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After last sunday's scintillating performance by the league winners, they are surely the team to beat this year. In all probability will get a handy quarter final draw and even semi-final looking at the way things could pan out. They have a forward line that looks unstoppable. However on question I have is why was their foul count so high last sunday against cork when they were so superior to them?

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 06/07/2017 12:38:42    2011459

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Replying To Adamski:  "After last sunday's scintillating performance by the league winners, they are surely the team to beat this year. In all probability will get a handy quarter final draw and even semi-final looking at the way things could pan out. They have a forward line that looks unstoppable. However on question I have is why was their foul count so high last sunday against cork when they were so superior to them?"
Dub's leave the yerra, yerra stuff to us please.

A long, long way to go yet.

And getting a handy Q-final draw and no opposition in the Munster final hardly did us any favors when we meet Dublin last year. We didn't even play for the first 20 minutes we were so rusty!!!

Thankfully this year we have the potential of meeting Donegal or Mayo in the Q-final - two teams that can match us physically and in the fitness stakes, something Cork simply couldn't last Sunday.

So hopefully we should be given a stern test and we welcome it.

How can we hope to win the All-Ireland unless we show we can beat teams of this caliber.

For Kerry at the minute it's a case of so far so good - nothing more and nothing less.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/07/2017 12:51:47    2011466

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I genuinely think Kerry's free count is simply down to their intensity. They work incredibly hard for every ball, you could see even with the game over with 20 minutes to go last Sunday, they were still tracking back and flying into tackles. Fitzmaurice has instilled a great sense of purpose into these guys.
That being said, I think Walsh and Crowley are walking yellow cards, they commit some very sloppy fouls and tackles all over the pitch.

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 06/07/2017 12:58:41    2011469

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Dub's leave the yerra, yerra stuff to us please.

A long, long way to go yet.

And getting a handy Q-final draw and no opposition in the Munster final hardly did us any favors when we meet Dublin last year. We didn't even play for the first 20 minutes we were so rusty!!!

Thankfully this year we have the potential of meeting Donegal or Mayo in the Q-final - two teams that can match us physically and in the fitness stakes, something Cork simply couldn't last Sunday.

So hopefully we should be given a stern test and we welcome it.

How can we hope to win the All-Ireland unless we show we can beat teams of this caliber.

For Kerry at the minute it's a case of so far so good - nothing more and nothing less."
Mayo are the only team in the A side of the back door capable of giving kerry a game.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 06/07/2017 13:09:44    2011478

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In all honesty I can't see anybody beating Kerry outside of Dublin. Have a feeling this is Kerry's year, they look awesome with one of the most frightening inside forward lines, them men could get a score out of nothing even with packed defences.

I feel Tyrone have a chance of beating the Dubs if they are lucky enough to get that far but none against Kerry.

Checkers (UK) - Posts: 24 - 06/07/2017 13:21:43    2011489

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Mayo are the only team in the A side of the back door capable of giving kerry a game."
Well I won't be taking Donegal lightly if its them we end up drawing against.

I did that once before in 2012 (basing it foolishly on THAT semi-final with Dublin) and I'm not making the same mistake again!!!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/07/2017 13:22:03    2011490

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Replying To Adamski:  "After last sunday's scintillating performance by the league winners, they are surely the team to beat this year. In all probability will get a handy quarter final draw and even semi-final looking at the way things could pan out. They have a forward line that looks unstoppable. However on question I have is why was their foul count so high last sunday against cork when they were so superior to them?"
Foul count was high as this team is still in transition and it's early days for them to get those things right

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 06/07/2017 13:22:35    2011492

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Kerry actually looked poor defensively. Cork cut through them lots of times but they couldn't take advantage. Classy going forward but

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 06/07/2017 13:23:49    2011494

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Mayo are the only team in the A side of the back door capable of giving kerry a game."
If Mayo can get a good run going and gain confidence through the back door

They'll be hard to beat on a big match day in CP

But even at that - looking at them this year I just don't think they have the scoring capability to beat Kerry

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/07/2017 13:29:52    2011498

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A handy quarter final? If results over the next few weeks go as expected it will be a Kerry Mayo quarter final. The biggest threat on Dublins side of the drawer is Monaghan. I know who I'd rather play.

Forpucksake (UK) - Posts: 130 - 06/07/2017 13:54:40    2011508

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3 weeks ago Tyrone were the team to beat in the championship after hammering Donegal,
2 weeks ago Dublin took over the mantle after hammering Westmeath
After last week Kerry are the team to beat after hammering Cork!

All this tells us is the foreplay is still occurring and will continue for July.
The real stuff does not begin until August and then we will see what teams are really made of.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 06/07/2017 14:11:31    2011517

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Replying To Forpucksake:  "A handy quarter final? If results over the next few weeks go as expected it will be a Kerry Mayo quarter final. The biggest threat on Dublins side of the drawer is Monaghan. I know who I'd rather play."
I'd say Tyrone would be difficult in semi-final

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 06/07/2017 14:28:08    2011524

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Replying To Superglue:  "Foul count was high as this team is still in transition and it's early days for them to get those things right"
Oh so that's a valid enough excuse, that's good to know. Team in transition, hardly at this stage. Sure Donaghy, Walsh, Maher, Moran, Young etc., are hardly in the first flush of youth. Simple fact is Kerry have become cynical. Have a look at the stats from the league etc. Commentators never mention it though.

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 06/07/2017 14:30:18    2011526

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Well I won't be taking Donegal lightly if its them we end up drawing against.

I did that once before in 2012 (basing it foolishly on THAT semi-final with Dublin) and I'm not making the same mistake again!!!"
Donegal ain't the force of old and will need a lot things to fall right for them before they can even think about quarter finals etc. Meath could be awkward for them on Saturday night.

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 06/07/2017 14:31:25    2011527

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Dub's leave the yerra, yerra stuff to us please.

A long, long way to go yet.

And getting a handy Q-final draw and no opposition in the Munster final hardly did us any favors when we meet Dublin last year. We didn't even play for the first 20 minutes we were so rusty!!!

Thankfully this year we have the potential of meeting Donegal or Mayo in the Q-final - two teams that can match us physically and in the fitness stakes, something Cork simply couldn't last Sunday.

So hopefully we should be given a stern test and we welcome it.

How can we hope to win the All-Ireland unless we show we can beat teams of this caliber.

For Kerry at the minute it's a case of so far so good - nothing more and nothing less."
Donegal come on, they are a team very much in transition and if anything have lost their physicality with all the retirements and mayo as always will implode.

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 06/07/2017 14:32:40    2011528

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Replying To Adamski:  "Oh so that's a valid enough excuse, that's good to know. Team in transition, hardly at this stage. Sure Donaghy, Walsh, Maher, Moran, Young etc., are hardly in the first flush of youth. Simple fact is Kerry have become cynical. Have a look at the stats from the league etc. Commentators never mention it though."
Out of interest what was our foul count?

I haven't seen it printed anywhere.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 06/07/2017 14:52:15    2011536

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Replying To woops:  "3 weeks ago Tyrone were the team to beat in the championship after hammering Donegal,
2 weeks ago Dublin took over the mantle after hammering Westmeath
After last week Kerry are the team to beat after hammering Cork!

All this tells us is the foreplay is still occurring and will continue for July.
The real stuff does not begin until August and then we will see what teams are really made of."
Agree with your post - over past 3 weeks we've had 3 favourites - Tyrone, Dubs and now Kerry.

On foul count as much as people uligise Kerry football they've become one of the most cynical teams out there. They literally stop the other team from playing by hook or by crook.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 06/07/2017 15:21:54    2011548

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Well I won't be taking Donegal lightly if its them we end up drawing against.

I did that once before in 2012 (basing it foolishly on THAT semi-final with Dublin) and I'm not making the same mistake again!!!"
I will be incredibly surprised if we get to a quarter final. 2012 is a long time ago now in terms of this team. I am not talking our lads up or down, I am just calling things based on recent performances. I saw in kerry absolutely hammer us in letterkenny before they emptied their bench and take their foot off the gas. The semis are where Kerry face their first real test this year and that would be providing they face Monaghan or Galway as I don't think they can possibly play Tyrone or the dubs, if the provincial scripts follow.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 06/07/2017 15:30:50    2011553

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Replying To Adamski:  "I'd say Tyrone would be difficult in semi-final"
Definitely, it was your point that Kerry look to have the handy quarter final I was disputing

Forpucksake (UK) - Posts: 130 - 06/07/2017 15:45:56    2011557

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Replying To woops:  "3 weeks ago Tyrone were the team to beat in the championship after hammering Donegal,
2 weeks ago Dublin took over the mantle after hammering Westmeath
After last week Kerry are the team to beat after hammering Cork!

All this tells us is the foreplay is still occurring and will continue for July.
The real stuff does not begin until August and then we will see what teams are really made of."
Tyrone haven't been the team to beat since 2009.

There seems to be very little between Dublin and Kerry.

Tyrone, Galway and Kildare are still unknown quantities with regards to being serious challengers.

Mayo need to sort themselves out but I'd still give them the more chance of beating a Kerry or Dublin than the other 3 I've mentioned. They've given them proper tests in recent years.

Nobody else is worth talking about at all.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 06/07/2017 15:50:14    2011561

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