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What has happened to Dublin hurling?
They contested an epic All Ireland semi final with Cork in 2013, but were annihilated by Tipperary today.
Definitely, a massive decline in standards.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 08/07/2017 18:12:46    2012406

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Ouch - that is all

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8591 - 08/07/2017 18:33:46    2012414

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I think the venue had a lot to do with this drumming. Surely having it in a neutral venue would have resulted in a 15point beating rather than the 20+ recieved.

galwayfan (None) - Posts: 764 - 08/07/2017 18:44:42    2012421

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Replying To Rockies:  "What has happened to Dublin hurling?
They contested an epic All Ireland semi final with Cork in 2013, but were annihilated by Tipperary today.
Definitely, a massive decline in standards."
Ger Cunningham

AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 08/07/2017 18:51:49    2012426

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Cant be blaming the manager for everything....the players obviously not as good as they thought they were, no real natural hurlers and as for the players not making themselves available...no excuse its county hurling, should be proud to represent their county at the highest level, regardless of manager

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 736 - 08/07/2017 19:16:04    2012439

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Ger Cunningham has sucked the life out of the senior hurling team. Speaking to those in the know and they're all reporting the same toxic atmosphere within the camp.

Ger isn't solely to blame either as some players are basically going through the motions this year.

There is definitely potential in Dublin and Cunningham has massively failed to get the best out of it. The only thing we can take from today is that Cunningham is gone and hopefully the Dublin hurling revolution can get back on track.

Up the hurling Dubs!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 08/07/2017 19:22:21    2012443

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Replying To preddan:  "Cant be blaming the manager for everything....the players obviously not as good as they thought they were, no real natural hurlers and as for the players not making themselves available...no excuse its county hurling, should be proud to represent their county at the highest level, regardless of manager"
Personally speaking I'm not blaming the manager for anything, but the op posed the question 'what has happened to Dublin hurling', and whether you choose to blame players for not being good enough, or for not having any loyalty to the county team and ethos, or if you think Cunningham isn't up to the job, the catalyst for the decline of Dublin hurling over the last couple of years was the appointment of GC, and that's why I answered like I did

AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 08/07/2017 19:50:51    2012460

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Ger Cunningham has sucked the life out of the senior hurling team. Speaking to those in the know and they're all reporting the same toxic atmosphere within the camp.

Ger isn't solely to blame either as some players are basically going through the motions this year.

There is definitely potential in Dublin and Cunningham has massively failed to get the best out of it. The only thing we can take from today is that Cunningham is gone and hopefully the Dublin hurling revolution can get back on track.

Up the hurling Dubs!"
On the nail with your post

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 08/07/2017 20:40:21    2012501

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a lot of money being spent when other developing leinster hurling counties get very little

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 08/07/2017 22:11:00    2012590

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He's definitely not 100% to blame but he did axe a good few players prematurely which Dublin can't afford to do ,football's obviously the big draw in the capital but the hurler need to do everything possible to keep naturally talented players like Danny Sutcliffe on board , it's tragic he's not playing .
Sad to see Dublin Hurling go back like this.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 08/07/2017 22:38:33    2012620

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Replying To valley84:  "a lot of money being spent when other developing leinster hurling counties get very little"
It is nothing to do with money what the Dublin County board chooses to waste its own money on is Dublin's business and no one else's. Cuala are All Ireland club champions its Minor and U21's compete at the highest levels it is down to coaching end off.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 08/07/2017 23:25:05    2012660

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Lads ye can blame the manager, the venue, the alignment of the planets and anything else ye can think of, but the fact that there were senior club games scheduled to conflict with this game says everything you need to know about the attitude of the DCB regarding the senior hurling team. The manager has to convince players to turn their back on their clubs in order to play for the county. Set up to fail. Bloody disgraceful.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 09/07/2017 01:18:41    2012720

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Replying To valley84:  "a lot of money being spent when other developing leinster hurling counties get very little"
Yeah I don't mind tne GAA spending lots of money developing Dublin hurling per se.

I have a big problem with the hatchet job that was allowed happen to Dublin hurling after the money and time was invested.

Imagine how good Westmeath hurling would be with half the investment Dublin got.

The developing Leinster teams and Antrim had to beg the GAA for money a couple of years ago. It's not good enough.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 09/07/2017 02:26:07    2012738

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Completely wrong. The manager has to carry the can. It's a side show to blame the fixing of county league games. It's not ideal to do that but it's not the reason for the poor show yesterday. The venue was of course a disgusting decision.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 09/07/2017 08:52:05    2012780

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Lads who don't play , lads who wont play , no passion heart its a disaster we are going backwards which is tragic considering what's happening at ground level , we are at a good level at underage but not bringing it to senior , county board need to step in get a good coach with a bit of vision ,
Form a nicer orderly Q to kick us when we are down.

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 09/07/2017 09:37:56    2012797

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Ger Cunningham should definitely go. The atmosphere in the camp isn't good and at the end of the day it is about the players.

However, there are other issues I think and just removing Ger isn't enough to make that team All Ireland contenders.

The biggest disappointment for Dublin this year was going to 1B. I think they were unlucky as they had some good results - beating us for example. Now they will be in 1B with Galway and Limerick and it will be tough to get out. Yesterday may not be the low point for Dublin.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 09/07/2017 09:42:51    2012800

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Replying To festinog:  "Lads ye can blame the manager, the venue, the alignment of the planets and anything else ye can think of, but the fact that there were senior club games scheduled to conflict with this game says everything you need to know about the attitude of the DCB regarding the senior hurling team. The manager has to convince players to turn their back on their clubs in order to play for the county. Set up to fail. Bloody disgraceful."
Ya on hearing that club games were being played in Dublin was a disgrace. It shows a lack of respect to all hurling people in Dublin. It's just sad.
If club games were to be played today in Tipp with Munster final on the club games would be on at 12 or 7 tonight so lads could watch Munster final. It's a proper Gaa thing to do.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 09/07/2017 10:03:40    2012811

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Sad to see Dublin hurling fall like this. Talking to some of their fans at the game they need to get players back if they don't this current crop of players won't challenge for honours soon.
Some of the goals Tipp scored were school boy defending and wouldn't have happened if some experienced players were there.
Dublin hurling is better than its showed last 2 years and Cuala winning AI Club proves the talent is there.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 09/07/2017 10:14:18    2012818

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Replying To festinog:  "Lads ye can blame the manager, the venue, the alignment of the planets and anything else ye can think of, but the fact that there were senior club games scheduled to conflict with this game says everything you need to know about the attitude of the DCB regarding the senior hurling team. The manager has to convince players to turn their back on their clubs in order to play for the county. Set up to fail. Bloody disgraceful."
One would think from their action that there's an element within the DCB who are keen to obstruct the development of hurling in Dublin. Complaining about the venue, with good reason, and at the same time fixing matches that coincided with the game is unbelievable. Hurling is obviously the poor relation and all eyes on the money making bigger ball.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1794 - 09/07/2017 11:05:33    2012852

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To people from iutside dublin looking in wondering whats going on bht have no insight whatsoever in to Dubli hurling heres a few pointers.

1) look no further than the county board fixing a full round of league fixtures, hurling, to clash with the county hurling team fixture. Says it all.

2) There are around 6 hhrling only clubs in Dublin. 2 would have affiliations with the neighbouring football clubs as in player crossover. And 2 are soley made up of country men. So unlike codk galway clare etc we dont have regions which allows for constant playingwe share most hurlers with football.

3) a follow on from the above our most gifted hurlers are usually top footballers who all seem to choose football come senior.

4) Development squads failing in my view. On 2 issues. The one raised above picking dual. Ask 15/16 year olds straight out what the preference is and go with those who want to hurl. Secondly stop producing the same type of player over and over. Let kids loose who might be a bit sloeer over 100 meter sprints but can do something a bit different with a hurl.

5) No county would sustain the player loss that Dublin have and be competitive. Through injury walking away or being dropped the following 15 could have been but were not involved yesterday. Alan nolan Niall Corcoran Peter kelly. Paul Schutte Shane Durkin Joey Boland Mickey Carton. Alan mccrabbe johnny mcaffrey. Conal Keaney Colm Cronin Danny Sutcliffe Paul Ryan Con OCallaghan mark Schutte. Some side there.

6) lastly this thing about money. Its seems to be the be all and end all for country people towards Dublin along with population. Its one thing building hurling walls or having endless supplies of hurls and sliothars and getting people coached up. The majority of coaches in Dublin are parents with no hurling background coaching the sons team after a few coaching ckurses. Throwing out drills they learned in class. Doesnt work tbat way. We dont have people rared on hurling passing the gjft down. We dont have houses full of 4 year olds who live with the hurl in the hand. Ye cant buy that with the money.

We will get there though have no fear of that

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 09/07/2017 12:31:34    2012890

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