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Hopefully a Tipp win here. Will be a good match. Unfortunately I can see the ref getting an extra bit of money to get a Cork win so then a sell out will be in pairc ui caomh. Some very controversial calls will be made in the last 10-15 minutes I say. I'm going for a Tipp win still. Expect a great match.
Tipp 2+

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 04/06/2017 17:54:31    1994541

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Very different Tipp team to the one we saw last year. Tipperary will struggle I feel Cork in a no win situation following their performance against Waterford. Expect a better showing from Cork and they should win 6 plus handy.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 04/06/2017 19:26:43    1994604

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Very different Tipp team to the one we saw last year. Tipperary will struggle I feel Cork in a no win situation following their performance against Waterford. Expect a better showing from Cork and they should win 6 plus handy."
How are they in a no-win situation against Tipp? They would be happy enough to get any sort of a win I'd say.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 04/06/2017 19:40:28    1994613

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Replying To Gaillimh_Abu:  "How are they in a no-win situation against Tipp? They would be happy enough to get any sort of a win I'd say."
If they win everyone will talk about how much Kerry will beat them by. Where as if they lose everyone will be jumping on the their back again. Seriously there are great footballers in Cork and I think they can rack up a score against what will be a edgy Tipp defence. Comerford will be a bit of a loss he commands the back line,has a great kick out and when on form a great shot stopper.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 05/06/2017 00:12:12    1994808

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "Hopefully a Tipp win here. Will be a good match. Unfortunately I can see the ref getting an extra bit of money to get a Cork win so then a sell out will be in pairc ui caomh. Some very controversial calls will be made in the last 10-15 minutes I say. I'm going for a Tipp win still. Expect a great match.
Tipp 2+"
That really is a dreadful post. To claim that the referee will happily take a bribe and referee a game dishonestly is a new low on here. Why is it that players and management get great respect because they are amateur but referees and to a lesser extent administrators, who put in many hours for the love of the game with little reward, can be subjected to comments like that?

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 05/06/2017 12:18:30    1994942

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Very different Tipp team to the one we saw last year. Tipperary will struggle I feel Cork in a no win situation following their performance against Waterford. Expect a better showing from Cork and they should win 6 plus handy."
Cork haven't been a top team for 5 years or so.

They nearly lost to Waterford.I'm sorry but none of the top ten football teams in the country would almost lose to Waterford. There's just no excuses, you don't nearly lose to the second worst team in the country in the championship and be thinking you can stoll to a 6 point win against Tipp. They lost to Tipp last year too. They finished fourth in Div 2. They are dead flat average. This is not the Cork team of old or anything like it. Tipp on the other hand have had a semi appearance (which they really didn't do half bad in considering the level of opposition) and have just been promoted. They are full to the brim of pace and their forwards I think are very impressive.

Comerford is a big loss, you're right. In my view he was the best Keeper of the championship last year(above Clarke or cluxton) but I think they have more than enough in the forwards to do a job on Cork.

I'm not saying they Tipp will 100 percent win, the old Cork could show up at some stage and do a job ..........but 4/1 Half Time/ Fulltime for the TIpp win is fantastic odds against a hugely out of form and demoralised looking cork outfit; at least in my view.

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 07/06/2017 12:15:55    1996370

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Cant see anything but a Cork win. Comerford is a huge loss. Best keeper in the country last year and by some distance. McDonald and Austin are big losses too. Two of the most experienced heads on the team. Cork by 7-8

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/06/2017 13:04:30    1996417

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Replying To GameOfTyrones:  "Cork haven't been a top team for 5 years or so.

They nearly lost to Waterford.I'm sorry but none of the top ten football teams in the country would almost lose to Waterford. There's just no excuses, you don't nearly lose to the second worst team in the country in the championship and be thinking you can stoll to a 6 point win against Tipp. They lost to Tipp last year too. They finished fourth in Div 2. They are dead flat average. This is not the Cork team of old or anything like it. Tipp on the other hand have had a semi appearance (which they really didn't do half bad in considering the level of opposition) and have just been promoted. They are full to the brim of pace and their forwards I think are very impressive.

Comerford is a big loss, you're right. In my view he was the best Keeper of the championship last year(above Clarke or cluxton) but I think they have more than enough in the forwards to do a job on Cork.

I'm not saying they Tipp will 100 percent win, the old Cork could show up at some stage and do a job ..........but 4/1 Half Time/ Fulltime for the TIpp win is fantastic odds against a hugely out of form and demoralised looking cork outfit; at least in my view."
Very good post.

There is a lot of cute hoorism going on here from the Tipp lads! This game is difficult to predict.

One might predict that Cork will win because: (i) we have never lost two consecutive games to Tipperary in football. History doesn't count for anything during the game of course. However,the reality is Cork rarely lose to Tipp in football; (ii) we did lose to Tipp last year and as good as Tipp were, and as much as they dominated the game, they still nearly blew it - both teams scored 18 times - Cork were not great but still got as many scores (iii) bar possibly two victories, all underage games between Cork and Tipp have ended in Cork victories (v) Tipp, though they got promoted, still played in a lower league than Cork this year (vi) Tipp are missing some of their better players, something that they cannot afford.

On the other hand, you might predict that Tipp will win because of many of the reasons you outlined so well above. I agree that those odds are absurd.

There is no way I am going to say for definite that Cork are going to win. It will be a tough game but we have every chance. At the end of the day, this is a game between a top division 3 team and an average division 2 team. It will have no bearing on the destination of Sam this year.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 07/06/2017 15:35:39    1996534

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Very good post.

There is a lot of cute hoorism going on here from the Tipp lads! This game is difficult to predict.

One might predict that Cork will win because: (i) we have never lost two consecutive games to Tipperary in football. History doesn't count for anything during the game of course. However,the reality is Cork rarely lose to Tipp in football; (ii) we did lose to Tipp last year and as good as Tipp were, and as much as they dominated the game, they still nearly blew it - both teams scored 18 times - Cork were not great but still got as many scores (iii) bar possibly two victories, all underage games between Cork and Tipp have ended in Cork victories (v) Tipp, though they got promoted, still played in a lower league than Cork this year (vi) Tipp are missing some of their better players, something that they cannot afford.

On the other hand, you might predict that Tipp will win because of many of the reasons you outlined so well above. I agree that those odds are absurd.

There is no way I am going to say for definite that Cork are going to win. It will be a tough game but we have every chance. At the end of the day, this is a game between a top division 3 team and an average division 2 team. It will have no bearing on the destination of Sam this year."
Unless one of us beats Kerry!! Good post.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 07/06/2017 17:54:37    1996597

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Replying To GameOfTyrones:  "Cork haven't been a top team for 5 years or so.

They nearly lost to Waterford.I'm sorry but none of the top ten football teams in the country would almost lose to Waterford. There's just no excuses, you don't nearly lose to the second worst team in the country in the championship and be thinking you can stoll to a 6 point win against Tipp. They lost to Tipp last year too. They finished fourth in Div 2. They are dead flat average. This is not the Cork team of old or anything like it. Tipp on the other hand have had a semi appearance (which they really didn't do half bad in considering the level of opposition) and have just been promoted. They are full to the brim of pace and their forwards I think are very impressive.

Comerford is a big loss, you're right. In my view he was the best Keeper of the championship last year(above Clarke or cluxton) but I think they have more than enough in the forwards to do a job on Cork.

I'm not saying they Tipp will 100 percent win, the old Cork could show up at some stage and do a job ..........but 4/1 Half Time/ Fulltime for the TIpp win is fantastic odds against a hugely out of form and demoralised looking cork outfit; at least in my view."
I know where your coming from but Tipp are down quite a number of very good players and we don't have that depth to trouble Cork. Even if we were playing Waterford instead of Cork I'd be worried can't sustain those losses.
Will take an almighty effort to turn Cork over on their own patch.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 07/06/2017 19:33:59    1996634

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Cant see a ref accepting a bribe in this day and age or being offered one either.

I agree that the munster council will be hoping that Cork get the result to showcase the new stadium. It may not go that way though. I would expect Cork to have improved a lot since their last run out. It is a mighty strange state of affairs that a division 4 team gave cork the fright of their lives last week. Kill or cure time for their footballers this year.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 07/06/2017 19:47:38    1996639

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Replying To WildPundit:  "I know where your coming from but Tipp are down quite a number of very good players and we don't have that depth to trouble Cork. Even if we were playing Waterford instead of Cork I'd be worried can't sustain those losses.
Will take an almighty effort to turn Cork over on their own patch."
They were down a number of players last year and it served them very well. Sometimes necessity breeds the right dressing room and when the players stand up when this happens they tend to go farther than if they were at full strength.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 07/06/2017 19:50:29    1996641

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Very good post.

There is a lot of cute hoorism going on here from the Tipp lads! This game is difficult to predict.

One might predict that Cork will win because: (i) we have never lost two consecutive games to Tipperary in football. History doesn't count for anything during the game of course. However,the reality is Cork rarely lose to Tipp in football; (ii) we did lose to Tipp last year and as good as Tipp were, and as much as they dominated the game, they still nearly blew it - both teams scored 18 times - Cork were not great but still got as many scores (iii) bar possibly two victories, all underage games between Cork and Tipp have ended in Cork victories (v) Tipp, though they got promoted, still played in a lower league than Cork this year (vi) Tipp are missing some of their better players, something that they cannot afford.

On the other hand, you might predict that Tipp will win because of many of the reasons you outlined so well above. I agree that those odds are absurd.

There is no way I am going to say for definite that Cork are going to win. It will be a tough game but we have every chance. At the end of the day, this is a game between a top division 3 team and an average division 2 team. It will have no bearing on the destination of Sam this year."
Ye were convinced we were at the same before the hurling and we were proven right

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/06/2017 23:23:59    1996726

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Ye were convinced we were at the same before the hurling and we were proven right"
This is the game of the weekend in my eyes.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 08/06/2017 15:12:21    1996980

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Replying To woops:  "This is the game of the weekend in my eyes."
All the tv games are massively intriguing this weekend, Galway, tipp, Cavan and wexford will all be confident and capable of upsetting the favourites but equally all could ship heavy defeats....great weekend ahead.....hopefully!!

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 08/06/2017 17:02:09    1997024

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Tipp don't have a chance this weekend 10 injuries in all, we just don't have the panel to deal with this. I'm afraid we could take a beaten against Cork.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 08/06/2017 18:55:46    1997063

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Very different Tipp team to the one we saw last year. Tipperary will struggle I feel Cork in a no win situation following their performance against Waterford. Expect a better showing from Cork and they should win 6 plus handy."
why is it a different tipp this year?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/06/2017 19:14:24    1997072

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "why is it a different tipp this year?"
We are down 5 of our starting team from last year, 2 of them very unlucky not to get all stars and while when fully fit we do actually have nice depth and options this year we didn't last we have lost all that with our current injuries. It's purely down to the situation we are in at the minute. It's not cute hoorism or anything, we are just down bodies, nothing more

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 08/06/2017 20:20:12    1997086

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "why is it a different tipp this year?"
The team was named and numbers 1,2,3 never played last year. Austin is gone Liam Casey is playing midfield now. No Kevin O'Halloran his a vital free taker and also an important link in the forward line. Philip Austin is out also savage work rate and always handy for a few scores. Our full back line could crumble and our half forwards will have to get through an amount of work. Given the right supply of ball full forward line could do damage. Sad to think if we had O'Riordan,O'Brien,Kennedy and Acheson in the starting 15 I would be in doubt we'd take Cork apart. Four of best footballers in the country and 2 playing hurling and 2 abroad. I hope I'm wrong but if Tipp don't win Saturday the qualifiers will be difficult this time around unlike last year.
A home Munster Final is on the line if Kerry win and that would be amazing for these lads.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 08/06/2017 22:25:48    1997133

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in that case the rebels should really win this,although they are more than capable of messing it up. where ye missing some of those players in the league final?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/06/2017 22:36:24    1997138

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