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The GAA get a lot of stick but this Dublin project has been very successful. Through massive unjustifable funding and preferential treatment in fixtures the GAA now have forced the situation whereby counties will now need to consider merging to compete. Quite asute work to force the situation rather than propose the mergers themselves. This one big step closer to their ultimate goal of a neatly packaged "Super 12 or 10"teams. Far easier get bigger sponsorship and sell to Sky. Plus no need to deal with pesky small counties looking for a level playing field. Rossies have excellent structures, produce very good players but can now not complete even in a league game. Good job GAA. Role on Sky deciding fixture times, squad numbers and transfer windows bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 26/03/2017 10:20:47 1971091 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "The GAA get a lot of stick but this Dublin project has been very successful. Through massive unjustifable funding and preferential treatment in fixtures the GAA now have forced the situation whereby counties will now need to consider merging to compete. Quite asute work to force the situation rather than propose the mergers themselves. This one big step closer to their ultimate goal of a neatly packaged "Super 12 or 10"teams. Far easier get bigger sponsorship and sell to Sky. Plus no need to deal with pesky small counties looking for a level playing field. Rossies have excellent structures, produce very good players but can now not complete even in a league game. Good job GAA. Role on Sky deciding fixture times, squad numbers and transfer windows" Crap as usual..There is an issue in roscommon were they were missing up to 10 players..Another have a dig at Dublin thread. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 26/03/2017 10:48:37 1971098 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "The GAA get a lot of stick but this Dublin project has been very successful. Through massive unjustifable funding and preferential treatment in fixtures the GAA now have forced the situation whereby counties will now need to consider merging to compete. Quite asute work to force the situation rather than propose the mergers themselves. This one big step closer to their ultimate goal of a neatly packaged "Super 12 or 10"teams. Far easier get bigger sponsorship and sell to Sky. Plus no need to deal with pesky small counties looking for a level playing field. Rossies have excellent structures, produce very good players but can now not complete even in a league game. Good job GAA. Role on Sky deciding fixture times, squad numbers and transfer windows" Your acting the monkey mate. superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 26/03/2017 10:56:20 1971100 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "The GAA get a lot of stick but this Dublin project has been very successful. Through massive unjustifable funding and preferential treatment in fixtures the GAA now have forced the situation whereby counties will now need to consider merging to compete. Quite asute work to force the situation rather than propose the mergers themselves. This one big step closer to their ultimate goal of a neatly packaged "Super 12 or 10"teams. Far easier get bigger sponsorship and sell to Sky. Plus no need to deal with pesky small counties looking for a level playing field. Rossies have excellent structures, produce very good players but can now not complete even in a league game. Good job GAA. Role on Sky deciding fixture times, squad numbers and transfer windows" Two bites So far... Let's see how many more you get :) waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/03/2017 11:36:14 1971102 Link
Ive here before I know my way......_zzzz_z arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 26/03/2017 11:37:12 1971103 Link
You have to hand it to the GAA and Dublin it's a great partnership they have. Mutually beneficial. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/03/2017 11:42:03 1971107 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "The GAA get a lot of stick but this Dublin project has been very successful. Through massive unjustifable funding and preferential treatment in fixtures the GAA now have forced the situation whereby counties will now need to consider merging to compete. Quite asute work to force the situation rather than propose the mergers themselves. This one big step closer to their ultimate goal of a neatly packaged "Super 12 or 10"teams. Far easier get bigger sponsorship and sell to Sky. Plus no need to deal with pesky small counties looking for a level playing field. Rossies have excellent structures, produce very good players but can now not complete even in a league game. Good job GAA. Role on Sky deciding fixture times, squad numbers and transfer windows" Would a level playing field stop Dublin having class players and a great manager? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7343 - 26/03/2017 11:51:27 1971110 Link
Haters are gonna hate. JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 26/03/2017 11:51:50 1971111 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "The GAA get a lot of stick but this Dublin project has been very successful. Through massive unjustifable funding and preferential treatment in fixtures the GAA now have forced the situation whereby counties will now need to consider merging to compete. Quite asute work to force the situation rather than propose the mergers themselves. This one big step closer to their ultimate goal of a neatly packaged "Super 12 or 10"teams. Far easier get bigger sponsorship and sell to Sky. Plus no need to deal with pesky small counties looking for a level playing field. Rossies have excellent structures, produce very good players but can now not complete even in a league game. Good job GAA. Role on Sky deciding fixture times, squad numbers and transfer windows" Have to agree Roscommon players dropping out of their panel as it is not being resourced. They have no training centre Dublin meanwhile have every facility and resource they need - food, gym, pitches, Croke Park valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 26/03/2017 12:04:32 1971114 Link
Replying To jacktheDub: "Crap as usual..There is an issue in roscommon were they were missing up to 10 players..Another have a dig at Dublin thread." Ya have to agree roscommon issues have nothing to do with resources dublin do or don't have - a team with no resources but a bit of heart and fight would have competed better than roscommon last night !! rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 617 - 26/03/2017 12:21:10 1971118 Link
It is actually a fair point. The GAA made Dublin their project 10+ years ago and given the rise/success of Dublin County and Club teams in this period then it has been a successful project. Had Dublin taken all the Financial and other help and not pushed on then it wouldn't have been a successful project. Dublin deserve huge credit for grabbing the opportunity afforded to them and by God they grabbed it. But they still had to put the effort in and this shouldn't be forgotten. What it means for the GAA as we know though is a whole different debate and it is that I suppose concerns me as the GAA may well have created a monster. But maybe that is what they want and a strong indication as to where the Association is heading. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 26/03/2017 12:27:15 1971120 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "The GAA get a lot of stick but this Dublin project has been very successful. Through massive unjustifable funding and preferential treatment in fixtures the GAA now have forced the situation whereby counties will now need to consider merging to compete. Quite asute work to force the situation rather than propose the mergers themselves. This one big step closer to their ultimate goal of a neatly packaged "Super 12 or 10"teams. Far easier get bigger sponsorship and sell to Sky. Plus no need to deal with pesky small counties looking for a level playing field. Rossies have excellent structures, produce very good players but can now not complete even in a league game. Good job GAA. Role on Sky deciding fixture times, squad numbers and transfer windows" Roscommon are a division 2 team playing in division one. The fact that they're missing 9 players from last year that lost by 1 point to Dublin in the correponding fixture has provided for this anomaly. The main difference being Dublin could lose 9 players and still be very competitive. Dublin are not unbeatable as time will prove but they have raised the bar for everyone else and have done so by playing a very attractive style of fooball when many other teams resort to 15 behind the ball. Some of the points they kick are the best we've ever seen on a GAA pitch. During the 80's when Kerry won 5 All Ireland's and another 5 in the noughties, we never heard any suggestion that they should be handicapped in any way! Why do so now with Dublin? I don't want to see Dublin dominate but it's up to other counties to match them. Counties with those resources are Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Galway, Donegal, Meath and Kildare but they haven't been able to match them though bear in mind that Mayo lost to them by just 1 point last year and 2 points in 2013 and Kerry lost by 3 in 2015 and Donegal beat them in 2014. Tyrone punch above their weight in my opinion but I don't think they have enough this year to topple Dublin. I think it'll be left to Kerry and Mayo again. Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 26/03/2017 12:45:43 1971124 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "The GAA get a lot of stick but this Dublin project has been very successful. Through massive unjustifable funding and preferential treatment in fixtures the GAA now have forced the situation whereby counties will now need to consider merging to compete. Quite asute work to force the situation rather than propose the mergers themselves. This one big step closer to their ultimate goal of a neatly packaged "Super 12 or 10"teams. Far easier get bigger sponsorship and sell to Sky. Plus no need to deal with pesky small counties looking for a level playing field. Rossies have excellent structures, produce very good players but can now not complete even in a league game. Good job GAA. Role on Sky deciding fixture times, squad numbers and transfer windows" Yawn GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 26/03/2017 12:49:13 1971126 Link
If you ask me, we don't get enough money, free pints for fans is on the way to build up those attendances. Free travel from our houses to the games. Helicopter us to provincial matches to avoid annoying traffic congestion cause by poorly laid out country towns who should have more consideration. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8589 - 26/03/2017 13:01:39 1971132 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "You have to hand it to the GAA and Dublin it's a great partnership they have. Mutually beneficial." Kingdomboy, we'll win our All Ireland's the old fashioned way, the Kerry way. Blood sweat, pride, toil and tears. An Riocht Abu!! 37 and counting... TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/03/2017 13:10:13 1971133 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "The GAA get a lot of stick but this Dublin project has been very successful. Through massive unjustifable funding and preferential treatment in fixtures the GAA now have forced the situation whereby counties will now need to consider merging to compete. Quite asute work to force the situation rather than propose the mergers themselves. This one big step closer to their ultimate goal of a neatly packaged "Super 12 or 10"teams. Far easier get bigger sponsorship and sell to Sky. Plus no need to deal with pesky small counties looking for a level playing field. Rossies have excellent structures, produce very good players but can now not complete even in a league game. Good job GAA. Role on Sky deciding fixture times, squad numbers and transfer windows" There is way more to the Dublin senior success story than this conspiracy theory. They have a perfect storm of favourable variables that translates into success, the main one being the work ethic of JG and his greater team. Cuala deserved their win on Paddy's Day too, but you think it is a conspiracy. Dublin win on merit, but yes a capital city will have more human and financial resources than say Leitrim. Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry just drew with them, is this part of the conspiracy? How many hurling counties combined would still lose to KK or Tipp? Dublin's success in recent years is a problem for some, but I do not understand the resentment. They have raised the standards and SLOWED Kerry from getting to Sam # 40. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 26/03/2017 13:12:29 1971134 Link
Replying To valley84: "Have to agree Roscommon players dropping out of their panel as it is not being resourced. They have no training centre Dublin meanwhile have every facility and resource they need - food, gym, pitches, Croke Park" Cathal Cregg left due to family, work and study commitments. Neill Collins is spending more time on his clothing business. I think Donie Shine has a year out due to a family illness? Others out because of injury. Some of the players that dropped out left because of the pro-O'Donnell v anti-McStay split. Yes their resources aren't great but that's not the reason their squad is understrength. The remaining players in the squad are very dedicated, as are all the other counties with lesser facilities than Dublin. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7343 - 26/03/2017 13:20:19 1971135 Link
Its not a criticism of Dublin ffs..I am a Dub. But the GAA have been clearly engineering a situation where it is unviable for smaller counties to complete any more. 50+ players turned down the opportunity to play football for Galway as it is not worth the commitment. Same in many other counties now . It is very evident here in Leinster. The GAA are forcing a move towards the 'package' of professional sport and Sky TV - likely 12 merged 'county' regions and to hell with the clubs bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 26/03/2017 13:37:04 1971137 Link
They have raised the standards and SLOWED Kerry from getting to Sam # 40. Any why was this a matter of national concern? We have earned our success organically, certainly got F all help from Croke Park and HQ that is for sure. Are you suggesting if it was a level playing field we would win every year or what? I'm not sure...... KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 26/03/2017 13:41:01 1971138 Link
Replying To valley84: "Have to agree Roscommon players dropping out of their panel as it is not being resourced. They have no training centre Dublin meanwhile have every facility and resource they need - food, gym, pitches, Croke Park" Don't forget the cars , population etc !! superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 26/03/2017 13:50:47 1971141 Link