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I can guarantee you no one in Dublin is writing Tyrone off , by that I mean those that know the game ,the team ,and Gavin , that said we don't control the media so you will hear some silly articles in the run up.
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 11/08/2017 08:09:15 2032213 Link 1 |
Was just thinking that and agree it would be hard to call but would be one hell of a game!
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 11/08/2017 09:39:25 2032239 Link 0 |
I think you could be right about the lack of quality refs from other provinces at the moment. Currently Conor Lane seems to be the pick of the Munster refs in the eyes of the powers that be, but he has reffed Dublin twice already this year, if he were to get another game we would hear the mantra of Dublin getting their preferred refs all the time. Likewise Nielan seems to be the favoured option from Connaught, and has already reffed the league final. Nolan of Wicklow seems to be getting a lot of big games too, but he is also a Leinster ref. It's quiet possible the GAA is looking at one of these 'new' referees for the final itself, given that Coldrick and Deegan have been given the semi finals, which generally would rule them out of getting the final, but outside of them there doesn't seem to be too many referees in the frame for these games, perhaps Gough, who is also a Leinster ref, or Joe McQuillan who is frequently referred to on here as Dublin Joe, so people wouldn't be happy with him either. One thing is for sure though, anyone that thinks that a Meath referee would be inclined to do Dublin favours has absolutely no idea of the rivalry that exists between the two counties. AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 11/08/2017 10:31:47 2032261 Link 1 |
UM You are the only person I've seen writing Tyrone off as 'massive underdogs'. Although Dublin are seen as favourites, Tyrone are being paid the respect they deserve, and tightly so. No one I know from Dublin ( or anywhere else) is writing Tyrone off and it's first time during championship I'm going to Croke Park apprehensive. I still clearly remember '05 and '08 Looking forward to cracking game A. Aido69 (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 11/08/2017 11:35:46 2032295 Link 1 |
Kerry men know a good team when they see one! Still Kerry beat the Dubs in the League Final a few months ago so I'm sure some Kerry supporters are hopeful of beating this awesome Dublin team if it's a Dublin v Kerry Final in September.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2155 - 11/08/2017 11:54:08 2032311 Link 0 |
No there isn't. Tyrone were given a good chance in all those games against Kerry so claiming that people writing Tyrone off is similar to what happened in the 00's between Tyrone and Kerry is incorrect. Personally I consider that Tyrone team to be just a little bit ahead of that Kerry team and deservedly won all 3 games. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 11/08/2017 12:24:24 2032327 Link 0 |
1. I don't think we're necessarily going in as Underdogs Dublin 4/9 and Tyrone 5/2 there's not much in it Find_the_space (Tyrone) - Posts: 313 - 11/08/2017 14:11:26 2032367 Link 0 |
Did you not see 2016 semi final Dublin v Kerry ? Dublin were 5 pts down at half time ! superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 11/08/2017 14:19:44 2032370 Link 0 |
The odds favour Dublin but I would love to see a Tyrone Mayo final - who knows, it may happen. I have nothing against either Dublin or Kerry but, as in any sport, it becomes boring if the same team(s) keep winning year after year. (Yes, I know, Dublin and Kerry fans won't be bored if their team wins) neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 11/08/2017 16:58:27 2032418 Link 0 |
Huge task ahead for both Dublin & Tyrone jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 11/08/2017 17:05:56 2032420 Link 0 |
I remember walking into the house on the Friday before the 2008 all Ireland final and the afternoon show was on. Next item on the show was all about the all Ireland. The Sam Maguire was there and the Kerry manager was interviewed. All the talk was about how many all Irelands kerry had won and how this team was one of their most formidable ones to date with the O Shea s, the Gooch and the twin towers. I was wondering what we're they going to say about Tyrone. Well she did mention them Blathnaid Ni Chofaigh said we better mention Tyrone.. I think they're the sexier of the two teams with all their lovely beards. End of the programme. Well we all know what happened that Sunday in Croke Park.
border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 11/08/2017 18:56:42 2032438 Link 0 |
Ah come on now we have only won once in 8 years, bit of a mini crisis for us at the moment unless we pull our act together very soon.
KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 11/08/2017 20:52:38 2032456 Link 0 |
Well, obviously, they'd all get in as none of our lads are as good as the Dubs, who, as we all know, are close to pipping the Kerry 70s+80s team as the best Gaelic football team of all time.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 11/08/2017 22:02:02 2032475 Link 0 |
I've found this thread very interesting. I think there seems to be two predictions that it'll be either Dublin by 5-6 or it will be very tight. *Some* (mainly Dublin fans) seem very adamant that Dublin are streets ahead. This painting Tyrone as negative is tiresome. Has anyone been watching Tyrone at all? Tyrone were very defensive in 2013 and have become less so. Last year Tyrone were stupid in being too defensive against Mayo last year, but this year they have been much more attacking. Tyrone have racked up some serious scores. Tyrone have even acknowledged that they were too defensive previously. If you were at Croke Park or any of the games this year you would see that like Dublin Tyrone defend and go forward as a team. If Armagh had 15 men in their own half, Tyrone would have 14 attacking. I think Ulsterman made a very valid comparison between now and the Tyrone V Kerry games years ago. It's eerily similar. I'm not sure how it will go, but I certainly think Tyrone have a good shot. HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 11/08/2017 22:11:46 2032476 Link 1 |
the Leinster's ref's performance will be critical, especially with as deadly a freetaker as Rock on hand to knock over the frees. The lad's close to a free-taking genius; your heart sinks every time you see him stepping up to take one. He's not quite as good at the long-range ones as Sheehan, but he probably gets more overall. Much depends on who wins the Kerry match. If Mayo win, the ref hopefully will be less inclined to give soft frees to Dublin. If Kerry win, as they probably will, then the pressure will be on to set up a defining match between Kerry and the Dubs and unfortunately Tyrone in that scenario will be seen as a script-spoiling nuisance to be got rid of at semi-final stage by whatever means possible. Tyrone have no friends in the South and never will have; that's just how it is. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 11/08/2017 22:13:19 2032478 Link 0 |
yawn
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 11/08/2017 22:26:10 2032480 Link 0 |
I don't buy this trying to wrangle a Dublin/Kerry final BS. They'll get a full house no matter who plays. They will retain interest in the relevant counties. They couldn't be stupid enough to purposely bore a neutral audience with continuous battles of the 'big 2'. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 12/08/2017 02:39:14 2032513 Link 1 |
Chip on the shoulder as per usual
mightydubs (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 12/08/2017 19:47:45 2032630 Link 3 |
You will never get agreement on how many Dubs would get in the Tyrone team or vice versa but i wonder how many of the current Tyrone team do supporters think would get in the 2003 side? Obviously until they win an All-Ireland the current side cant be compared to what they had 14 years ago but in terms of ability how would they shape up? Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 12/08/2017 21:19:17 2032645 Link 0 |
I think essmac is just stating facts. Dublin have the media in their back pocket and the usual negative anti Tyrone nonsense will be churned out in abundance between now and the game
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 12/08/2017 22:09:58 2032659 Link 1 |