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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "It's not about being "safe" anymore.

Rory figures that this team is capable of great things & he is going to take every opportunity to meld them together & get them used to playing together at the top level.

I have to say I agree with him."
MH

Do you not think in Donegal there is a chance you are putting all your eggs into one basket , a mate from your neck of the woods who I work with doesn't want to meet the Dubs in league final (should we get there) by not holding back u21 you aren't exactly giving that team best chance of success either .
So what in fact is the realistic aim ? Ulster / Sam only

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 30/03/2017 16:46:16    1973233

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way to go Ulster council, 3 day turnaround for the Ulster winners. Just start the competition earlier ,like the other provinces and this wouldn't be happening. Happened Cavan in 2011.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 31/03/2017 09:57:09    1973445

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Surely the AI Semi Final could be switched to the Sunday or even the following Saturday or even midweek.

It's inherently unfair to the Ulster winners to have essentially 2 days between matches

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 31/03/2017 12:23:22    1973509

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MH

Do you not think in Donegal there is a chance you are putting all your eggs into one basket , a mate from your neck of the woods who I work with doesn't want to meet the Dubs in league final (should we get there) by not holding back u21 you aren't exactly giving that team best chance of success either .
So what in fact is the realistic aim ? Ulster / Sam only
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts:3853 - 30/03/2017 16:46:16


Damo, I have conflicting feelings about this.

I do feel that we have the makings of a very good senior team and the more games they play the better they will get. Ryan McHugh's injury is a bit of a blow but I would like to see them against Dublin in Croke Park as I think the big pitch & firm underfoot conditions would suit them.

As against that there is a fixture congestion problem now which was made worse by the postponed game on Wed night and some would like to see the U21's get a chance to concentrate on that age group.

My own view is that the U21's are really enjoying life at the moment playing for two teams that are going really well. Injury is always a risk but you can get injured training as easily as playing & playing beats training any day of the week.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 31/03/2017 14:17:08    1973555

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Replying To KYTotalFootball:  "Surely the AI Semi Final could be switched to the Sunday or even the following Saturday or even midweek.

It's inherently unfair to the Ulster winners to have essentially 2 days between matches"
Yep or they could have replayed the semis this weekend or had the Ulster final next weekend. Still a 3 day turnaround but same for both teams. This is all the Ulster councils doing.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 31/03/2017 15:00:02    1973581

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Replying To Damothedub:  "MH

Do you not think in Donegal there is a chance you are putting all your eggs into one basket , a mate from your neck of the woods who I work with doesn't want to meet the Dubs in league final (should we get there) by not holding back u21 you aren't exactly giving that team best chance of success either .
So what in fact is the realistic aim ? Ulster / Sam only"
They seem certain that the eggs have hatched out and the chicks are ready to fly

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 31/03/2017 15:20:36    1973596

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "MH

Do you not think in Donegal there is a chance you are putting all your eggs into one basket , a mate from your neck of the woods who I work with doesn't want to meet the Dubs in league final (should we get there) by not holding back u21 you aren't exactly giving that team best chance of success either .
So what in fact is the realistic aim ? Ulster / Sam only
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts:3853 - 30/03/2017 16:46:16


Damo, I have conflicting feelings about this.

I do feel that we have the makings of a very good senior team and the more games they play the better they will get. Ryan McHugh's injury is a bit of a blow but I would like to see them against Dublin in Croke Park as I think the big pitch & firm underfoot conditions would suit them.

As against that there is a fixture congestion problem now which was made worse by the postponed game on Wed night and some would like to see the U21's get a chance to concentrate on that age group.

My own view is that the U21's are really enjoying life at the moment playing for two teams that are going really well. Injury is always a risk but you can get injured training as easily as playing & playing beats training any day of the week."
It will be a nice little problem to have if we have to worry about a fixture conjestion. We could easily end up losing to Mayo this weekend and Cavan in the under 21's on wednesday and have no more games to worry about until championship. If and it's a big "if" we continue to get positive results then there will be pressure put on a number of our under 21 players. I think Rory Gallagher will start at least 4 of them (with more playing a part from off the bench) this weekend and he doesn't really have much option with injuries to Ryan McHugh, McGlynn, Caolan Ward and possibily Neil McGee. It wouldn't be so much the possibilty of injuries I would be concerned about (as you mentioned that can happen as easily in training) it's more the lack of preparation time they will have for games as a team together espcially the under 21 lads. It must be difficult for the management. And whatever team is successful in Ulster will be really up against it v Dublin in the all ireland semi final. Hard not to see a Kerry v Dublin final at this stage.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 31/03/2017 15:58:40    1973612

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Replying To Hardtimes:  "Yep or they could have replayed the semis this weekend or had the Ulster final next weekend. Still a 3 day turnaround but same for both teams. This is all the Ulster councils doing."
Well you couldn't have had it this weekend I know quite a few Donegal U21s are playing with Seniors, don't know about the others

I don't see what the Ulster Council could have done about the heavy rainfall during the week or the replay in the previous round

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 31/03/2017 17:27:39    1973646

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They could have started the ulster u21 champinship earlier, so if there was rainfall or a replay it wouldn't be causing a fixture chaos.
It happened in 2011, it shouldn't be happening again. Leinster, Munster are done and dusted in plenty of time. Connacht final tomorrow.

Not rocket science

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 31/03/2017 18:00:16    1973657

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Replying To KYTotalFootball:  "Well you couldn't have had it this weekend I know quite a few Donegal U21s are playing with Seniors, don't know about the others

I don't see what the Ulster Council could have done about the heavy rainfall during the week or the replay in the previous round"
Is Connaught final not this weekend? We've been in this situation before too. If AI Semis were scheduled for later you can bet your house the Ulster games would be scheduled later too with no margin for error.

Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 31/03/2017 22:50:24    1973715

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Replying To Hardtimes:  "Is Connaught final not this weekend? We've been in this situation before too. If AI Semis were scheduled for later you can bet your house the Ulster games would be scheduled later too with no margin for error."
Yes the Connacht Final is on today in Markevicz Park at 6pm live online on Tg4

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 01/04/2017 10:02:13    1973764

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Cracking 2nd half. Thought Galway had done enough. Sligo might have the momentum for the extra time.

mon (Galway) - Posts: 675 - 01/04/2017 19:35:30    1973891

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Good game in Connacht, solar power came in handy with an 8.15 pm finish, Gaillimh Abu

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 01/04/2017 20:48:47    1973926

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also thanks to TG4 g.r.m.a. ...commentary as gaeilge is ar fheabhas

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 01/04/2017 20:52:44    1973928

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Congrats to Galway biggest U21 score of the week.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 01/04/2017 21:02:00    1973932

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Replying To KYTotalFootball:  "Well you couldn't have had it this weekend I know quite a few Donegal U21s are playing with Seniors, don't know about the others

I don't see what the Ulster Council could have done about the heavy rainfall during the week or the replay in the previous round"
We have a few senior pannelists u21. U21 captain Michael Daly has been a regular starter on the senior team but missed last Sunday in Newry with the u21 provincial semi final the previous evening. Probably will not start tomorrow in Salthill given the u21 final this evening.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 01/04/2017 21:31:57    1973938

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That was a really enjoyable game in Connacht. The semifinal between Galway and Kerry will have some wonderful forwards on display. Kerry though would seem to be a good bit more solid at the back.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 01/04/2017 21:36:53    1973943

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Congrats to Galway biggest U21 score of the week."
They did have extra time to do it but well done Galway and hard luck to a valiant Sligo who have never won a Connacht U 21 title and now never will.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2162 - 01/04/2017 21:36:59    1973944

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Great display from Kerry, themselves and Donegal look like having a bright future, but at this grade you never know. Dubs have had better U21 sides, and looking at Munster/Ulster/Connacht.. can't see an AI win in 2017

Although I can see 3-4 players that could prove to be very valuable options for Dublin over the next couple of years, add in those options to what's already in place

Future still looks very bright indeed

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 01/04/2017 21:40:49    1973947

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U21 championship taking shape now alright.

Congrats to Galway - tough game up next for ye though.

Fancy Donegal to make other semi. But tough schedule for them.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3731 - 01/04/2017 22:00:43    1973952

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