National - Cork vs Tipp (Hurling)

Replying To therealtmo:  "Cork will have to come up with a complete different game plan for Waterford. The middle will be so packed the next day they won't be able to get the free puck outs they got yesterday. looking forward to the semi finals already Limerick and Clare should be a great game also"
Remember the league game this year in Walsh Park? Cork crowded out midfield and beat Waterford handily. I thought that was their best game this year.
I think Cork can grow in confidence...some tightening up and more man marking in half back line, and I can see real progress with this team.
Very good depth in the bench. ...Lorcan McLoughlin, Luke Farrell and Michael Cahalane.
I see Galway coming out of Leinster.....In fact will be hard to beat this year.
The Qualifiers will be a minefield.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts:215 - 22/05/2017 14:09:44   1989369

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Replying To Rockies:  "Remember the league game this year in Walsh Park? Cork crowded out midfield and beat Waterford handily. I thought that was their best game this year.
I think Cork can grow in confidence...some tightening up and more man marking in half back line, and I can see real progress with this team.
Very good depth in the bench. ...Lorcan McLoughlin, Luke Farrell and Michael Cahalane.
I see Galway coming out of Leinster.....In fact will be hard to beat this year.
The Qualifiers will be a minefield."
Waterford are waiting for this semi. If Tipp won yesterday I don't think they would of beaten Waterford to be honest. I think Cork will need a new game plan to beat them. It's hard going now for Cork, beat Tipp only to play Waterford, if they win that it's Limerick or Clare it's some hard route.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts:1197 - 22/05/2017 15:30:36   1989426

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "a brilliant game of hurling no doubt but the scoring now (of points anyway) is gone robotic almost...one score goes over a quick puck out down the wing a bit of a run and a handpass and another score..god be with the days when 3-14 to 2-13 was deemed to be a cracker of a match..which they were...the scoring I think is ridiculous now with loosing scores capable of winning any match (and winning it well) in times gone by..."
Totally agree. The ball needs to be 30% heavier. People will eventually cotton on to this. 2 pucks for a score is surely 1 puck too few. No points should physically be able to be scored from your own half. It's a modern phenomenon and that's progress but the equipment i.e the ball needs changing.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts:561 - 22/05/2017 16:11:51   1989446

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Replying To therealtmo:  "Waterford are waiting for this semi. If Tipp won yesterday I don't think they would of beaten Waterford to be honest. I think Cork will need a new game plan to beat them. It's hard going now for Cork, beat Tipp only to play Waterford, if they win that it's Limerick or Clare it's some hard route."
Yes totally different day against Waterford but then how good are Waterford. That Cork performance yesterday would beat anyone.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts:561 - 22/05/2017 16:15:00   1989448

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Replying To therealtmo:  "Waterford are waiting for this semi. If Tipp won yesterday I don't think they would of beaten Waterford to be honest. I think Cork will need a new game plan to beat them. It's hard going now for Cork, beat Tipp only to play Waterford, if they win that it's Limerick or Clare it's some hard route."
Same as 1966. Cork had 3 games in Munster back then.
1954-1966 12 years wait for Liam McCarthy.
2005-2017....same gap.
Place your bets now

Rockies (Cork) - Posts:215 - 22/05/2017 16:15:31   1989449

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Replying To therealtmo:  "Waterford are waiting for this semi. If Tipp won yesterday I don't think they would of beaten Waterford to be honest. I think Cork will need a new game plan to beat them. It's hard going now for Cork, beat Tipp only to play Waterford, if they win that it's Limerick or Clare it's some hard route."
1966...with essentially an under 21 team...Cork beat Clare after replay in first round (3-8/3-8 then 5-11 to 1-7)
Cork beat Limerick in semi final (2-6 to 1-7)...limerick had beaten Tipp
Cork beat Waterford in final (4-9 to 2-9)
Cork were lucky in first round against Clare...21 yard free by Justin McCarthy tied up game

Rockies (Cork) - Posts:215 - 22/05/2017 16:21:18   1989453

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "a brilliant game of hurling no doubt but the scoring now (of points anyway) is gone robotic almost...one score goes over a quick puck out down the wing a bit of a run and a handpass and another score..god be with the days when 3-14 to 2-13 was deemed to be a cracker of a match..which they were...the scoring I think is ridiculous now with loosing scores capable of winning any match (and winning it well) in times gone by..."
A strange complaint that there's too many scores! I remember A Munster final which which finished Cork 011; Clare 0-9. On the same day the takings were robbed by armed raiders (and Clare claimed they were robbed, as well!) I don't yearn for those days at all. Thank God we have better marksmen now.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts:491 - 22/05/2017 19:17:20   1989540

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Remember '66 well was at all the games.
Cork were very poor in first game against Clare, Cork crowd had just endured 11 barren years and it looked like it was going to be 12, with a first round exit.
The Guys I travelled with started heading for exit with a few minutes to go. They were not alone, plenty of red & white were gone. I turned back to see Cork awarded last minute free.My memory is that it was at least 30 yards if not more.
Justin had to go for goal as we were 3pts down with time almost up. It wasn't his best ever strike, Clare lad got his stick to it but it dropped down over the line & the rest is History.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts:4314 - 22/05/2017 20:02:26   1989557

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Replying To Midleton:  "A strange complaint that there's too many scores! I remember A Munster final which which finished Cork 011; Clare 0-9. On the same day the takings were robbed by armed raiders (and Clare claimed they were robbed, as well!) I don't yearn for those days at all. Thank God we have better marksmen now."
Get your facts right midleton. The robbery, both of them, took place in 1977 when Ray Cummins should have won an oscar. 1978 was the low scoring one.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts:412 - 22/05/2017 20:39:40   1989571

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The writing was on the wall after the league final when only poor shooting stopped Galway beating Tipp by 20+ points.No way should a team lose a National Final by such a margin.There was no intensity to yesterdays game, no physicality for want of a better word.Don't get me wrong it was very entertaining and some of the point taking was out of this world but there was no 'hitting' in it.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts:749 - 22/05/2017 20:54:01   1989578

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Replying To Condorman:  "The writing was on the wall after the league final when only poor shooting stopped Galway beating Tipp by 20+ points.No way should a team lose a National Final by such a margin.There was no intensity to yesterdays game, no physicality for want of a better word.Don't get me wrong it was very entertaining and some of the point taking was out of this world but there was no 'hitting' in it."
The GAA hierarchy have being pursuing a 'sanitisation' policy for years in Hurling. Shoulders are a once in blue moon occurrence. I feel there should be way more physical challenges in Hurling and dare I say it the third man tackle should be brought back.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts:561 - 22/05/2017 21:32:03   1989596

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Fantastic game yesterday. Was disappointed with our inability to vary the puck outs a bit more. Just bombing them down on the 20m line where Cork outnumbered us didn't work. Nash was excellent, both his saves and distribution.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts:2467 - 22/05/2017 22:47:16   1989628

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Seemed to be reasonably physical from what I saw on the highlights last night. Serious pace to the game...much harder to hit a fast-moving target than a slow one! Also, the ref seemed to 'let the game to flow'.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:3447 - 22/05/2017 22:47:43   1989629

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