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I read this morning that the GAA, are considering introducing changes to the hurling championship in response to the amount of big games within the football championship. A super 8 would not work in hurling, as it would result in dead rubber games. It would seperate provincal championships entirely from the All Ireland series. I am not sure the Munster council would support this. I think hurling could have the same system as the football, however instead of the quarter final stage, start the round robin at the semi finals. It would mean big games continue prior to starting the grouo matches. Do people think this could work? sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 29/03/2017 12:44:25 1972724 Link 0 |
Why wouldn't Super 8 in hurling work? Why not Super 6 at quarterfinal stage so?
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/03/2017 13:29:46 1972737 Link 1 |
It would be a half baked way of keeping hurling in the spotlight. Nope , the only logical answer and viable solution is to separate the provincial championships from the All Ireland. It is inevitable. If the Munster championship is so wonderful (and I'm not saying that it isn't) it ought to be able to retain its status and importance as a stand alone competition PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1898 - 29/03/2017 13:30:10 1972740 Link 1 |
Why would a super 8 not work in hurling? A super 8 would work as well in hurling as it would would football. Where would the dead rubber matches come from?
Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 29/03/2017 15:47:28 1972815 Link 1 |
Lads, I looked at some goals from the 1990's on youtube and some from the last few years, the days of pulsating encounters in front of full houses in Munster are long since over. The back door ended it. Say what you like, the Munster Championship is no longer the attraction it once was. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 29/03/2017 16:10:42 1972831 Link 2 |
Under another thread, I put my 'Super 10' idea, where 5 teams in Group A play all 5 in Group B that also incorporates the 'Prov Last 5 games KO' in both Muns and Lein. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2535 - 29/03/2017 16:40:07 1972843 Link 0 |
More dead rubbers likely in football Super 8s.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/03/2017 16:40:48 1972844 Link 0 |
ive always agreed with your point of view pinkie but thinks you got this one very wrong...im chomping at the bit for the munster SF match waterford v cork/tipp...the gra is alive and well in munster
juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 29/03/2017 16:48:46 1972846 Link 0 |
Provincial championships can be kept alongside the league. Just have no qualifiers and have the AI series made up of Provincial champions plus best league performers. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4172 - 29/03/2017 16:55:53 1972849 Link 1 |
IMO the only way a super 8 quarter final would work is to seperate the provincial championships from AL series. The reason being, what would be the point?. Pretty much the same 8 teams would make it through year on year, and everyone of them counties would know that at the beginning of May. This would make the provincial games have no releavance, and they would be half hearted games. We need to have a system which makes a county earn a place in the round robin series. We have the strong 5 Munster counties, with Kilkenny, Galway, Dublin and Wexford. There would be noboby outside of that in a quarter final. In order to make a super 4, there would be some great games, and whoever makes it will have earned it. At least in football, whilst the super 8 may have similar counties, there is enough room to have a quality championship prior to it, by teams having to win at least three big games to qualify. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 29/03/2017 16:56:32 1972850 Link 0 |
Not so sure Junior. I'm getting a better kick out of the league than the Munster championship, maybe it's because the game are close to each other every week. I think the big wait between games in Munster is a real killer. We do need something different for the all Ireland series like the champion league on home and away games.
therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 29/03/2017 19:58:56 1972909 Link 0 |
Super 8 in hurling can consist of 4 provincial finalists and 4 qualifier counties. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7758 - 29/03/2017 21:12:48 1972935 Link 0 |
Counties who would gladly kill for a Munster or Leinster hurling title right now? Everyone except Kilkenny & Tipp! keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/03/2017 21:14:03 1972936 Link 0 |
Agree. If you gave me a choice at the start of every year of promotion to 1a or a Munster title id take a Munster title all day every day.
mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 30/03/2017 08:47:22 1973011 Link 1 |
Points well made there Pinkie completely agree with you
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4892 - 30/03/2017 14:49:58 1973184 Link 0 |
But sure, that's the way it is currently anyway. After the provincial championships are over in hurling and you're at last round of qualifiers (and there are only 2 qualifier rounds), you're down to 8 teams anyway. provincial hurling championship games would be as meaningful with a super 8 system, as they are in the current system, reducing it to 4 wouldn't make provincial games any more or less important. And one of the purposes of a hurling super 8, would be to increase the number of high profile hurling games in the championship, 2 groups of 4 playing off for semi final spots. replacing the 2 semi's (the 2nd and 3rd biggest hurling games of the year) with a group of 4 would not help in that regard. And wouldn't we want any new championship format/phase to have a wider spread than the usual suspects? Aren't theyhigh profile games we already have in hurling, restricted to few enough teams? We're seeing the same old combinations all the time at the business end of the championship. There are 9 teams at the top that can compete with each other on their day, lets see them playing off against each other more often, in important games. Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 30/03/2017 16:41:03 1973229 Link 0 |
Would love super 8's in hurling as well, it might impact club matches though. But overall, we need to try something different, we can't keep saying "we have always had the provincial championships, they must be kept" without ever trying something else. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 31/03/2017 14:19:51 1973557 Link 0 |
Add a group stage at the start of the championship. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4172 - 31/03/2017 19:17:03 1973670 Link 0 |
The big gaps between championship games definitely take the sting out of it. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 31/03/2017 19:38:24 1973671 Link 0 |