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Now the county board are to discuss this tonight. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 15/08/2017 18:15:46 2033775 Link 1 |
Storm in a teacup. The lefties have been pushing this proposed ban for a while. What about the Chinese flag or the Soviet or Palestinian flags . These are dodgy emblems in my opinion. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 15/08/2017 19:09:54 2033806 Link 5 |
Why are Cork fans pretending they fly it because its red and white?? Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 15/08/2017 19:14:42 2033808 Link 0 |
The flag has no place at a GAA match. There is absolutely zero justification for it, given what the flag stands for. Personally I think anybody waving it should be thrown out of a ground with their flag. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/08/2017 19:21:41 2033815 Link 2 |
It's a disgrace no place for it
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4221 - 15/08/2017 19:43:05 2033829 Link 3 |
It is not and has never been political. Any nation flag with a bit of red in it has been flown in the past by Cork supporters. I can recall the Japan's Rising Sun, the USSR's Hammer and Sickle, Canada's Maple Leaf and even the United State's Stars and Stripes. There has been others on occasion, but I've forgotten what they were. Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 15/08/2017 19:44:47 2033830 Link 5 |
The PC crowd making a political statement out of this when the flag has been used innocently by Cork fans with a variety of other flags that have red in them for decades. Will they also ask for the flag of the Rising Sun to be banned next due to the actions of the Japanese towards POW's in WW2. Cork fans are not flying them to make political statements. We had the president of the Association suggest before that if things changed politically here the Gaa would consider doing away with our National flag & Anthem, in light of recent issues this week how long before we are asked to do away with it. The history of the civil war in the States & here are pretty similar & it seems that some want history rewritten & all association with one side obliterated. The history of most countries is not pretty or as in the States right or fair to certain sides, but it's there & was reality at a particular time. Trying to bury it will not change things. If the PC crowd start to discover that half of Gaa clubs are named after freedom fighters they might be forced by media & the political class to do away with them. If everything that offended anybody was to be done away with we would wrap ourselves up in a web of entanglement that would prevent people from doing anything. Individual thought & freedom of expression is been done away with by the PC crowd, once they get away with one item, they will zoom in on the next. Wait for the calls on our national flag & anthem to be up next as it will be linked with violence, terrorism, religion & offends others. Maybe we should have all Sligo flags banned as they have connotations towards ISIS flags & we don't want to offend anyone. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 15/08/2017 19:54:59 2033833 Link 4 |
Load of rubbish. Fly the flag as they've done for years, why stop now? Oh yeah, snowflakes! realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 15/08/2017 20:04:04 2033835 Link 5 |
I always liked that flag thought it was cool given at Cork games you'd see so many flags Japanese,Canadian etc but when in later years I found out what it stood for and I was quietly shocked. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 15/08/2017 20:06:48 2033839 Link 0 |
Its quite simple, the flag has severe racist undertones and when flown in the south of the US, that's what it represents, you can't justify it for that reason. Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 15/08/2017 20:28:44 2033849 Link 2 |
That's a ridiculous false equivalency there between the confederacy and Japan. The confederacy was specifically set up to protect slaveowners from the abolitionists. The flag is one of the most racist symbols around. It should NEVER have had a place in a GAA ground, even before what happened in Charlottesville. This notion of innocent Cork fans bringing it to matches. That's crap. Cork fans know about what that flag means, it's purely out of stubbornness and a two fingers to "the PC brigade" that they continue to bring it. They need to wise up. It's really not far off the Swastika as a symbol of hate. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4221 - 15/08/2017 20:32:02 2033850 Link 3 |
You'd hope that the Cork fans flying the Condeferate Flag are doing so in ignorance rather than making any wider political point. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 15/08/2017 20:34:37 2033851 Link 4 |
Nothing is ever as simple as your world MesAmis.
Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 15/08/2017 20:47:25 2033857 Link 1 |
sounds like a bit of a reach to imply cork fans are bringing it to make a political point, think theyv simply been bringing them for years..a few of the usual suspects were out on sunday looking for another thing to find outrage in as if a confederate flag ever truly belonged in a gaa ground alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 15/08/2017 21:07:02 2033879 Link 1 |
yeah and lets pretend that what happened during the american civil war was anywhere near on the level of the atrocities the empire of japan commited during ww2 and the years in the lead up to it..either condemn all flags of this sort or none at all...stop trying to find outrage in something that was completely innocent on the part of cork fans
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 15/08/2017 21:09:27 2033880 Link 5 |
Whatever about Cork fans ignorantly flying it years ago without properly understanding what it represents apart from being 'rebels', it is very poor taste to continue flying the flag now. You'd want to be living under a stone nowadays not to know what that flag represents especially after the riots in Virginia on Saturday. If Croke park stewards didn't do anything about it, it doesn't reflect well on Croke park either. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 15/08/2017 21:22:56 2033892 Link 3 |
So if loyalists are attending Gaa matches & start to complain that the Tricolour is offensive & oppressive to them & want it removed, would you agree with that ? Are you aware of something nobody else knows in that you are accusing those of flying the flag at Gaa matches as racists, some accusation on your part. Where is the false equivalency between slavery in the South & the Japanese in WW2, both kept against their will, forced to work, starved, tortured, murdered, detained despite the laws, very little difference, it just doesn't suit your argument. Nobody is condoning what happened in Charlottesville but if we are going to tie ourselves up in knots over everything that offends somebody then we become entangled in a web where nothing can be done. Labelling everybody as racists in order to silence debate is the action of those who themselves have an agenda.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 15/08/2017 21:28:34 2033900 Link 4 |
PS, white Irish were some of the first British slaves in the West Indies and North America: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076 Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 15/08/2017 21:36:12 2033903 Link 1 |
I quite like the bizarre GAA tradition of flying foreign flags at matches even if they have the most tenous of resemblances to your own colours. RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 15/08/2017 21:36:40 2033904 Link 2 |
I've often seen the Palestinian flag at major GAA matches, a flag which represents an elected governance who's attitude to human rights is appalling. Without going into detail on the horror It is particularly barbaric and discriminatory in respect to woman and gay people. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 15/08/2017 21:40:16 2033905 Link 3 |