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Patrick Horgan surpasses the great Christy Ring

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Think its worthy of a topic to congratulae Patrick Horgan on surpassing the great Christy Ring as Corks all time record scorer. Massive achievement. Congrats to him

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 09/07/2017 21:54:43    2013434

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He did indeed but totally different times. Heavier sliotar, had to be half killed to win a free, 60 minute games and no back door so less games played.
Great credit to Pat but there will never be any one to equal Ring.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 09/07/2017 22:23:24    2013473

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Replying To corkcelt:  "He did indeed but totally different times. Heavier sliotar, had to be half killed to win a free, 60 minute games and no back door so less games played.
Great credit to Pat but there will never be any one to equal Ring."
Not taking anything away from the great man but felt it was worth noting Horgans achievement

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 09/07/2017 22:40:33    2013500

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Indeed it was Brian & well done to you for starting the thread. Wasn't trying to be rude but as it happens there was a major chat about it, in the Pub after the game & I suppose I was just carrying it on from there. The few pints of Guinness I consumed didn't help my diplomacy skills either.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 09/07/2017 22:48:22    2013508

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He's a brilliant hurler, so wristy. But he shouldn't have broken Christy's record today as he should have been red carded for that dangerous elbow/butt of hurl challenge to the head of the Clare player. Has to be said.

KK1926 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 10/07/2017 00:02:40    2013573

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A colouous of a player said it before sheer class no one better than ring but Horgan is now top scorer from cork. Just needs that Celtic cross now the man is a genius roll on september

blackrockeddie (Cork) - Posts: 160 - 10/07/2017 01:21:00    2013608

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Delighted for Hoggie. The baton passes from one Glen man to another Glen legend.

It is only a couple of months ago that Cork supporters were calling for him to be dropped (and it happened). His response is a measure of his character. It is a cliche but class is permanent and form his temporary.

Of all his scores, the point that put us ahead in injury time in the 2013 All Ireland final was his greatest score and in my biased opinion the greatest score that I have ever seen in the sport. To execute that score at that time in a game using that technique was simply a joy to behold. Donal O'Donovan, his marker, could not have done more yet Hoggie still got the point. Ironically it was O'Donovan that got the following point to ensure it was not the winner.

Well as done Hoggie. Blackpool legend...up there with anybody that the club has ever produced

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 10/07/2017 10:57:47    2013813

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Replying To corkcelt:  "He did indeed but totally different times. Heavier sliotar, had to be half killed to win a free, 60 minute games and no back door so less games played.
Great credit to Pat but there will never be any one to equal Ring."
Ring got far more goals. Scored more from open play, and played for about 30 years.

Pat Horgan is an example to young hurlers. played for Cork in some lean years , yet his enthusiasm and drive never wanes.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 10/07/2017 14:50:18    2014127

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Replying To Brianmac78:  "Think its worthy of a topic to congratulae Patrick Horgan on surpassing the great Christy Ring as Corks all time record scorer. Massive achievement. Congrats to him"
I was comparing him to Sonny Bill Williams in the first half.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 10/07/2017 15:07:56    2014157

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Sweet mother of God. Horgan is nowhere near the league of Ring.

Every modern day star Hurling forward has this accolade for their county. It's because they play more matches than their ancestorial contemporaries like Ring, Doyle, Mackey, Keher etc.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 10/07/2017 15:13:05    2014163

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Sweet mother of God. Horgan is nowhere near the league of Ring.

Every modern day star Hurling forward has this accolade for their county. It's because they play more matches than their ancestorial contemporaries like Ring, Doyle, Mackey, Keher etc."
Ring had to deal with the Tipp Hell's kitchen full back line. He and Paddy Barry had some encounters with them.
Very few sending off's back then, even in the infamous 1961 Munster final.
Much less frees also.
Christy played for Cork from 1938 to 1962, and continued his club hurling to 1967.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 10/07/2017 15:33:42    2014192

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Not fit to lace put the laces in his boots, let alone tie them. But having said that, I am saying that based on folklore!

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 10/07/2017 16:05:05    2014219

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Replying To Pinkie:  "Not fit to lace put the laces in his boots, let alone tie them. But having said that, I am saying that based on folklore!"
There was no back doors, round robins and scorefests against the lesser lights in Rings day.

Horgan is a good hurler but far from great and lucky to stay on the field yesterday.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 10/07/2017 16:17:20    2014241

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Replying To Rockies:  "Ring had to deal with the Tipp Hell's kitchen full back line. He and Paddy Barry had some encounters with them.
Very few sending off's back then, even in the infamous 1961 Munster final.
Much less frees also.
Christy played for Cork from 1938 to 1962, and continued his club hurling to 1967."
Yeah, it was a vicious time to be a forward. Horgan isn't even Cork's best forward of the last 20 years. You'd take Ben O'Connor over him any day.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 10/07/2017 16:30:21    2014256

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Yeah, it was a vicious time to be a forward. Horgan isn't even Cork's best forward of the last 20 years. You'd take Ben O'Connor over him any day."
If there was a hurling transfer market in the morning I'd probably pick Lehane and Cadogan over him too.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 10/07/2017 18:19:20    2014351

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Ring was the best player in his generation. Horgan certainly isn't but he is damn good and he achieved something special and all people do is knock him. Give him a break.

He could have been sent off yesterday of course. He went to tackle the player hard and ended up catching the player high. The referee saw there was no intent and chose to book him for a mistimed tackle rather than red card him for dangerous play or deliberately trying to injure an opponent. People see it differently. If he got a red, then there could be no complaint.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 10/07/2017 22:45:54    2014581

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "If there was a hurling transfer market in the morning I'd probably pick Lehane and Cadogan over him too."
Agree with you Killarney 87 Ben o Connor was definitely corks best forward in the last 20 years. But Horgan is class as well far far better than cadogan and Leahane in my humble opinion so have to disagree with you on that one

monkstownrebel1 (Cork) - Posts: 351 - 10/07/2017 23:19:48    2014609

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Ring was the best player in his generation. Horgan certainly isn't but he is damn good and he achieved something special and all people do is knock him. Give him a break.

He could have been sent off yesterday of course. He went to tackle the player hard and ended up catching the player high. The referee saw there was no intent and chose to book him for a mistimed tackle rather than red card him for dangerous play or deliberately trying to injure an opponent. People see it differently. If he got a red, then there could be no complaint."
You see benny you can talk sense lol. Summed up perfectly

blackrockeddie (Cork) - Posts: 160 - 10/07/2017 23:44:50    2014624

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Replying To monkstownrebel1:  "Agree with you Killarney 87 Ben o Connor was definitely corks best forward in the last 20 years. But Horgan is class as well far far better than cadogan and Leahane in my humble opinion so have to disagree with you on that one"
Cadogan and Lehane play well regardless. Horgan is having a great season but he's had lots of disappointing ones, a bit like Pa Burke with Tipp.

It was an inspired move by Kingston moving him off the frees against Tipp. Scoring 4 or 5 points from play did his confidence no end of good.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 11/07/2017 01:53:30    2014656

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Lads I didn't start this topic to compare Horgan to Ring, or any other ex cork players, nor was it started to suggest he's the greates cork forward ever. It was started simply to recognise a fantastic achievement

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 11/07/2017 09:25:21    2014718

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