stage. Its similar to what Mickey Harte and Pete McGrath CV were before they took the senior job. Thee twon above achieved success at two different levels. Im not saying Andy is the new Mickey Harte. We dont know how good Andy can become. But looking as his CV you cannot but be impressed. He is the only Meath man to manage a Meath team in an All Ireland final at minor, schools, Club and U21 level in the last ten years. I think that he could be the only manager to manage a Leinster team in minor All Ireland final ( other then Dublin) in the last ten years. Even before he takes the Meath job he is one of the most successful manager in Meath GAA history. In that he joins the list of All Ireland winning Meath managers. The list would be Father Tully, Peter McDermont, Sean Boylan, Paul Kenny, Colm O`Rourke and Andy McEntee. He is the only Meath man to mange an All Ireland winning club team.

Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 08/08/2016 22:09:37    1898401

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That victory with Boden was significant in that in my view that team was the poorest Dublin team to win Club All Ireland ever . The Vincent teams of the 70s and now, Ballymun, Na Fianna were much superior outfits. Even in this year Dublin championship there were five better teams then Boden eg Ballymun, St. Vincents, Oliver Plunketts, Parnells. If you named the ten best club team in Ireland I dont think Ballyboden would even get on the list. Crossmaglen and Nemo would be much superior outfits. But what was even more impressive was how they won. With great comebacks, great one point victories and scoring great winning scores in the dying minutes of games. Who does that remind you off , The Meath teams of the 80s and 90s of course. While Colm Keaney and Michael Dara McAuley have raved about him . McCauley said he was the best manager he has worked with and he has been managed by Jim Galvin and Pat Gilroy. So yes there is no gurantee of success but when you examine his CV he is the by far the best candidate and the best option by a metric mile. His appointment could be a turning point in Meath football and leinster football. Kildare are going through a golden age of underage football and under someone like Glen Ryan I can see Kildare winning Leinster in the next few years. While Westmeath have a young team, who have shown real promise in the last two years reaching sucessive finals in the last two years. I believe there is leinster title for this Westmeath team also. Dublin are not going to win the next five All Irelands and they are not going to win next five leinsters. This Dublin team is much older then the above teams. And when the greats like Cluxton and Borgan retire, I dont believe there is a great conveyor belt of talent as people think in the capital. Of course Dublin will win leinsters, and be one of the top teams in the country, they always will be . But as this decade continues they will not be as strong as they are now. I actually believe last years All Ireland is the last one this great Dublin team will win. They peaked last September. And with McEntees appointment, I believe it has the potential to herald a new era in Leinster football. Meath All Ireland champions in 2019, 20 years since their last win and 70 since their first it has nice feel to it. Kildare leinster champions in 2018 twenty years since their great win 1998. Its all gonna change in Leinster football, wait til you see.

Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 08/08/2016 22:13:24    1898407

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Tomsmith Cavan here

While I will congratulate the new team I will caution Meath not to return to the old style of play that took some Meath teams a certain distance in the championship.
Older people in Cavan will remember that Navan and Kells people would not let the buses stop for minerals when we were winning All Ireland. The buses were just waved on.
But good luck to the Meath management trio and I do hope that we dont meet in the beaten section of the championship in 2017

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3856 - 08/08/2016 22:13:53    1898410

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Couldn't have made a better appointment for sure but lets not get carried away with ourselves. Lets see it count on the pitch first. Long while before the O'Byrne Cup never mind even the league.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 452 - 08/08/2016 22:19:51    1898422

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That victory with Boden was significant in that in my view that team was the poorest Dublin team to win Club All Ireland ever . The Vincent teams of the 70s and now, Ballymun, Na Fianna were much superior outfits. Even in this year Dublin championship there were five better teams then Boden eg Ballymun, St. Vincents, Oliver Plunketts, Parnells. If you named the ten best club team in Ireland I dont think Ballyboden would even get on the list. Crossmaglen and Nemo would be much superior outfits. But what was even more impressive was how they won. With great comebacks, great one point victories and scoring great winning scores in the dying minutes of games. Who does that remind you off , The Meath teams of the 80s and 90s of course. While Colm Keaney and Michael Dara McAuley have raved about him . McCauley said he was the best manager he has worked with and he has been managed by Jim Galvin and Pat Gilroy. So yes there is no gurantee of success but when you examine his CV he is the by far the best candidate and the best option by a metric mile. His appointment could be a turning point in Meath football and leinster football. Kildare are going through a golden age of underage football and under someone like Glen Ryan I can see Kildare winning Leinster in the next few years. While Westmeath have a young team, who have shown real promise in the last two years reaching sucessive finals in the last two years. I believe there is leinster title for Westmeath also. Dublin are not going to win next five All Irelands and they are not going to win next five leinsters. This Dublin is much older then the above. And when the greats like Cluxton and Borgan retire, I dont there is a great conveyor belt of talent as people think in the capital. And with McEntee appointment, I believe it has the potential to herald a new era in Leinster football. Meath All Ireland champions in 2019, 20 years since their last win and 70 since their first it has nice feel to it. Kildare leinster champions in 2018 twenty years since their great win 1998. Its all gonna change in Leinster football, wait til you see.

Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 08/08/2016 22:22:05    1898425

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Replying To superdub:  "all they need is the players now!! managers don't kick the ball over the bar"
Well I think this management team will get the best out of them.That was clearly lacking uder the last manager.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/08/2016 22:24:02    1898427

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Replying To superdub:  "all they need is the players now!! managers don't kick the ball over the bar"
Indeed they dont, but u can have the best players in the country and not do anything under a disjointed management.
Players like keoghan, mcgill, Tobin, Harnan, Rooney, Flanagan, Gillespie (if he is fit) Reilly, osullivan, Newman, Wallace, McMahon are all decent players, however they have not been managed properly. Add to that the return of Menton, Carroll, forde o'caoihlain etc who would not play under previous management, all bodes well, as was pointed out , unless you have blood sweat and tears for the jersey , Andy will not tolerate it. He will scour the county for niche players, everyone will be watched and tried, we will have game plans, and for first time in years will be actually fit. If we can play for 70 mins the way we play for 35 with everyone giving it all, it will take a very bloody good team to beat us, it wont happen in 17 but id expect us to be serious contenders for last 4 or knocking on the door in quarters by 18 (if they still around).
I'm absolutely ecstatic. All my birthdays have come together.
Hon the Royal.
Btw some backroom team. :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/08/2016 22:28:30    1898436

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Great appointment but the man needs time, rome wasnt built in a day

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 08/08/2016 22:39:10    1898444

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Replying To juniorjudge:  "Great appointment but the man needs time, rome wasnt built in a day"
Absolutely,but I do expect to see some improvements in certain areas next season.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/08/2016 23:05:30    1898467

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith Cavan here

While I will congratulate the new team I will caution Meath not to return to the old style of play that took some Meath teams a certain distance in the championship.
Older people in Cavan will remember that Navan and Kells people would not let the buses stop for minerals when we were winning All Ireland. The buses were just waved on.
But good luck to the Meath management trio and I do hope that we dont meet in the beaten section of the championship in 2017"
Minerals ? Why did you want to go to Tara mines on the way back from a match ?

Though if you head into Navan now you save on the second M3 toll so might be worth keeping in with your neighbours

You never mentioned the stones though !

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 08/08/2016 23:13:31    1898474

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Well done to McEntee, delighted he got the job, he has a huge task ahead of him given the state of Meath football but you might aswell appoint a good manager (which he is) as a bad one.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 08/08/2016 23:56:42    1898503

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith Cavan here

While I will congratulate the new team I will caution Meath not to return to the old style of play that took some Meath teams a certain distance in the championship.
Older people in Cavan will remember that Navan and Kells people would not let the buses stop for minerals when we were winning All Ireland. The buses were just waved on.
But good luck to the Meath management trio and I do hope that we dont meet in the beaten section of the championship in 2017"
Tom...let's call a spade a spade...the Cavan buses wouldn't have stopped to buy 'minerals' anyway because ye are all far too tight with your money

Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 08/08/2016 23:59:14    1898504

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