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Now this is Galway's day and hearty congratulations to them. They have the best team in the country this year and very well done to them. However just watching the Sunday Game panel discussing the hurling season there were fellas from Leinster, Munster and Connacht all giving an opinion.
However i thought it was sad, and a bit of an insult to be honest, that there was NO ONE on the Sunday Game panel from Ulster giving an opinion or asked what they thought. The panel were all hale and hearty about "7 or 8 teams" and that "hurling was in a great state".
Ulster, Antrim, Down didn't even get a mention or thought and no one gave an opinion on how the hurling Establishment has badly failed Ulster particularly Antrim. Last night on YouTube I watched Antrim beating Offaly in the 1989 All Ireland hurling semi final and run Kilkenny so close in 1991 but tuning into tonight's Sunday Game one could be forgiven for believing the province of Ulster has disappeared into thin air.... and maybe some would just wish that! Thoughts?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 03/09/2017 23:40:52    2042378

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Now this is Galway's day and hearty congratulations to them. They have the best team in the country this year and very well done to them. However just watching the Sunday Game panel discussing the hurling season there were fellas from Leinster, Munster and Connacht all giving an opinion.
However i thought it was sad, and a bit of an insult to be honest, that there was NO ONE on the Sunday Game panel from Ulster giving an opinion or asked what they thought. The panel were all hale and hearty about "7 or 8 teams" and that "hurling was in a great state".
Ulster, Antrim, Down didn't even get a mention or thought and no one gave an opinion on how the hurling Establishment has badly failed Ulster particularly Antrim. Last night on YouTube I watched Antrim beating Offaly in the 1989 All Ireland hurling semi final and run Kilkenny so close in 1991 but tuning into tonight's Sunday Game one could be forgiven for believing the province of Ulster has disappeared into thin air.... and maybe some would just wish that! Thoughts?"
In fairness, the Ulster Council and some of the teams have shown scant regard themselves for the Ulster Championship in recent years. Wasn't the final played in February of the following season one year recently?

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 04/09/2017 15:25:30    2042584

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Replying To Gleebo:  "In fairness, the Ulster Council and some of the teams have shown scant regard themselves for the Ulster Championship in recent years. Wasn't the final played in February of the following season one year recently?"
30 years ago, there wouldn't have been a person from Clare on that panel. Now there are 2. You make yourself relevant.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 04/09/2017 15:36:35    2042586

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Now this is Galway's day and hearty congratulations to them. They have the best team in the country this year and very well done to them. However just watching the Sunday Game panel discussing the hurling season there were fellas from Leinster, Munster and Connacht all giving an opinion.
However i thought it was sad, and a bit of an insult to be honest, that there was NO ONE on the Sunday Game panel from Ulster giving an opinion or asked what they thought. The panel were all hale and hearty about "7 or 8 teams" and that "hurling was in a great state".
Ulster, Antrim, Down didn't even get a mention or thought and no one gave an opinion on how the hurling Establishment has badly failed Ulster particularly Antrim. Last night on YouTube I watched Antrim beating Offaly in the 1989 All Ireland hurling semi final and run Kilkenny so close in 1991 but tuning into tonight's Sunday Game one could be forgiven for believing the province of Ulster has disappeared into thin air.... and maybe some would just wish that! Thoughts?"
Firstly i can't remember an Ulster hurling senior game panelist since Ciaran Barr in the 1990s. You would thing Sambo McNaughton or a hurler of his ilk from Ulster would be one of the 7 or 8 panelists for the final.

But really there's a lot to fit into Sunday Game all-ireland final night. Trips to chat to the fans in both counties, then to the hotels and meeting players, managers and ex players. More analysis of the game as there's really only one senior match and it's an all-ireland final. The minor match analysis. Team of the year, player of the year, senior man of the match. Montages of the hurling year.

There simply isn't time to talk about Derry U21s, Ulster hurling, how Laois and Carlow are doing. The night is about the winners. It was Galway's night. It was a special all-ireland given the long wait to win. Tony Keady's sudden passing. Ulster hurling weren't the only ones not mentioned. Clare, Dublin, etc.

Lee Chin was outstanding all year for Wexford and he didn't get a name check for missing out on the Sunday Game team of the year. So It's not all about Ulster!

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 04/09/2017 15:46:02    2042588

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RTE s they truely supported Gaelic Games would have a 1 or 2 hour preview program of weekend games the Thursday before. Then they can give more coverage to the 'lesser competitions and games'.

Only place to see these is on GAA Beo but this is TG4.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 04/09/2017 17:10:27    2042629

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I would agree with the opening poster, i think Ulster GAA really does get a raw deal not just be the media, but the GAA in general there is so much untapped potential there to develop games up North especially over the border.

I look forward to the day when Down, Derry and Antrim could and maybe should be doing their own three in a rows, the potential is huge

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 04/09/2017 17:32:38    2042641

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It's as if Ulster doesn't exist!

True, and RTE have just recently cut out the 6 northern counties in their maps.

2setsofrules (Down) - Posts: 99 - 04/09/2017 18:33:58    2042670

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Ulsterman, no harm to you, your acting the maggot now. After Antrim got beat by Carlow in the Christy Ring you decreed we should just give hurling up. Now your faux outrage because RTE didn't mention anyone from Ulster on a day which was rightly focused on Galway and Waterford.

As an earlier poster said you make yourself relevant and thats what we'll have to do rather than feeling sorry for ourselves.

duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 04/09/2017 19:01:06    2042686

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What is this ulster you speak of

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8585 - 04/09/2017 20:03:20    2042708

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Replying To 2setsofrules:  "It's as if Ulster doesn't exist!

True, and RTE have just recently cut out the 6 northern counties in their maps."
That was one image on the Late Late Show.

Not exactly representative of RTE slicing the 6 counties off of every single map they use.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 04/09/2017 20:12:05    2042711

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What is this RTE you speak of?

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 04/09/2017 20:49:02    2042724

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Tend to agree with you most of the time UM with all matters Ulster and how easily you fellas are the forgotten men but seriously, how much coverage did you expect to get in the build up to Sam? How many years since Antrim were competitive and as for the notion by another poster that one day we could be celebrating a 3 in a row from Down or Derry........yeah maybe one day, but even if work started in earnest on an overhaul in those counties you'd still be a decade away from the top table. Sorry but there it is

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 04/09/2017 20:51:27    2042725

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The late late show map really made my stomach turn the other night in fairness.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 04/09/2017 21:15:06    2042738

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Replying To Laois76:  "Firstly i can't remember an Ulster hurling senior game panelist since Ciaran Barr in the 1990s. You would thing Sambo McNaughton or a hurler of his ilk from Ulster would be one of the 7 or 8 panelists for the final.

But really there's a lot to fit into Sunday Game all-ireland final night. Trips to chat to the fans in both counties, then to the hotels and meeting players, managers and ex players. More analysis of the game as there's really only one senior match and it's an all-ireland final. The minor match analysis. Team of the year, player of the year, senior man of the match. Montages of the hurling year.

There simply isn't time to talk about Derry U21s, Ulster hurling, how Laois and Carlow are doing. The night is about the winners. It was Galway's night. It was a special all-ireland given the long wait to win. Tony Keady's sudden passing. Ulster hurling weren't the only ones not mentioned. Clare, Dublin, etc.

Lee Chin was outstanding all year for Wexford and he didn't get a name check for missing out on the Sunday Game team of the year. So It's not all about Ulster!"
sambo isn't a yes man and will tell you how it is take it or leave it, plus theyd be beeping the whole time. the man just doesn't do subtle or suffer fools

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 04/09/2017 21:45:33    2042755

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Replying To MedwayIrish:  "Tend to agree with you most of the time UM with all matters Ulster and how easily you fellas are the forgotten men but seriously, how much coverage did you expect to get in the build up to Sam? How many years since Antrim were competitive and as for the notion by another poster that one day we could be celebrating a 3 in a row from Down or Derry........yeah maybe one day, but even if work started in earnest on an overhaul in those counties you'd still be a decade away from the top table. Sorry but there it is"
I'm not engaging in 'woe is Ulster' and 'I'm telling my ma on you'. I just think it would have been nice to have had an Ulster hurling figure on the panel discussing the final and involved in selecting Team of the Year. Recognition that the game IS actually played in the North, albeit not great county wise, would have been a good gesture from the Sunday Game and hurling Establishment.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 04/09/2017 21:48:55    2042761

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "I'm not engaging in 'woe is Ulster' and 'I'm telling my ma on you'. I just think it would have been nice to have had an Ulster hurling figure on the panel discussing the final and involved in selecting Team of the Year. Recognition that the game IS actually played in the North, albeit not great county wise, would have been a good gesture from the Sunday Game and hurling Establishment."
GAA needs a decent Ulster hurling side, just a shame there's none upcoming.

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 04/09/2017 21:58:31    2042775

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "sambo isn't a yes man and will tell you how it is take it or leave it, plus theyd be beeping the whole time. the man just doesn't do subtle or suffer fools"
Fair enough!! But they're must be someone from Antrim 1989-91, Down 1992, Derry 2000. As i said i haven't heard anyone since Ciaran Barr on the SG. I don't know who's fault it is..

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 04/09/2017 22:09:36    2042788

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "I'm not engaging in 'woe is Ulster' and 'I'm telling my ma on you'. I just think it would have been nice to have had an Ulster hurling figure on the panel discussing the final and involved in selecting Team of the Year. Recognition that the game IS actually played in the North, albeit not great county wise, would have been a good gesture from the Sunday Game and hurling Establishment."
Why would you have someone from Ulster..........a province were hurling is treated with disdain by the majority of its own county boards and its provincial council......we need real action not token taig gestures on the Sunday Game.........Antrim have as many hurling clubs as Clare etc so maybe we should look at ourselves up here first and what we need to do then looking for meaningless gestures on the Sunday Game.....

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 04/09/2017 22:13:47    2042792

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Ulster will fight and ulster will be right

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 04/09/2017 22:23:46    2042801

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Replying To Brolly:  "The late late show map really made my stomach turn the other night in fairness."
The map made your stomach turn? I would gave thought the content of the discussion that people in certain parts of the country die younger and are 3 times more likely to die of cancerveould have been more stomach churning, but no - let's all get upset about a map which detailed results of a Republic of Ireland census and which had no bearing on the 6 counties.

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 05/09/2017 00:02:31    2042835

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