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We are hearing a lot about how adept a tactician and manager EF is, and most of it is quite deserved. He seems a good manager who can get guys playing well and I have to say I have a lot of time for him. The latest guy we have seen row in behind him is brolly, who seems to have found his new team to follow in the last day or two, and praised him highly for Kerry's performance the last day. However, it is worth keeping in mind that this tactical mastermind had his team 5 points up and a man up, with a full half to play, and needed to rely on a hit and hope last minute bomb into the square to even get a draw. Now it turned out to be a fine ball in, but how often can you guarantee that kind of quality in a ball like that? If it was james horan in that position, he would be getting absolutely pillared right now. 'Why didn't freeman(donaghy) start?' 'Andy moran (Dec o'sullivan) done nothing when he came on', 'the mayo management simply couldn't handle o'donoghue (cillian O'Connor), why didn't they change things to stop Kerry coming back? Now dont get me wrong, I don't buy into any of that waffle. Things happen in games, some things go right some don't and some you get lucky with, managers don't have the magic wand that some people seem to think. I just want to highlight how a perception going into an event, affects people's take on the actual event. TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 27/08/2014 13:14:38 1642923 Link 0 |
Yerra Master as a Kerryman, I'd be actually worried any time Brolly starts to praise anything to do with us! His just playing to the gallery, he was on radio Kerry after all and wanted to give the impression (or maybe he has genuinely come around to opinion)that he thinks Kerry might have the better chance the next day. Personally that fella has contradicted himself so many times there is no point following what he says. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 27/08/2014 13:59:45 1642970 Link 0 |
Horan is at the bottom of the iceberg right now with his team, while EF is at the tip with a new team. Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 27/08/2014 14:10:04 1642980 Link 0 |
James Horan receives too much criticism IMO ; Shane Curran was very harsh on him a few days back ! TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 27/08/2014 14:47:58 1643016 Link 0 |
We all know how the GAA works. You win by a point and the Manager is clueless and the players have no bottle, you win by a point and the manger is a Genius and all the players are brilliant. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1091 - 27/08/2014 17:14:54 1643126 Link 0 |
However, it is worth keeping in mind that this tactical mastermind had his team 5 points up and a man up, with a full half to play waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 27/08/2014 17:42:40 1643150 Link 0 |
The 3rd quarter the last day is a reflection of Kerry still being in transition. It was the same in the semi-final the year before. Fair play to the opposition again on both days but from our point of view, it's natural enough we'll look at our own mistakes. Both 3rd quarters saw a lot of naivety on our part. In both games we did recover from the poor quarter however. We missed a vital point in the last minute and the capital duly punished the mistake with two clinically taken goals. The last day again, we fought back again. What had a part in both games being classified as great is the way the momentum swung one way and then another with the games very much in the melting pot going in to the last minute. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7755 - 27/08/2014 18:00:16 1643158 Link 0 |
its going to be a big test of his ability in next few years rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 27/08/2014 18:01:08 1643159 Link 0 |
It appears to me that when Mayo dispensed with their tactics and let loose, they shone! realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8571 - 27/08/2014 18:15:39 1643166 Link 0 |
Good point realdub. Both teams only started to play when their backs were against the wall. hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 27/08/2014 18:41:04 1643177 Link 0 |
When i mentioned in my post before last Sundays game that Donaghy might start wfkerry (USA) - Posts: 933 - 27/08/2014 20:40:55 1643214 Link 0 |
Star did great for the goal. No matter that Cafferkey is a poor fullback who didn't put a glove on when it was obvious what Donaghy was there to do. He would have still win that ball and laid it off against a more physical No. 3. Mightn't have been from the Hollywood blockbuster school of tactics but Fitzmaurice knew rightly what would happen. Credit O'Donoghue too for taking the ball and burying it. It's a tactic we rarely use if things are tight in the second half, putting the big man into the square. Probably because it's not been practiced so much and O'Shea ir Barry Moran wouldn't be half as effective at as Donaghy. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 27/08/2014 21:59:31 1643264 Link 0 |
I feel David Moran was the main man in Kerry's recovery from certain defeat. Not alone did he shrug off Seamie O Shea ( no mean feat) but had the strength and football skill to land a hail mary on top of the Star. Mayo need a plan other than Cafferky when Star is introduced in Limerick, as he surely will. JackMurphy (Cork) - Posts: 30 - 28/08/2014 09:16:28 1643280 Link 0 |
greenandred, if he knew what would happen, then why didn't he bring him on long ago? And why did he bring him on in midfield to begin with? Similarly, you forget that cafferkey marked donaghy in 2011, and done well on him. TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 28/08/2014 10:04:08 1643299 Link 0 |
Ask Fitzmaurice why he didn't put him in full forward earlier. Thankfully for us he didn't. We did great with 14 men. If Kerry people want to ignore that then let them. We should better with 15 but we need to press home that apparent advantage. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7290 - 28/08/2014 17:49:18 1643658 Link 0 |
I was very impressed with Fitzmaurice, I think that he managed the players available to him really well to get that draw for Kerry, He had guys with a lot of miles on the clock, a lot of guys who are yet unproven at the very highest level, a number of players struggling with injury or form and he mixed and matched, brought lads on and off at the optimum time. I think Mayo have a team that have been together longer, and are in their prime and should win the replay with a bit to spare, but credit to Kerry and Fitzmaurice for taking them to a replay. NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 28/08/2014 18:57:19 1643689 Link 0 |
I did not have much faith in this crop of young Kerry players, but my opinion is slowly shifting. I thought this would be a period of transition for Kerry, and it is, but I actually think the period of transition will end much sooner than I thought it would. I now think that these lads are really good footballers, and have guts. Perhaps more so than other Kerry teams I have seen with more talent. Treaty_Exile (Limerick) - Posts: 386 - 28/08/2014 20:28:35 1643730 Link 0 |
Eamon has named the same starting 15 for Saturday , that's great that O'Briens is back fit and that darran is also fit again. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/08/2014 20:46:42 1643737 Link 0 |
Lads best manager in game. Good man manager, ruthless and can adapt to any situation. The best manager in game. Unbeating in 2 years in championship football HughHunt24 (Cork) - Posts: 841 - 08/09/2015 10:38:51 1784400 Link 0 |