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http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-fogarty/john-fogarty-time-taken-for-free-kicks-highlights-need-for-hooter-in-gaa-341124.html HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 16/07/2015 14:43:38 1754368 Link 0 |
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Don't know what point he is trying to make really. If the ball is currently only in play for 33 of the 70 minutes, to get a game with the ball in play for 70 minutes a 3pm throw-in would finish at 6pm. Its things like this that justify not having a hooter, as a referee has the option of adding additional time if he believes a team is delaying the game where as the hooter clock just stays ticking down. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/07/2015 15:56:39 1754442 Link 0 |
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The hooter works well in the ladies gaa. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 16/07/2015 17:32:57 1754508 Link 0 |
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There is zero reason for the current system to be maintained other than to ensure that certain games finish a draw. Under the current system , the two teams involved in a game could make 10 substitutions between them, and this time will never be added on. Also, if two minutes is added on, the team in the lead can waste the two minutes without any more time being added on. GAA and soccer are the only two sports that leave time keeping in the referees hands. PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 16/07/2015 18:29:38 1754551 Link 0 |
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I see a video is now up on Hoganstand of the finish to the ladies league football final on Sunday. If a similar situation ever happened in a big game in men's football there would be some uproar. A hooter is good in theory but terrible in practice. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 02/05/2017 16:40:06 1983998 Link 0 |
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The hooter really ruins the end of a lot of Ladies' games in my opinion. A lot of people see it as some sort of panacea for the men's game but I disagree. It's very easy for teams to cynically slow the game down by fouling (clock doesn't stop for free kicks) the opposition and subtlety slow the free down. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13704 - 02/05/2017 17:53:41 1984019 Link 1 |
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Sometimes a draw is the most desirable result.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 02/05/2017 19:37:17 1984054 Link 0 |
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The fact is excessive time wasting is allowed for by a ref, subs, injuries etc but also taking too long to take a kick-out, free sideline etc The Hooter in ladies football follows the same pattern. It would be ridiculous to stop the clock for everything aka Basketball were the last 60 secs can take an hour!! The Hooter or count down in the mens game would lead to anarchy in last two minutes - not worth the aggro. If someone is in the lead and is taken too long with placed ball's stop the clock and book em for time wasting, if its the losing team well tough let the clock run. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 03/05/2017 11:42:26 1984174 Link 0 |
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There many on here who obviously haven't watched too much women's football if you believe their system is better, 4 minutes to go player goes down while losing team have a free two points behind , near three minutes to get injury sorted , point, and then an eternity for kickout to be taken , followed by hooter , in all 20 sec of play in last four minutes. No thanks Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 03/05/2017 14:03:23 1984233 Link 1 |
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Just a couple of points with regards to the time keeping issue .The ref in ladies football still controls the clock during games. He decides when the clock is stopped, be it to allow for injuries, time wasting or anything else. The only difference with the 'hooter' system is that everyone in the stadium can see exactly how long is left. As for the argument that teams will play the clock down, what do people think happens at the moment. How many times have we watched teams passing the ball around in their own defence just to play out the last few minutes of a game.
AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 05/05/2017 23:08:18 1984773 Link 0 |
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Australian Rules and Rugby do time keeping much better than we do. We should copy them. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 06/05/2017 10:34:05 1984792 Link 1 |
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How about once the hooter goes play still continues until the ball goes dead? the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 06/05/2017 11:46:42 1984800 Link 0 |
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I'm not sure if they do. Look at the recent France v Wales rugby game where the 2nd half farcically lasted well over an hour, or other games where the referee did not know the rules on when the game should end. It's just in them sports fans tend to do less complaining. By all means look at other sports to see what works well but what works in some sports will not work in others.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 06/05/2017 12:25:24 1984803 Link 0 |