Has it ever been done before, a minor all Ireland with Kerry in Sept 14 and a lenister senior cup with Roscrea in Mach 15, fantastic achievement.

kerryrowz (Kerry) - Posts: 833 - 18/03/2015 08:51:02    1703990

Could be wrong but think some of the guys in Munster have done a schools senior cup and all Ireland double. Not so sure about Leinster schools senior cup and an all ireland

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/03/2015 19:01:30    1704255

Who cares. Apart From one Or two skillful lads The rest are just bash merchants. Why do rugby snobs insist on boring gaa fans with facts about a minority elitist sport? This is a gaa forum!!

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 18/03/2015 19:31:59    1704271

18/03/2015 19:31:59
sceptical
Who cares. Apart From one Or two skillful lads The rest are just bash merchants. Why do rugby snobs insist on boring gaa fans with facts about a minority elitist sport? This is a gaa forum!! It was a fair question and no need to say that about the kids playing. To say the majority of players are not skilful shows a total lack of class.
And rugby isn't elitist

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/03/2015 20:07:44    1704277

Well done Robert, some achievement , hopefully he keep up the bit of football as well.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 18/03/2015 21:24:37    1704310

Well done Robert, some achievement , hopefully he keep up the bit of football as well.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 18/03/2015 21:25:48    1704311

ormondbannerman
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1704277 18/03/2015 19:31:59
sceptical
Who cares. Apart From one Or two skillful lads The rest are just bash merchants. Why do rugby snobs insist on boring gaa fans with facts about a minority elitist sport? This is a gaa forum!! It was a fair question and no need to say that about the kids playing. To say the majority of players are not skilful shows a total lack of class.
And rugby isn't elitist



OrmondBannerMan. How many times have a non fee paying school won the Leinster senior schools Cup?

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 19/03/2015 08:43:40    1704349

I agree with Ormond. Fair play where it is due. Call them Elite all you want but Roscrea had never won the schools cup before. In fact they won the all ireland colleges B Hurling about 15 years ago with John O'Brien(Tipp) and Redmond Barry(Wexford) in their ranks. Traditionally a school that plays all sports rather than focus on Rugby alone. Should be encouraged across all schools.

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 19/03/2015 09:46:28    1704361

DLS Churchtown are the only non fee paying school to win the Senior cup in Leinster. But then again Blackrock have won twice as many as all the rest combined so hard to break into that kind of dominance.

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 19/03/2015 10:11:48    1704377

Question about Roscrea and them playing in the Leinster competition. When I saw that they won Leinster my immediate thought was is Roscrea not in Munster so I went on to the net and thanks to Wiki it explained the whole playing fields etc being in Leinster/Offaly even though the address is Tipp. Would Leinster be seen as a more prestigious competition to win than Munster in the schools competition or why did they elect to go in to that competition rather than Munster?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/03/2015 10:12:28    1704378

sceptical County: Cavan
Why do rugby snobs insist on boring gaa fans with facts about a minority elitist sport? This is a gaa forum!!

one its a gaa related question and two if rugby is an elitist sport then please name one club in ireland that have stopped anyone becoming a player/member/attending a game because of their social class - i have played and attended matches all over ireland and never had a problem

Limericks Conor Fitzgerald played in all ireland minor final last year and for ard scoil in munster schools final
Fantastic achievement by Rob and well done all

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/03/2015 11:11:31    1704401

sceptical
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It had to be said!
I'm sure the lad is a good sportsman but rugger and school's rugger in particular is elitist, apart from that it's pretty awful to watch.

rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts: 305 - 19/03/2015 11:56:07    1704422

19/03/2015 08:43:40 uibhfhaili1986
Ormond. How many times have a non fee paying school won the Leinster senior schools Cup? Very few but no school has ever been stopped from competing in a schools cup and the schools cups that get all the media attention or the top ranked competition of many levels that start back in september
19/03/2015 09:46:28 jpcampion
I agree with Ormond. Fair play where it is due. Call them Elite all you want but Roscrea had never won the schools cup before. In fact they won the all ireland colleges B Hurling about 15 years ago with John O'Brien(Tipp) and Redmond Barry(Wexford) in their ranks. Traditionally a school that plays all sports rather than focus on Rugby alone. Should be encouraged across all schools. They are also in a hurling final in Leinster this year as well AFAIK
19/03/2015 10:12:28 Offside_Rule
Question about Roscrea and them playing in the Leinster competition. When I saw that they won Leinster my immediate thought was is Roscrea not in Munster so I went on to the net and thanks to Wiki it explained the whole playing fields etc being in Leinster/Offaly even though the address is Tipp. Would Leinster be seen as a more prestigious competition to win than Munster in the schools competition or why did they elect to go in to that competition rather than Munster? They play in Leinster as they are in Leinster and the Leinster competition is harder to win and standard is higher there
19/03/2015 11:56:07 rcarragh
sceptical It had to be said!
I'm sure the lad is a good sportsman but rugger and school's rugger in particular is elitist, apart from that it's pretty awful to watch And you and other anti rugby posters are actually acting more arrogant and snobbish by all the poor cracks at rugby than virtually all rugby supporters. Rarely see rugby supporters online dismissing GAA like the GAA lads do to rugby.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/03/2015 12:41:01    1704447

Offside,

Schools Rugby in Leinster is restricted to fee paying private schools. I would say that having a Leinster schools cup win on your CV going for a job in some of the banking/financial institutes bodes well as the executives of these institutes don't send their kids to your local CBS.

The last time I checked Roscrea was in Tipp and Tipp was in Munster. Yes it could very well be a status/prestige thing.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 19/03/2015 13:01:34    1704456

Cheers Ormond - they should look at getting their address changed as they aren't Roscrea/Tipperary at all if they are in Offaly.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/03/2015 13:06:23    1704458

Schools Rugby in Leinster is restricted to fee paying private schools. I would say that having a Leinster schools cup win on your CV going for a job in some of the banking/financial institutes bodes well as the executives of these institutes don't send their kids to your local CBS.

The last time I checked Roscrea was in Tipp and Tipp was in Munster. Yes it could very well be a status/prestige thing.

Everyday is a school day Daytona - didn't realise that it was that elitist in Leinster if thats right about only fee paying schools. I also never realised there were so many private schools in the South until recently.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/03/2015 13:12:30    1704461

rcarragh
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1704422 sceptical
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It had to be said!
I'm sure the lad is a good sportsman but rugger and school's rugger in particular is elitist, apart from that it's pretty awful to watch.
I'm no big fan of rugby but I watched the end of the schools final the other day and it was a lot better to watch than both club finals from Croke Park that I had sat through.
Apart from that the original post was just to congratulate the young lad on a great personal acheivement,so fair play to him, not to spark the usual debate about which sport is elitist and which isn't.

AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 19/03/2015 13:15:22    1704463

19/03/2015 13:01:34
daytona11
Offside, Schools Rugby in Leinster is restricted to fee paying private schools. I would say that having a Leinster schools cup win on your CV going for a job in some of the banking/financial institutes bodes well as the executives of these institutes don't send their kids to your local CBS.
The last time I checked Roscrea was in Tipp and Tipp was in Munster. Yes it could very well be a status/prestige thing. How is schools rugby in Leinster restricted to fee paying private schools?
You do realise the cups that get the media attention are simply the culmination of several months competitions at various levels.
The actual School, Cistercian Roscrea is in Leinster and that is why they play in Leinster. Nothing to do with status/prestige
19/03/2015 13:06:23 Offside_Rule
Cheers Ormond - they should look at getting their address changed as they aren't Roscrea/Tipperary at all if they are in Offaly.
That's the way the postal system works why would that change.
19/03/2015 13:12:30
Offside_Rule
Everyday is a school day Daytona - didn't realise that it was that elitist in Leinster if thats right about only fee paying schools. I also never realised there were so many private schools in the South until recently. That post from Daytona isn't true

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/03/2015 13:37:39    1704473

Then the postal system needs to change Ormond. If its in Offaly and Leinster then it can't also be in Roscrea, Tipperary which is in Munster.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/03/2015 14:23:07    1704487

Ormond,

Name 10 pure public community schools in Leinster that enter the senior schools cup?

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 19/03/2015 14:36:04    1704491