National - Does GAA get fair coverage compared to soccer and rugby

Replying To bad.monkey:  "RTE are showing the game live on tv and radio. Hardly ignoring it !"
It seems to be a love/hate thing between some viewers and RTE, - ie, "We love what they do and hate what they don't do" and vise/versa, either way there's no such thing as "Bad" publicity.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts:1594 - 13/08/2016 11:35:02   1900548

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Replying To Whammo86:  "As far as I know the commentators are all over there. You have to be to properly commentate.

Interviewers also have to be out there.

I think the presenters and analysts are just in the regular RTE studio. RTE don't pull a BBC on it and send everyone out."
There is a handfull of commenators doing it from Dublin the fact that I or you can't tell the difference proves my point. The have sent two commenators to both the basketball and swimming 2 sports we have no competitors or are not competitive in, yet Miles Duncan is cimmentating fom dublin on sailing and rowing 2 of the 4 sports we have any chance of winning medals in. Off course basketball and swiming get no coverage from rte normally and the cost of sending the commenators could have been better spent on providing coverage. The BBC has a massive budget and Britain are competitive in most sports third in the medal table massive difference.

ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:891 - 13/08/2016 12:08:55   1900554

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Replying To supersub15:  "I understand all of that fully, but the point I am making is, 1. RTE had the sole right to televise live the WD/KK game last Sunday, they also have the sole right to televise the replay this evening, in my view the agreement is being flexed by allowing sky to televise the "REPLAY" as well. 2. Sundays game is also being televised live by the same two TV networks, in my opinion that's flexing the agreement also.
Getting back to my point if RTE had the television rights to the Connaught final they would have honoured that right, if for some reason they couldn't honour it then why wasn't sky given the game (by the gaa powers that be) or is sky allowed to pick and choose, after all they were given and accepted the second bite of the cherry in televising the WD/KK replay, they weren't rattling the gates to televise the Connaught final as far as I'm aware."
Rte didn't have the sole right to show the hurling. Sky have can show all Ireland semi finals and finals on a non exclusive basic replays would be included in this agreement. Whereas rte had exclusive rights for the Connacht final and replay which the showed only on line and on the player the couldn't be bothered showing it on tv. Sky had no rights to show the Connacht final.

ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:891 - 13/08/2016 12:17:42   1900557

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Replying To ROS1:  "Rte didn't have the sole right to show the hurling. Sky have can show all Ireland semi finals and finals on a non exclusive basic replays would be included in this agreement. Whereas rte had exclusive rights for the Connacht final and replay which the showed only on line and on the player the couldn't be bothered showing it on tv. Sky had no rights to show the Connacht final."
ROS1, Again I understand all of this, however, you say RTE didn't have the sole right to show the hurling, by that I assume you mean the drawn WW/KK match, you go on to say sky have and can show all Ireland "semi finals" and finals on a non exclusive basis, replays would be included in this agreement. - If that's the case why then did SKY not televise the drawn WW/KK match.

Whereas rte had exclusive rights for the Connacht final and replay which the showed only on line and on the player the couldn't be bothered showing it on tv. Sky had no rights to show the Connacht final.

This is the bit I don't understand, "If RTE had exclusive rights to televise the Connaught final, then by definition and "contractual agreement" they were contracted to televise the Connaught final. - Now we all know that didn't happen, but should be questioned to say the least.
The gaa powers that be, signed up sky, so that the games can be brought into the homes of people across the water so to speak, why then was sky not asked to televise the Connaught final into the homes of people here at home in the absence of RTE for whatever reason, imo the buck stops with the decision makers in Croke Park, not with RTE in Donneybrook.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts:1594 - 13/08/2016 22:34:39   1900703

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Replying To supersub15:  "ROS1, Again I understand all of this, however, you say RTE didn't have the sole right to show the hurling, by that I assume you mean the drawn WW/KK match, you go on to say sky have and can show all Ireland "semi finals" and finals on a non exclusive basis, replays would be included in this agreement. - If that's the case why then did SKY not televise the drawn WW/KK match.

Whereas rte had exclusive rights for the Connacht final and replay which the showed only on line and on the player the couldn't be bothered showing it on tv. Sky had no rights to show the Connacht final.

This is the bit I don't understand, "If RTE had exclusive rights to televise the Connaught final, then by definition and "contractual agreement" they were contracted to televise the Connaught final. - Now we all know that didn't happen, but should be questioned to say the least.
The gaa powers that be, signed up sky, so that the games can be brought into the homes of people across the water so to speak, why then was sky not asked to televise the Connaught final into the homes of people here at home in the absence of RTE for whatever reason, imo the buck stops with the decision makers in Croke Park, not with RTE in Donneybrook."
I believe sky did show the kk/wat game the first day, the are showing the tipp game today. As for the Connacht final rte claimed the were covering it by showing it online.

ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:891 - 14/08/2016 11:24:55   1900769

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Great opportunity over the last week to compare how RTE 6.01 News and Sport deals with different sports in this case hurling and soccer. In the build-up to the All-Ireland Hurling SF Replay between Kilkenny and Waterford 6.01 News and Sport provided a 50 second preview given less than 20 minutes before throw-in directly from Semple Stadium. No television crews were sent to either county as part of the match build-up.
For the following day's second SF between Tipperary and Galway 6.01 News and Sport provided no preview at all (not one second) in the build-up to the game. So the two matches between them received 50 seconds in the build-up to two of the biggest sports events of the year.
Fast forward to the 6.01 coverage of Dundalk vs Legia Warsaw. On the day before the match (Tuesday) RTE 6.01 news and Sport sent a camera crew to Dundalk for a 2 minute build-up to the match. On the day of the match (Wednesday) they sent another camera crew to Dundalk to feature the build-up to the match once again (it lasted 1 minute and 45 seconds). Later in the same programme they featured the match for the third time with an interview in the Dublin Arena prior to the start (1 minute and 25 seconds).
So in total the Dundalk game received 5 minutes and 10 seconds build-up prior to the match while the 2 hurling SF's received 50 seconds between them. Of course there's nothing wrong with the soccer coverage. It's the level of hurling coverage on Those 6.01 News and Sport programmes that's the real scandal. The bias was rarely if ever so obvious as over this past week.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 19/08/2016 12:58:25   1903178

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Croke Park is another sell out this Sunday. 82,300 for Kerry and Dublin. One of the most eagerly anticipated sports events of 2016 so far. Not that you would know it from watching RTE 6.01 News and Sport. No mention of the game this week at all. How different from Aug. 4th when 6.01 Sport made a major issue of Cork City's sell out against Genk. Attendance 6,700. The same old story.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 25/08/2016 22:21:11   1906121

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Sunday August 28th. All-Ireland Senior Football Semi-Final. Croke Park. 82,300. Dublin 0-22 Kerry 2-14. One of the greatest games of all time. People the length and breadth of the country talking about little else today.

Monday August 29th. RTE 6.01 News and Sport. 11 minutes and 5 seconds sports coverage in total.
Olympic Games 2 minutes 30 seconds.
Rowing 5 minutes 45 seconds.
Soccer 2 minutes.
Golf 30 seconds.
Triathlon 20 seconds.
One of the most glorious football matches of all time 0 minutes 0 seconds.

At least they're consistent.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 29/08/2016 20:57:00   1907821

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Replying To mediaman:  "Sunday August 28th. All-Ireland Senior Football Semi-Final. Croke Park. 82,300. Dublin 0-22 Kerry 2-14. One of the greatest games of all time. People the length and breadth of the country talking about little else today.

Monday August 29th. RTE 6.01 News and Sport. 11 minutes and 5 seconds sports coverage in total.
Olympic Games 2 minutes 30 seconds.
Rowing 5 minutes 45 seconds.
Soccer 2 minutes.
Golf 30 seconds.
Triathlon 20 seconds.
One of the most glorious football matches of all time 0 minutes 0 seconds.

At least they're consistent."
You sir are one sad deluded individual. I was taking you semi-seriously until you showed your blinkers with the magical line of 'People the length and breadth of the country talking about little else today.'
It's been non-stop GAA for the past couple of weekends, football semi-finals, ladies games, camogie, minor football - all free to air on RTE and TG4. Last night's 9 O'Clock news had about ten minutes GAA with quick highlights, interview clips and a segment with Marty M interviewing fans outside the ground.
Next weekend we will have ladies football, and wall to wall coverage of the hurling finals, plus that terrible Up for the Match.
Jesus wept, there could be 24-hour GAA coverage and you would find some chip on your shoulder to give out about.

Roger (Meath) - Posts:368 - 29/08/2016 21:13:40   1907826

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Last night (Saturday) RTE's 6.01 Sports News ran for 7 minutes and 13 seconds. Of that , 15 seconds or 3.4% was devoted to GAA matters. In fact just one result that of the Kerry Westmeath 2A Hurling Final was mentioned. The other 3 hurling league Finals, the Div.4 football match and the 2 All-Ireland Colleges Finals were completely ignored. Par for the course you might think. Still emboldened by hope I then watched the RTE 9 o'clock Sports News. It ran for 6 minutes and 30 seconds. This time in addition to ignoring the already mentioned games RTE then decided to drop even the Kerry Westmeath result and to make it a clean sweep they also failed to give the result of the Connacht U-21 Football Final. Leaving GAA matters with a grand total of 0% coverage. The ignored U-21 match was attended by almost 5,000 people in Tuam as compared to the few hundred who attended the Limerick Dundalk and Longford St Pats League of Ireland games for which of course RTE gave the full-time scores. The battle to highlight the abuse of 'our' games on the 'National Broadcaster' goes on.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:350 - 05/04/2015 19:40:09   17

Croke Park is another sell out this Sunday. 82,300 for Kerry and Dublin. One of the most eagerly anticipated sports events of 2016 so far. Not that you would know it from watching RTE 6.01 News and Sport. No mention of the game this week at all. How different from Aug. 4th when 6.01 Sport made a major issue of Cork City's sell out against Genk. Attendance 6,700. The same old story.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:350 - 25/08/2016 22:21:11   1

mediaman complains about a match having around 5k at it not being covered but then moans when a game having more people at it getting some coverage and it wasnt even shown on rte

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1305 - 30/08/2016 16:49:24   1908225

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RTE's 6.01 News and Sport has failed completely throughout this summer to provide any positive follow-up on the many good football/ hurling stories (the hurling and football semi-finals are perfect examples of that). The 6.01 News and Sport seems obsessed with any negative football/hurling stories they can find to report on particularly on their Monday evening slot. Here are just a few examples.

Monday June 6th - feature on the Meath Antrim score controversy
Monday June 13th - feature on supposed incident at the end of Westmeath and Offaly LSFC
Monday July 4th - feature on Wexford Offaly goal controversy
Monday July 11th - feature on negativity in hurling
Monday July 18th - feature on Black Card controversy in football

All negative reporting.

No Monday reports on the great games of the summer. Why not? Imagine any serious news programme not following up on last Sunday's thriller. It beggars belief.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 30/08/2016 20:41:24   1908359

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They showed the match live on TV and had live coverage on radio. And then had extended highlights on the Sunday Game that night! But still not enough...maybe smoke signal live updates from Croagh Patrick for ya

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4334 - 30/08/2016 21:25:40   1908390

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Why not? Imagine any serious news programme not following up on last Sunday's thriller. It beggars belief.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:351 - 30/08/2016 20:41:24 190

it did - on sunday -the day before

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1305 - 30/08/2016 22:21:31   1908414

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This is a pathetic thread, you have to realize GAA isn't the only sport of interest in Ireland, i'm a great GAA fan and a big follower of both Cork Footballers and Hurlers, but I also am i big fan of Munster in Rugby and Cork City and Manchester United in soccer, the news has to cover other sports then just the GAA

rebelfan (Cork) - Posts:70 - 30/08/2016 22:52:46   1908439

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14,410 - the attendance at yesterday's Waterford Galway All-Ireland U-21 Hurling Final more than attended the recent Ireland England U-20 Rugby Union World Cup Final. Imagine that more than a World Final. It's amazing really when you consider what little coverage the competition receives on RTE TV compared to U-20 Rugby Union which isn't even as popular on the World stage as U-21 hurling is in this country alone.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 11/09/2016 11:25:54   1912698

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Replying To mediaman:  "14,410 - the attendance at yesterday's Waterford Galway All-Ireland U-21 Hurling Final more than attended the recent Ireland England U-20 Rugby Union World Cup Final. Imagine that more than a World Final. It's amazing really when you consider what little coverage the competition receives on RTE TV compared to U-20 Rugby Union which isn't even as popular on the World stage as U-21 hurling is in this country alone."
Doesn't TG4 have the rights for the u21s?

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts:217 - 11/09/2016 12:30:58   1912716

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Good to see so many posters giving the thumbs down to RTE's TV coverage of the U-21 grade.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 11/09/2016 18:58:58   1912835

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Replying To extranjero:  "Doesn't TG4 have the rights for the u21s?"
Sure doesn't sky and bt have the rights for English soccer?
We still see rte highlighting that every day

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12022 - 11/09/2016 19:10:17   1912840

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Replying To extranjero:  "Doesn't TG4 have the rights for the u21s?"
Sure doesn't sky and bt have the rights for English soccer?
We still see rte highlighting that every day

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12022 - 11/09/2016 19:10:19   1912841

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Replying To rebelfan:  "This is a pathetic thread, you have to realize GAA isn't the only sport of interest in Ireland, i'm a great GAA fan and a big follower of both Cork Footballers and Hurlers, but I also am i big fan of Munster in Rugby and Cork City and Manchester United in soccer, the news has to cover other sports then just the GAA"
That's the whole point of this thread: drawing attention to the preferential treatment of soccer & rugby over GAA. Noone is saying 'only GAA should be covered'.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:3452 - 11/09/2016 19:45:11   1912855

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