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National Hurling Development Boss for 5 counties ?

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I see that the GAA have appointed Martin Fogarty as their new National Hurling Development manager and given him specific responsibility for the development of hurling in Westmeath, Carlow, Offaly, Laois and Antrim. I get the idea of the strategy they are looking at, firstly improving counties where there is a tradition of hurling but not to the extent of the main traditional counties. Makes me wonder how those counties were picked out above other counties. Being from Meath I have to wonder why my county Meath is not part of his specific responsibility. There are probably more hurling club teams in Meath than most of the counties he has specific responsibility for. There has always been a fair few hurling club teams in Meath and in last 20 years the population has grown a lot so could be fertile ground to further grow the game. I'm guessing the likes of the Kerry hurlers would be in a similar boat. It is totally unfair if the GAA is putting far greater amounts of central GAA funds/ resources into developing hurling in 5 counties but not putting similar amounts of funds/ resources into other counties in similar circumstances. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1346 - 30/06/2016 12:15:00 1874195 Link
Up until recently, Meath senior hurlers haven't been setting the world on fire. They're actually taking Carlow's place in next year's Leinster round robin courtesy of winning the Christy Ring Cup so maybe they could apply now to be included in bracket? Look at the huge populations also in Kildare & Louth. The potential is vast! keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 30/06/2016 12:46:04 1874210 Link
The whole thing is a farce. A Tipp man selects a KK man for the job. Why would they care about the weaker counties? They have no idea what it is like in a weaker county. Doomed to failure in my opinion and will cost a fortune tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/06/2016 12:58:41 1874214 Link
Replying To keeper7: "Up until recently, Meath senior hurlers haven't been setting the world on fire. They're actually taking Carlow's place in next year's Leinster round robin courtesy of winning the Christy Ring Cup so maybe they could apply now to be included in bracket? Look at the huge populations also in Kildare & Louth. The potential is vast!" That kind of misses the point. Had Antrim beaten Meath last Saturday I would have said the same. The situation for Meath hurling is similar to other counties which it would appear are going to get special attention from the GAA at a national level. Counties the likes of Meath and Kerry are not. This is not having a go at these 5 counties, the performance of Westmeath (U21's and seniors) this year has been great to see, Laois have performed great in games against Offaly in last 2 years, Mount Leinster of Carlow have done great in club championship, Antrim are great for Ulster hurling and Offaly have a great hurling history. It just seems a bit unequitable to single these 5 out. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1346 - 30/06/2016 13:35:24 1874241 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "The whole thing is a farce. A Tipp man selects a KK man for the job. Why would they care about the weaker counties? They have no idea what it is like in a weaker county. Doomed to failure in my opinion and will cost a fortune" Good point but would like to think that GAA picked the best man for the job ignoring what county he was from ... Good luck to him . Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 30/06/2016 13:40:42 1874246 Link
We didn't get a penny from the GAA to try and develop and raise hurling standards in Kerry, the County Board on their own have not only come uop with the substantial funding but also helped create clubs in new areas such as Tralee Parnells who are doing great work underage trying to grow the game. While the powers that be may think we don't have the population to become a major hurling force in the long-run, I don't understand how the likes of Meath Kildare Wicklow who have rapidly growing populations and decent hurling tradition haven't got financial investment like Dublin did since 2005 to try and spread the game and have more contenders at the top table. KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 30/06/2016 13:59:20 1874260 Link
A full time hurling development officer in each of those counties would go a long way to helping Considering there are 50 full time GPOs in Dublin alone manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 30/06/2016 14:49:52 1874285 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "The whole thing is a farce. A Tipp man selects a KK man for the job. Why would they care about the weaker counties? They have no idea what it is like in a weaker county. Doomed to failure in my opinion and will cost a fortune" Paudie Butler (a Tipp man) did a lot of good work up & down the country. I know that Martin Fogarty is regarded as one of the top coaches in the country & has previously done work in Westmeath. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 30/06/2016 14:55:03 1874293 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "The whole thing is a farce. A Tipp man selects a KK man for the job. Why would they care about the weaker counties? They have no idea what it is like in a weaker county. Doomed to failure in my opinion and will cost a fortune" Best person for the job gets it in my book , in no place do you discuss the mans credentials to do the job , what he could potentially bring or not bring , you ignore that he has actually been given a job spec of which he would be judged . You comment on where he is from ?????? Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 30/06/2016 15:02:36 1874301 Link
Don't get me wrong I hope it works but I don't think it's the right approach. Paudie Butler did do a good job but it was an impossible ask at the same time. My own theory would be to appoint within each county and pay them for it. Counties needed to be grouped to have proper club matches also tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/06/2016 15:26:03 1874314 Link
Replying To manfromdelmonte: "A full time hurling development officer in each of those counties would go a long way to helping Considering there are 50 full time GPOs in Dublin alone" Sounds good but if they get it so should the likes of Meath, Kerry, Kildare etc.... bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1346 - 30/06/2016 16:22:56 1874349 Link
Replying To bdbuddah: "I see that the GAA have appointed Martin Fogarty as their new National Hurling Development manager and given him specific responsibility for the development of hurling in Westmeath, Carlow, Offaly, Laois and Antrim. I get the idea of the strategy they are looking at, firstly improving counties where there is a tradition of hurling but not to the extent of the main traditional counties. Makes me wonder how those counties were picked out above other counties. Being from Meath I have to wonder why my county Meath is not part of his specific responsibility. There are probably more hurling club teams in Meath than most of the counties he has specific responsibility for. There has always been a fair few hurling club teams in Meath and in last 20 years the population has grown a lot so could be fertile ground to further grow the game. I'm guessing the likes of the Kerry hurlers would be in a similar boat. It is totally unfair if the GAA is putting far greater amounts of central GAA funds/ resources into developing hurling in 5 counties but not putting similar amounts of funds/ resources into other counties in similar circumstances." I agree with you there Meath and indeed Kildare have good clubs, good numbers and I cannot understand why they not included. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 30/06/2016 18:56:34 1874430 Link
Replying To arock: "I agree with you there Meath and indeed Kildare have good clubs, good numbers and I cannot understand why they not included." Probably the county boards don't want hurling developing any more manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 30/06/2016 20:28:26 1874450 Link