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Thoughts? Westmeath had a very talented & well-prepared minor team who beat Wexford by a point & now a major review? Bit of an overreaction, maybe? Look at the Tipperary minor dual players this year. Some are saying that because they lost both finals it proves dual players at this level doesn't work. I say if you can get to 2 All-Ireland finals with dual players it proves it does work! keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 07/10/2015 11:53:29 1796702 Link 0 |
I think it is a good idea to be honest. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 07/10/2015 13:23:08 1796753 Link 0 |
If this became a guideline at underage in counties such as my own, you could forget about us fielding county hurling teams. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 07/10/2015 16:00:53 1796841 Link 0 |
slayer - young players get burned out by focusing on one sport too early. Its the wrong road to go down, keep as many players playing both as long as possible and enjoying the game. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1792 - 07/10/2015 16:13:56 1796845 Link 0 |
I think it is the sad way intercounty is going at all levels, but on reflection its probably right. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 07/10/2015 16:31:13 1796849 Link 0 |
That reports conclusion is not a bad way to approach this, players are choosing anyway especially with leaving Cert, it is better it is done earlier especially at county level. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4892 - 08/10/2015 10:35:11 1796994 Link 0 |
On the current Dublin development this years u15 there is 20 dual players out of about 50 , of the 20 at least 10 would be in the top ranked players of both codes , either way one code is seriously going to miss out . Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 08/10/2015 11:08:21 1797009 Link 0 |
slayer - young players get burned out by focusing on one sport too early slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 08/10/2015 11:25:31 1797020 Link 0 |
read between the lines Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 08/10/2015 11:51:37 1797033 Link 0 |
Disagree entirely with this proposal. Firstly it actively discourages dual players from an early age . And How is it enforced?. Once a young fella decides to play hurling can he not change his mind ? 16 year olds are prone to changing their mind now and again !! Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 08/10/2015 11:53:49 1797035 Link 0 |
read between the lines slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 08/10/2015 11:58:13 1797041 Link 0 |
Ah the old chestnut from Wexford. Trust me this is as old as time itself in Wexford, every time our hurlers struggle the same thing comes out "its football lads, thats the problem im telling ye its football" only this time they actually got a committee to come up with it. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1304 - 08/10/2015 11:59:34 1797044 Link 0 |
It's exactly the same in Dublin, but in reverse, Liam. Paddy Christie, minor football manager,it is said wont accept dual players. Is that football bullsh@t so? flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 08/10/2015 12:12:23 1797052 Link 0 |
I thinks trainers/county boards who do this are only thinking of their own benefit, not the players. All dual players, especially at that age would love the chance to represent their county at two sports they love, don't see why someone has to limit their opportunities. I'm sure the rest of our minor hurlers were delighted to have kilkenny, Lowndes, Costello, etc. On board to run Leinster and get to an AI final. Ok it was probably detrimental ti our senior hurling in the long run, but the GAA us supposed to be about a lot more than winning senior AIs flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 08/10/2015 12:19:14 1797054 Link 0 |
Just to clarify i meant to say we have had a previous chairman sending out letters to prominent dual clubs asking them to concentrate on hurling only rather than football or both. Wrong code typed. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1304 - 08/10/2015 13:11:56 1797076 Link 0 |
Totally agree with Liam & Tearintom. We have the same in Limerick, our hurlers were getting hockeyed and the footballers were rising and a ruling was introduced which prevented dual minors. The footballers improvement & having dual players at Senior Intercounty level was seen as the reason why our hurlers were performing so poorly. county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 08/10/2015 13:57:46 1797100 Link 0 |
Countyman and Slayer, as Limerick men, and I half a Limerick man myself, do ye remember the time the footballers were doing better than the hurlers, do ye remember that anonymous clown "man in the middle" writing in the leader? Basically saying Limerick needed to walk away from football, as it was hindering hurling, at all levels! Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 08/10/2015 15:07:45 1797144 Link 0 |
do ye remember that anonymous clown "man in the middle" writing in the leader? Basically saying Limerick needed to walk away from football, as it was hindering hurling, at all levels! And he was given a half page of the sports section to write this!!! slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 08/10/2015 15:37:25 1797158 Link 0 |
slayer, if u look up that game in cork on youtube, there i am on the terrace, me and my mate Mike, we are literally the ONLY people on the terrace that day in the ****ING rain. U cant miss us!!There was one Cork lad against the wall to the back but we are standing in the open rain on the terrace. It was a miserable day, but to be there to see Limerick, bear Cork, in Cork, in the championship, by TEN points.... It was a day I will never forget! Sheehy had corkery in his pocket all day. Some craic!!!! Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 08/10/2015 15:46:22 1797163 Link 0 |
slayer - for professional sports specialization does come earlier but I am sure you will find that even then most will have another sport they play - I suppose you would rather they play soccer. The issues with over playing youger players has nothing to do with playing both codes but all to do with over zealous club/county and college coaches who refuse to recognize the right thing for young players to be doing. The move of Minor to U17 and preventing them from playing adult will have everyone in uproar as all they will see if the impact for their team. Anyway if you are really interested in understanding what the impact of early specialization on kids and therefore how we should approach coaching there is plenty of research out there for you. Some of this is the change in the way the GAA coaching is now being taught. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1792 - 08/10/2015 17:01:24 1797193 Link 0 |