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Fair play Seamus Callahan for saying what 90% of us all think, hurling and football is being destroyed by blanket defences it's time the powers that be do something about this cause it's brutal to watch and ruining the game we love. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/05/2016 13:35:03 1859316 Link 1 |
His name is Callinan and id wish Shefflin could pronounce his name correct.
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/05/2016 13:42:19 1859319 Link 0 |
*Callanan - how can Shefflin not call him by his proper name.After all these years he's still calling him Callaghan.Very poor punditry to not know one of our finest forwards surname.Would he like it if he was called Shellfin all the time.Sharpen up Henry!
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/05/2016 13:48:59 1859322 Link 0 |
Gaelic football in particular had a tactical awakening, which was broadly labelled the blanket defence. In reality it is following most other major team sports like soccer, Rugby and American football, and evolved into a "Tactical Systems" sport. And this will evolve further and further as time goes on. GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 27/05/2016 13:50:31 1859323 Link 5 |
Maybe in football, not in hurling!
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 27/05/2016 13:58:09 1859329 Link 1 |
Ah Gary stop will you ffs the best player in hurling is telling you it's dirt , games were bad back in the day but we never complained about how it was being played. 15 players in their own half is muck. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/05/2016 14:01:34 1859334 Link 2 |
Why am I getting "red fingers down" the best hurler in the game said it? How can Gaelic supporters love this style it's horrible clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/05/2016 14:14:07 1859341 Link 1 |
The teams that are good at it are enjoyable to watch - Clare and Waterford. hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 27/05/2016 14:18:06 1859342 Link 0 |
I agree hurling is a faster game by its nature and there will always be more scores then football. In football it is far easier to sit back then in hurling. The OP is engaging in a bit of hyperbole I think. GAA people in general are not used to teams sitting back a bit. I am surprised it did not happen sooner. It is up to the better teams to break the defensive teams down. That is the challenge. gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 27/05/2016 14:33:15 1859349 Link 2 |
Highly agree Gary. I for one much prefer football nowadays. The phrase blanket defence is a cliche now at this stage. At the top level teams are looking to defend in numbers but then also looking to break quickly with runners and trying to get scores in before the other team regroups. The best teams do this really well and it is a joy to watch. The problem only really arises when you have a team not breaking quickly, you have a slow dull build up. That is shocking to watch. I see that more as a problem with teams attacking set up. Should anything be done to reduce this tactical ploy. No I don't think it should. Let's leave the games evolve naturally. I don't think we'd have seen such great football from the likes of Dublin and Mayo over the last 5 years if they hadn't been forced into playing a more direct style to try to catch defences before they are set. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4172 - 27/05/2016 15:32:41 1859372 Link 2 |
Because this forum is littered with the self same comments from your good self over a period of years, dress them up differently but its the same old crap.
brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 27/05/2016 15:52:33 1859378 Link 5 |
Nothing at all wrong with blanket defence, done properly it is a joy to watch & in football everyone, Dublin included, uses it. What is painful to watch is slow, laboured forward play. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 27/05/2016 17:09:19 1859408 Link 4 |
For many reasons including this debate I would like to see the number of consecutive handpass reduced to 1 in hurling. It just might get rid of the defensive game and may even encourage some old skills back like ground hurling and doubling in the air. I would love to see it tried out at least. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 27/05/2016 19:40:10 1859437 Link 0 |
Hurling is not gaelic football, american
tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 27/05/2016 19:44:39 1859439 Link 0 |
really good posts whamm and GaryMc. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 27/05/2016 20:13:32 1859451 Link 1 |
I always chuckle reading the posters who consider themselves more mature and sophisticated because they enjoy blanket defences. For me, and I know a lot of people who think similarly, one of the great attractions of hurling and football was that within the 'war' of a 60/70 minute game there were 14 separate battles - this made it different to other team sports where you did not spend the entire game locked in battle with your direct opponent. Each individual battle could be speculated on and debated for weeks before a game with the argument on who would come out between Moynihan/Giles, Canavan/Lockhart, Lynch/Gooch, Lohan/Carey, Leahy/Finnerty etc occupying all fans minds. This now is almost a thing of the past in football and hurling seems to be moving similarly, now it's about which managers system will be most effective, making it more similar to other team sports. To lament this is not a sign of immaturity or a lack of understanding, it is simply people regretting the loss of something fairly unique that they loved about the sports. Many players also regret it because the key to an effective system is for players to stick to their role and not try anything adventurous or spontaneous, removing a lot of the creativity and enjoyment for players. It's no surprise that some of the most talented players in both codes say they no longer get the same enjoyment. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 27/05/2016 20:26:39 1859456 Link 3 |
I haven't used those thumb's up/down myself, must be a facebook type addition. Like I have noticed it recently, but was sort of confused of why to use it, as I normally just type a reply. I respect the fact that he and others will feel it is ruining the game of hurling, and there is no harm expressing that view. But i fear the real issue here is Clare recently beating Kilkenny, and this issue really had more to do with that. Team's that are really successful rarely seek change to the games format or style, and those teams are made up of players and former players who feel strongly about this. GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 27/05/2016 20:29:26 1859457 Link 2 |
I always chuckle at people from Kerry, who think everybody else enjoyed their years of dominance in the same way they did.
GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 27/05/2016 21:06:27 1859469 Link 1 |
Another load of nonsense from another navel gazing, pseudo Freud wannabe. The vast majority of vintage hurling and football games shown by TG4 were complete horsesh*te. Saying something and putting 'blanket defence' in front of gets the attentions of the dopey, nodding dog brigade. The golden era of hurling and football was as truthful as The Quiet Man and Darby O'Gill. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9688 - 27/05/2016 21:31:17 1859473 Link 0 |
Gary you seem to be having as much success with your geography as last Sundays score recording! Why would a Tipp hurler express his dislike of blanket defences because Clare beat Kilkenny? And I assure you I have no connection to Kerry, its just some from outside the Kingdom can recognise their achievements without bitterness or jealousy.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 27/05/2016 21:32:52 1859474 Link 0 |