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SFC qualifier draw (Round 1A): Derry v Waterford (at Fraher Field) Louth v Longford Wicklow v Laois Sligo v Antrim (Fixtures to be played on June 17th/18th) SFC qualifier draw (Round 1B):* Westmeath/Offaly v Cavan/Monaghan Armagh v Fermanagh Limerick v Wexford London v Carlow (Fixtures to be played on June 24th/25th) What do you all think? Great draw for London who will hope to spring an upset against Carlow for the second time this year. Fermanagh too will look to do a number on a struggling Armagh. Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim)* - Posts: 1029 - 06/06/2017 10:41:35 1995430 Link
Wicklow v Laois That'll be interesting to see has Wicklow improved and has Laois gone down hill since they played last year in Port Laois. Hopefully a wicklow win Would like to see London beat Carlow again WW9 (Wicklow) - Posts: 109 - 06/06/2017 14:37:40 1995642 Link
The games involving Fermanagh v Armagh and losers of Offaly/Westmeath v Cavan/Monaghan both set for Sunday June 25th at 6.30pm,cant remember county games being set so late of a sunday before,any reason for this?? macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1097 - 06/06/2017 16:56:40 1995777 Link
Replying To macca999: "The games involving Fermanagh v Armagh and losers of Offaly/Westmeath v Cavan/Monaghan both set for Sunday June 25th at 6.30pm,cant remember county games being set so late of a sunday before,any reason for this??" You'd probably have to go back all the way to last year for that. The same Sunday aswell if memory serves me. Dublin v Meath was at 6.30 or thereabouts on a Sunday evening. Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 06/06/2017 17:18:35 1995787 Link
Hopefully Louth progress, they have decent players but came up against a green machine of attack on Sunday. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/06/2017 17:25:53 1995792 Link
Are Fermanagh away to Armagh? if it was in Brewster they'd have a lot better chance. if Armagh get beat again could that be the end for Mc Geeney? Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 06/06/2017 17:34:10 1995799 Link
Replying To macca999: "The games involving Fermanagh v Armagh and losers of Offaly/Westmeath v Cavan/Monaghan both set for Sunday June 25th at 6.30pm,cant remember county games being set so late of a sunday before,any reason for this??" Wicklow played Laois at 7:00pm last year in Port Laois Laois played Carlow in 2013 at 7:45 on a Friday night I personally don't like late throw ins WW9 (Wicklow) - Posts: 109 - 06/06/2017 17:35:46 1995803 Link
Thank God a thread not about Dermot Connolly , If Carlow play as they played against us I hope they get stuffed . Armagh V Fermanagh interesting one , will Gezzer still be there if they lose that one Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 06/06/2017 17:51:11 1995815 Link
Replying To macca999: "The games involving Fermanagh v Armagh and losers of Offaly/Westmeath v Cavan/Monaghan both set for Sunday June 25th at 6.30pm,cant remember county games being set so late of a sunday before,any reason for this??" Back in 2003 Louth played Cavan on a Sunday in the quailifers in Navan where the throw in was 7.00 pm. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 06/06/2017 17:54:48 1995818 Link
This was set up as a new thread but as the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here. Fairplayalways Posts: 87 Football qualifiers ok..so its the best we have for now for a long time...qualifers draw..those lucky enough to get a "weak" draw will probably get a third day out..those not will get a 2nd day out playing a team they play every winter in Division 3 or 4...a bit like the crumbs being swept from the table to the floor and let those on the floor fight over them..what use in them..ok..every few year a team will get abit of a run..what does it do for the county concerned..who will remember it after a few year..does nothing for the counties involved at all..I don't know the solution but these teams are only delaying their faith year after year after year.. Administrator (None) - Posts: 2274 - 06/06/2017 17:55:48 1995821 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Hopefully Louth progress, they have decent players but came up against a green machine of attack on Sunday." Cheers Royaldunne. Longford are a tough team to beat in the quailifers and have some notable scalps down through the years. They knocked out Down and Monaghan last year. Still happy with the draw and especially a home draw. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 06/06/2017 17:57:28 1995824 Link
Replying To Administrator: "This was set up as a new thread but as the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here. Fairplayalways Posts: 87 Football qualifiers ok..so its the best we have for now for a long time...qualifers draw..those lucky enough to get a "weak" draw will probably get a third day out..those not will get a 2nd day out playing a team they play every winter in Division 3 or 4...a bit like the crumbs being swept from the table to the floor and let those on the floor fight over them..what use in them..ok..every few year a team will get abit of a run..what does it do for the county concerned..who will remember it after a few year..does nothing for the counties involved at all..I don't know the solution but these teams are only delaying their faith year after year after year.." Best answer I can come up with is for the National League and Provincial championship to be played in parallel. I'd ditch the qualifiers. Play a good league competition in the height of the Summer. That'd be much more beneficial for everyone really. You could have the AI series only between the Provincial champions plus the league winner if they've not already qualified. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4210 - 06/06/2017 18:38:22 1995857 Link
Replying To Jinxie: "You'd probably have to go back all the way to last year for that. The same Sunday aswell if memory serves me. Dublin v Meath was at 6.30 or thereabouts on a Sunday evening." Yes the Dublin Meath game last year was moved due to the Ireland France match in Euro 2016,which made sense,however im unaware of any other sporting occasion on June 25th that requires a late throw in. There isnt any other Ulster fixtures even that day. For example if Monaghan face Offaly,6.30pm on a Sunday will definitely stop some people from travelling. macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1097 - 06/06/2017 18:54:55 1995875 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "Thank God a thread not about Dermot Connolly , If Carlow play as they played against us I hope they get stuffed . Armagh V Fermanagh interesting one , will Gezzer still be there if they lose that one" No it's not. Connolly should have been sent off the other night. When the game was 0-9 to 0-6, a 14 man Dublin v a 15 man Carlow at that stage might have made it a lot closer. We played very defensively, but what else is a team from the bottom of Div 4 meant to do v the All Ireland Champions? It worked well until we lost a man on 50 mins. Obviously we won't play the same v London. We scored lots during the league and 2-17 v Wexford in 1st round. The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 1114 - 06/06/2017 22:11:23 1996080 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Cheers Royaldunne. Longford are a tough team to beat in the quailifers and have some notable scalps down through the years. They knocked out Down and Monaghan last year. Still happy with the draw and especially a home draw." If I was Louth Ollie id play it in navan, just a thought. I think Louth play better in navan. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 06/06/2017 23:18:19 1996120 Link
Replying To macca999: "The games involving Fermanagh v Armagh and losers of Offaly/Westmeath v Cavan/Monaghan both set for Sunday June 25th at 6.30pm,cant remember county games being set so late of a sunday before,any reason for this??" That will be a long trip back for Monaghan from Tullamore of a Sunday night and work the next day. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 07/06/2017 04:32:46 1996155 Link
Replying To Administrator: "This was set up as a new thread but as the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here. Fairplayalways Posts: 87 Football qualifiers ok..so its the best we have for now for a long time...qualifers draw..those lucky enough to get a "weak" draw will probably get a third day out..those not will get a 2nd day out playing a team they play every winter in Division 3 or 4...a bit like the crumbs being swept from the table to the floor and let those on the floor fight over them..what use in them..ok..every few year a team will get abit of a run..what does it do for the county concerned..who will remember it after a few year..does nothing for the counties involved at all..I don't know the solution but these teams are only delaying their faith year after year after year.." what's the problem. It's a flippin knockout competition , or at least it's supposed to be with every county involved. Of course the best teams will progress and the weak teams will struggle. Are you suggesting that it should be the other way around. The league is a proper competition. I don't know why we in the GAA put so much emphasis on this stupid out-dated All-Ireland Nonsence. Now it would be fine if it was a complete open-draw every year and treated as a cup competition but they way it stands with these ridiculous unfair and un-equal provincial competitions feeding in to the all-Ireland series it's an absolute joke. The qualifiers at least give teams at least 2 games in what the teams niaively perceive to be the most important competition of the year. It's time the emphasis switched to the league perhaps have just 2 divisions and each county getting 15 games a year. Have an open-draw straight knockout competition running alongside it . s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 07/06/2017 04:57:44 1996156 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "If I was Louth Ollie id play it in navan, just a thought. I think Louth play better in navan." Royaldunne Louth do not have a great record in Navan in the qualifiers. They have played 5 matches there in the qualifiers. They have won 1, drawn 1 and lost 3. Win Ratio is 20%. Their only win coming against Offaly in Navan in 2001. Compare that to Drogheda. They have played 7 matches in the qualifiers. They have won 5 and lost 2. Win Ratio is 71%. Louth's biggest win in the qualifiers also happened in Drogheda two years ago against Leitrim. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 07/06/2017 09:41:17 1996225 Link