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I expect this to be one of toughest matches this year. Very hard match to call. I expect a very hard hitting match because the winner gets into the Munster final where the winner will have every chance to win. Hope it's like the Cork and Tipp match. I'm going for a Clare win though as I feel they have more experience and players to pull the win. Can't wait for it. Clare 2+ oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 28/05/2017 22:05:26 1991642 Link
I think Limerick may cause an upset but this should be a belter. With Sky showing the game more fans should travel hopefully. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 29/05/2017 00:13:23 1991688 Link
Its a very tough game to call as traditionally there is nothing between Clare and Limerick. However, I believe my own county have a bit more about us than Limerick do. The Limerick forwards are IMO not as good as the Clare forwards. However, arguably Limerick have better defenders. Recent injuries are a problem for Limerick and I believe Clares defenders have come on a lot since last year. We did not conceed many goals in the league this year - only 3 in 6 games (Limerick conceeded 8 in 1B). Limerick will need to hurl very very well to win this one I believe. Confidence appears high in the Clare camp. The sideshow Davy has moved on and the lads have been left get down to work. Recent challenge matches have gone really well (although it means little) and we have racked up big wins against Waterford and Galway. All and all the camp appears as content as it has ever been in recent times. Tactically, it is almost certain Clare will try with 2 in the inside line to expose Richie McCarthy in particular. The player withdrawn (likely Reidy) will play a roaming role around the center forward line. Hannon on Podge is interesting. I cant see Hannon man-marking him and would likely try and hold his position while Limerick will also seek to bunch up the middle of the park. I think however, this would be a mistake and if I was the Limerick manager I would seek to man-mark Podge as he could do serious damage if not shackled. Expect to see a much much more direct Clare on Sunday than you would have seen in the past few years. Management trust these players and I expect they will deliver. My guess: Clare 2-20 Limerick 1-18 ps. I am hoping for a good referee performance. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 29/05/2017 04:05:56 1991694 Link
Byrnes and Hegarty look to be out which is a big lose. Plenty of things (and people) seem to pointing to Clare, but when Limerick are written off against one of their munster rivals they tend to show up so I live in hope. It's fair to say Clare have more established players and match winners with Limerick putting faith in youth aswell as a rooky 6 in Hannon. There could be 5 U21 forwards starting with another couple in defense. I think Cian Lynch and Nash could cause them trouble and I'm very excited about Peter Casey. I'm hoping these boys can replicate the performance of their young Cork counterparts! blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 29/05/2017 13:09:56 1991801 Link
From a Limerick point of view I think, actually I know, people will be surprised with our set of forwards on Sunday. Some of them saw very little game time in the league and have only started playing in recent challenge matches. Some of them are quiet young so there was no point in them slogging around in wind and rain in February and March. Since the loss to Galway in April they have been involved in all challenge matches and to be fair have put up massive scores. If the 6 that lined out in the last 2 challenge matches line out Sunday then we will have a stronger front 6 than back 6. I am not saying that on it's own will be good enough to win but what I will say is it won't be for a lack of scores if we are beaten. I am excited about Sunday as for the first time in 30 odd years we have players up front who can all make and take their own scores. And for what it's worth I think whoever wins will win with a bit to spare. Either Clare will be that bit further down the line than us or else we as a new team will improve past them and surprise a few people. mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 29/05/2017 13:34:31 1991810 Link
Replying To mike03: "From a Limerick point of view I think, actually I know, people will be surprised with our set of forwards on Sunday. Some of them saw very little game time in the league and have only started playing in recent challenge matches. Some of them are quiet young so there was no point in them slogging around in wind and rain in February and March. Since the loss to Galway in April they have been involved in all challenge matches and to be fair have put up massive scores. If the 6 that lined out in the last 2 challenge matches line out Sunday then we will have a stronger front 6 than back 6. I am not saying that on it's own will be good enough to win but what I will say is it won't be for a lack of scores if we are beaten. I am excited about Sunday as for the first time in 30 odd years we have players up front who can all make and take their own scores. And for what it's worth I think whoever wins will win with a bit to spare. Either Clare will be that bit further down the line than us or else we as a new team will improve past them and surprise a few people." Im excited aswell. The rumours from the camp are that Clare are playing a nicer more direct brand of hurling and that was evident in the league too. Hoping for a good game as 1996 was the last time I saw a really good c'ship game between these 2. Clare by 5. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 29/05/2017 18:38:49 1991915 Link
Would Limerick and Clare enter into a home and away agreement again. I remember 1991 and 1993 they operated home and away. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 29/05/2017 20:28:10 1991944 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "Would Limerick and Clare enter into a home and away agreement again. I remember 1991 and 1993 they operated home and away." Well Tipp went to Ennis in 85 and were beaten. The following year in Thurles Clare and Tipp drew. Clare immediately asked Tipp to replay the match in Ennis but for some they declined. There has been no home and away arrangement between Tipp and Clare since in senior and we should have no similiar arrangement with them either. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 29/05/2017 20:52:10 1991956 Link
Replying To WildPundit: "Would Limerick and Clare enter into a home and away agreement again. I remember 1991 and 1993 they operated home and away." Ennis is too small. Capacity is about 20,000 and only has a stand for a small few thousand of that. Rare enough any Munster championship game would have less than 20k at it so while Clare would come to us it's rare enough they would be able to accommodate the return match. mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 29/05/2017 21:57:51 1991979 Link
Replying To mike03: "Ennis is too small. Capacity is about 20,000 and only has a stand for a small few thousand of that. Rare enough any Munster championship game would have less than 20k at it so while Clare would come to us it's rare enough they would be able to accommodate the return match." Capacity was reduced to 15k a few years ago. I dont agree that anyone should get home advantage but I would be in total favour of filling smaller stadiums then say have a half packed Semple. Makes for a better atmosphere. The likes of Salthill would be a great venue for this game. Never will happen though. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 30/05/2017 01:41:18 1992005 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "Capacity was reduced to 15k a few years ago. I dont agree that anyone should get home advantage but I would be in total favour of filling smaller stadiums then say have a half packed Semple. Makes for a better atmosphere. The likes of Salthill would be a great venue for this game. Never will happen though." This is on a slightly different more and off topic a bit but why don't ye travel in numbers to championship matches? When we played ye in Thurles 2 years ago I'd be surprised if there was even 5,000 there from Clare. For such a passionate hurling county ye have a small core support. I've been to county finals in Ennis that had more at it than ye bring to 1st round Munster championship games. I personally don't understand it. mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 30/05/2017 07:56:46 1992019 Link
Replying To mike03: "This is on a slightly different more and off topic a bit but why don't ye travel in numbers to championship matches? When we played ye in Thurles 2 years ago I'd be surprised if there was even 5,000 there from Clare. For such a passionate hurling county ye have a small core support. I've been to county finals in Ennis that had more at it than ye bring to 1st round Munster championship games. I personally don't understand it." I am not sure specifically why Clare have a poor following. It pains me to see people crying in 2013 after we beat Cork when they hadnt been to a championship match since 1998. But thats what happens I guess when you get to finals etc. I was at a league game in Ennis v Limerick in 2011 and ye definitely outnumbered us. Didnt help that we were useless that year and scored something like 2 points in the first half and 6 in total. What you do have in Clare is split right down across mid west clare where on the westside people couldnt give a rats about hurling in general with some exceptions. All in all I do agree we are poorly followed at the best of times. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 30/05/2017 08:56:05 1992031 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "I am not sure specifically why Clare have a poor following. It pains me to see people crying in 2013 after we beat Cork when they hadnt been to a championship match since 1998. But thats what happens I guess when you get to finals etc. I was at a league game in Ennis v Limerick in 2011 and ye definitely outnumbered us. Didnt help that we were useless that year and scored something like 2 points in the first half and 6 in total. What you do have in Clare is split right down across mid west clare where on the westside people couldnt give a rats about hurling in general with some exceptions. All in all I do agree we are poorly followed at the best of times." Ive always found the west Clare people to be great supporters of the hurlers. However I think alot of people got fed up with fitzys game plan and lost faith. Our record in Munster and in thurles is shocking and maybe that doesnt help. I think that the attendance trend maybe reversed Sunday. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 30/05/2017 16:39:37 1992291 Link
Replying To ZUL10: "Ive always found the west Clare people to be great supporters of the hurlers. However I think alot of people got fed up with fitzys game plan and lost faith. Our record in Munster and in thurles is shocking and maybe that doesnt help. I think that the attendance trend maybe reversed Sunday." The core support that Clare have is very loyal but it's small. Fitzy said it's about 4000. The Munster final in 1995 had Clare's core support and no one else from the county. A Great day for Clare. Great support from Sixmilebridge, Cratloe and the West Clare crowd are good too. Ennis and Shannon....only a handfull unfortunately. Could be a good support for ye Sunday...cos Clare a hot favourites. Limerick will still out number ye 2 to 1. How Cusack Park will hold Munster round robin matches I do not know. Has anybody thought this out??...Walsh Park in Waterford is as bad....with a bog field. Home advantage is great and will generate bigger crowds bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 30/05/2017 18:23:43 1992332 Link
It's a sad state of affairs when liam rushes ankle socks are getting 3 times the discussion as this.. blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 31/05/2017 07:55:56 1992485 Link
Replying To blackspot91: "It's a sad state of affairs when liam rushes ankle socks are getting 3 times the discussion as this.." It's a good thing. Let all the focus be on Cork, Galway, Wexford et al. And Liam Rushe's outfits. And anything else at all that takes away any focus from Sunday. mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 31/05/2017 08:26:40 1992492 Link
Replying To ZUL10: "Ive always found the west Clare people to be great supporters of the hurlers. However I think alot of people got fed up with fitzys game plan and lost faith. Our record in Munster and in thurles is shocking and maybe that doesnt help. I think that the attendance trend maybe reversed Sunday." Funny that. The same applies in West Limerick. Big suppporters of the hurling team, but mainly play football. Even when the footballers were going well ten years ago they still had very poor support on Munster Final days. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 01/06/2017 09:55:34 1992913 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Funny that. The same applies in West Limerick. Big suppporters of the hurling team, but mainly play football. Even when the footballers were going well ten years ago they still had very poor support on Munster Final days." id agree with that - bar munster finals in killarney - but our football support is often poor janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 01/06/2017 11:06:00 1992955 Link
there is a fear in limerick we could be thumped especially missing byrnes and hego, and performances against galway have not been good, so its pointing to a clare win, I just hope we get a performance, i have seens all these lads numerous times playing club, county underage and inter county - we have an inexperienced side but they do have the skills and capacity to hurl well and perform hope we get a good support they deserve it with all the effort they putting in, be there to cheer us on - thurles alway a lovely spot for a game , parking is great there too janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 01/06/2017 11:09:36 1992958 Link
Big pressure on Clare am I right in saying last win in Munster Championship was 2008 v Waterford? Limerick without some key players but if they keep up with Clare I'd expect they might beat them. This Limerick team is a little unknown and that could be dangerous for Clare. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 01/06/2017 13:24:26 1993048 Link