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Yesterday we witnessed a fine game in CrokePark... but the result ultimately fell on a cynical piece of work by Kerry, pulling down an opponent as he goes down on goal. Now the Kerry man did the right thing , took the black card and Kerry won the game...................BUT no analysis of this in the RTE studio.... Sean Cavanagh was near lynched for doing this in headquarters against Monaghan, Ciaran Whelan said it was against the spirit of the game, but last night said nothing, Spillane said no Kerry footballer would defend like that, while Brolly went on a whole campaign against the player...... Michael Lyster said at the time that people don't pay into games to watch men being pulled down rugby style....... cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1673 - 10/04/2017 09:54:17 1977787 Link 5 |
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The Kerry player slipped and accidentally brought down the Dublin player. Unfortunate but not cynical. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 10/04/2017 10:14:29 1977798 Link 0 |
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Yea, and I suppose as he slipped he "accidentally" grabbed the nearest Dublin jersey ??
yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 10/04/2017 10:24:09 1977803 Link 1 |
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I'm astounded by that response! It was clearly deliberate and as soon as he got up he was on to the ref about moving back the free. He knew well he wanted to drag him down just out of range. The first point of this thread... RTE have lost the plot... their coverage is a joke. The format is from the 1980's and gives little insight into what actually goes on in a game. between moaning about championship formats and styles of football there is not time to talk about the actual game.. or even show highlights. Discussions on competition structures / football styles / retired players are all valid discussion points, but not every single week and not shoehorned into a one hour program which needs to cover 4 games. What they did to Sean Cavanagh was a disgrace, but I wouldn't be calling for them to do it again to any player. These things happen in games, move on. himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 10/04/2017 10:29:04 1977806 Link 3 |
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You're spot on CuChulainn. RTE lost the plot a long time ago. The hypocrisy in relation to the Cavanagh incident where the Tyrone man had his gender questioned and Anthony Mahers pull down drives me nuts. RTE is not alone in this. All the newspapers this morning basically ignored the incident which for me was the defining point of the game. Full of the usuall bullsh&t fawning over the Dubs and Kerry in what in reality was one of the most cynical games Ive seen in recent times. Same with the drawn game in Tralee in the league which descended into full out brawls. Again not a word about it in the media. Michael Lysters performance on RTE last night was embarrassing. Brolly gave a viewpoint on the Gooch which didnt fit the media narrative and he was abused for his troubles. I'm no fan of Tyrone either but the fawning over Kerry who are probably the most cynical ream in the country right now is nauseating. Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 10/04/2017 10:34:04 1977812 Link 3 |
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I thought Brolly was overly harsh on Galway and their performance. Give a team a break and give credit when its due. We are always putting down the GAA and the main people are lads who make money out of it. Delighted with Galway's performance. philip3 (Galway) - Posts: 196 - 10/04/2017 10:36:02 1977814 Link 4 |
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Haha...id be fairly certain his tongue in firmly in his cheek with the accidentally dragged down comment.....along the lines of Kerry don't do cynical play and the likes!! tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 10/04/2017 10:36:07 1977815 Link 0 |
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Sure you're always gonna try and foul outside the freekick range particularly when the game is almost over. Maher deliberately fouled the attacking player, no doubts about that. But it won the game for Kerry. Who would not be happy if one of their players did the same and turn the game in their favour? Nice guys finish last, unfortunate but true. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 10/04/2017 10:45:00 1977821 Link 0 |
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It was blatantly deliberate pull down. This is one of the weaknesses of the black card (until a sin bin is introduced I am in favour of BC as it is better than nothing). No advantage to Dublin with Kerry player receiving a BC. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 10/04/2017 10:57:02 1977828 Link 0 |
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Brolly, O'Rourke & RTE in general are harsh on everything apart from their beloved Dublin v Kerry matches. Constant bad news stories and running down the games / administrators / player / managers... the works. Small bit of positivity wouldn't go amiss. In fairness, it isn't just RTE, newspaper coverage also largely focused on negatives. People will say that newspapers have to fill pages with this stuff because they don't have access to players and managers anymore for content, and I can see how that would be a point, but RTE can hardly claim that what they have 4 games to focus on. GAA needs to get its act together on managing media and ensuring better coverage of its games. I for one think Sky coverage is a breath of fresh air and given the choice I watch sky coverage over RTE. They focus on the game, give a balanced review and actually analyse the game. Fair play to all teams involved over the weekend, they are all good news stories as they are all getting promoted. For years people having been calling Galway foolish for persisting with the 'traditional' style, and results have been going against them. I thought they attacked with serious pace yesterday... I was impressed with them himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 10/04/2017 11:15:48 1977843 Link 3 |
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the result ultimately fell on a cynical piece of work by Kerry, pulling down an opponent as he goes down on goal The foul was a long way out for starters, nobody was in on goal. Also there were plenty other similar instances of pulling players back during the game so the incident in question was just another moment in a game that lasted 35+2 minutes in the first half and 35+6 and more in the second half. The result of the game did not come down to one single incident in the game cause if it did then you could say the result ultimately fell on Rocks missed free kick could you not ? THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 10/04/2017 11:28:22 1977851 Link 3 |
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Cavanagh pulled the Monaghan player down and then held on to him when he was just yards from goal it'd looked allot worse then yesterday's it was pure blatant, plus it has allot to do with all the neutrals wanted Kerry to win yesterday but back in 2013 I think thats when Monaghan v Tyrone game was they were all shouting for Monaghan Kingoreilly (Kildare) - Posts: 77 - 10/04/2017 11:35:50 1977860 Link 0 |
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I can't agree that they have lost the plot. People went mad over the way Brolly/RTE treated Sean Cavanagh so did you ever think maybe they have learned a lesson? You can't give out when they do drag someone over the coals and then give out when they don't
turkeyplucker (UK) - Posts: 137 - 10/04/2017 11:39:27 1977864 Link 0 |
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Philly Mc Mahon was doing some fouling also do you not agree ? he made some weird attempt to box a player. That could have been seen as attempt to strike in some refs books. Also James Mc Carthy made a dig at Donnchadh Walsh. Fenton should have got a black also. It wasn't all Kerry. I taught to be honest Dublin started getting involved in off the ball stuff, that they normally let go. Not like them. But there no attempt at all to talk about the cynical play the most of it from Dublin.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 10/04/2017 12:43:02 1977906 Link 3 |
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but turkeyplucker........ rte never even mentioned it cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1673 - 10/04/2017 12:53:20 1977911 Link 2 |
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humour ???
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 10/04/2017 13:21:50 1977934 Link 0 |
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humour ??
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 10/04/2017 13:22:11 1977935 Link 0 |
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It is not just Maher, you will see this in any game and I have seen it loads of times. The black card is no deterrent in the dying minutes of the game. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 10/04/2017 13:30:12 1977942 Link 1 |
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I missed the analysis last night......did they review the penalty not given to Dean Rock in the last few seconds of game? There were multiple pairs of official eyes looking in that direction.
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 10/04/2017 13:43:11 1977956 Link 1 |
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The Sean Cavanagh incident was prior to the introduction of the Black Card to deal with such cynical play. Now Sean done what he had to do at the time put at the time there was no no punishment for such an act. The treatment of Sean Cavanagh by Brolly was wrong and over the top, but sure it got people talking so that made Joe happy. On yesterdays incident I was sure Dublin would have brought up Cluxton to take that last free as it was definatly more within his range than Dean Rocks. anto_meath (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 10/04/2017 13:47:07 1977961 Link 0 |