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Wow this is big.

No question

It's Cork Hurling Part 2

The GPA will need to get involved in this - if they aren't already

If the Mayo CB / Current management dig in their heels - it could get very messy

Will the players refuse to play and go on strike?

As I said... the GPA will need to step in here fairly sharpish

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20598 - 29/09/2015 10:17:52    1793410

Relax lads, if there is no confidence in the management and they have had a civilised discussion with the players they will probably walk away themselves. Nothing near the Cork Hurling scenario. The players held a meeting with a secret ballot, it ended up as a negative vote for the management and Higgins and COC met with the managers to discuss it, that is all we know.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7882 - 29/09/2015 10:26:22    1793415

Any speculation on why/what the issue is?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12115 - 29/09/2015 10:29:50    1793416

Flaker

It's player power and there's a lot of CB aul lads very set in their ways...

If they play hard ball... it could spell trouble

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20598 - 29/09/2015 10:36:22    1793423

The Jimmy McGuinness for Mayo campaign has kicked off on twitter... Think the players will want a return of James Horan and his caps.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 29/09/2015 10:37:00    1793425

We can only guess at present, but if it isn't right then it isn't right. You have to put faith in the group and there are some very experienced people involved in it. The players held their council until after the AI was done and dusted, they have picked the best time to act, they done it in the right manner, let's hope the rest plays out in the same vein and this will be resolved properly.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 29/09/2015 10:37:26    1793426

Still though, having the lunatics running the asylum isn't a great policy. And what of the next chap(s) to come in after Connelly and Holmes? No pressure like. Bad timing McStay taking the Rossies job, although I dunno, who would the Mayo lads on here like to see take over?

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 29/09/2015 10:48:37    1793436

Bit odd considering the amount of time James Horan got.. In reality they got just as close to an all ireland as horan considering they never looked liked winning the 2 finals they got into

Would be surprised to see Jim McG take the role considering his progression with Celtic and his history with Donegal

AthCliath87 (Dublin) - Posts: 345 - 29/09/2015 10:57:35    1793441

jimbodub
Flaker
It's player power and there's a lot of CB aul lads very set in their ways...
If they play hard ball... it could spell trouble


What aul lads jimbo? Any names? And what evidence do you have to support that these people are set in their ways?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 29/09/2015 10:58:35    1793443

All the experts and know it all's will be out in force now. What I have been told is the players have indeed voted against management with only 6/7 player voting for them. We heard rumblings earlier in year that standards in training/preparation/tactics had dropped but again I can not verify this and neither can anyone else...I suppose as you say no smoke without fire but most counties probably have the odd rumor flying around at some stage during the year.

I feel sorry for Noel and Pat who have been great servants to Mayo football. They will probably need to walk away quietly.
Who do we get next is the big question/problem.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11225 - 29/09/2015 11:00:11    1793444

jimbodub
County: Dublin
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1793423
Flaker

It's player power and there's a lot of CB aul lads very set in their ways...

If they play hard ball... it could spell trouble


Yes but we aren't there yet. Sometimes the cap doesn't fit and if the parties involved talk it out and come to a resolution then so be it. It isn't always a disaster. I was involved in something on a much smaller scale. We had a team capable of winning a senior county championship and had a manager whose heart was in the right place but he simply wasn't up to the job. Myself and another player met him at the end of the year and talked about all the issues. He walked away and the next year we won our senior title under new management. Of course it isn't the same scenario but if there are smart enough people involved willing to swallow some pride then the right solution can be found. I am not saying player power is the way to go, but there has to be some input.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7882 - 29/09/2015 11:02:44    1793448

All the experts and know it all's will be out in force now. What I have been told is the players have indeed voted against management with only 6/7 player voting for them. We heard rumblings earlier in year that standards in training/preparation/tactics had dropped but again I can not verify this and neither can anyone else...I suppose as you say no smoke without fire but most counties probably have the odd rumor flying around at some stage during the year. I feel sorry for Noel and Pat who have been great servants to Mayo football. They will probably need to walk away quietly. Who do we get next is the big question/problem.

yew_tree (Mayo) - 29/09/2015 11:00:11
Agree yew_tree,
It's the silly season for GAA at the moment so this will fill a lot of the vacuum for a while.Would have to ask who will get the job if the 2 lads go. It will bring even more scrutiny upon this Mayo side next year.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 29/09/2015 11:10:40    1793456

Yew_Tree its not just who you get but also under what circumstances , player power can be a very volatile thing , without a doubt the pressure on next coach is savage .
Don't remember to many Mayo posters giving out about coaching team at all this year , funny when you see the master instantly rallying around players .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 29/09/2015 11:12:29    1793457

themaster

Pure speculation on my part

Also with a dash of enjoyment :)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20598 - 29/09/2015 11:20:26    1793467

It's been coming for a while. Management team are not up to it in the players view. God knows how the county board will react.

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 29/09/2015 11:23:03    1793470

I like a good scandal...

Sure it's the off season we need something to slag off and row about...

In saying that
I honestly wish the Mayo panel well... I was a strong advocate of the Cork hurlers way back when

I think it's a progressive and correct move by the Mayo players.. lets hope the Mayo CB don't pull a Frank Murphy

But lest be honest - the Mayo CB aren't exactly a shining example... there's always some sort of negative news story

If they do play the Frank Murphy card... it'll get messy

How times have changed only a few years ago... this would have caused uproar

- PLAYER POWER...!! would have drawn out the GAA right wingers...

It still might

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20598 - 29/09/2015 11:26:26    1793475

James Horan says Mayo players need to relax and live a little.

Instead they spend a solid month procrastinating about what went wrong and decide to ditch the management. I reckon these guys are completely obsessed. Maybe it's a bit unhealthy, maybe it'll be what gets them across the line eventually...

Who's the likely replacement? Rochford?

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 29/09/2015 11:27:27    1793477

Its a shame the players didn't use their power to place the ball in the net more often.

worple (Roscommon) - Posts: 339 - 29/09/2015 11:29:31    1793479

Damothedub - There was a good few fans against the management from the way they were appointed. Look back on any Mayo forum and you will see that. Look I feel for the players I really do, they are putting in the effort and crave the All Ireland like us fans here. I also know one of the joint managers and know they have what is best for Mayo at heart. It is a bad situation but I am sure the players will have weighed up all the scenarios as lets face it they are a highly driven smart bunch not a bunch of u-16's pissed off with their coach.

I think Mayo posters here should try to ignore some posters who will love all this and will love nothing more than for Mayo to crash and burn this winter.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11225 - 29/09/2015 11:30:10    1793481