National - Does GAA get fair coverage compared to soccer and rugby

correct breiffne they were outbid - but it they are so pro rugby and anti gaa so much as mediaman and other posters make out, they would outbid Tg4 for pro12 and champs cup highlights and TV3 for world cup, however they dont, yet they love Gaa enough (correctly so in my view) to ensure they dont get outbid for gaa championship

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1281 - 10/08/2016 12:03:47   1899329

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Replying To mediaman:  "It appears that the Irish Examiner soccer article of August 8th comes to the same conclusion as the rest of us - that Rugby Union receives favourable treatment from RTE.

'For example, on March 18, Dundalk and Cork City - the top two teams in the country - played a League game in front of 3,528 fans at Oriel Park. Instead RTE broadcast a dead rubber Ireland U20s rugby game, a match that drew an attendance of an even 2,500 to Donnybrook.'

So if we think Rugby Union gets preferential treatment from RTE and the soccer community thinks Rugby Union gets preferential treatment from RTE?"
You don't get out much, do you?

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1744 - 10/08/2016 12:14:06   1899335

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When someone complains about rte not showing a divison 1 game in football we are told o what about the costs of that etc rte have no money etc. Yet the are able to send everyone in rte and a few outsiders to rio. I would not like to see the bill for that.

ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:887 - 10/08/2016 12:24:28   1899341

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "The perception of unfair coverage."
The perception to which I was referring was that The GAA gets favourable coverage on RTE . That myth has been dismantled by mediamans sustained analysis of RTE's broadcast content .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4585 - 10/08/2016 12:33:51   1899345

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Replying To janesboro:  "Mediaman has blown the perception of unfair coverage out of the water .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4407 - 10/08/2016 10:54:33 1899290 `


Well he hasnt proved any unfair coverage or pro rugby anti gaa bias to me - the only bias i see is his bias against rte and rugby

RTE give great coverage to GAA - huge amount of live games on tv and radio. Lots of highlight shows and radio 1 have fantastic coverage throughout the year of club and intercounty games. 
On the other hand in rugby they have dropped the old Heineken cup, Pro 12, World Cup and soon 6 nations coverage. 
This is the reality. To claim they have a pro rugby bias is pretty ridiculous
bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4163 - 04/08/2016 19:58:46


this post in my view shows that there clearly is no such bias"
Rubbish . The didn't drop them through choice . They dropped them because they couldn't compete financially .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4585 - 10/08/2016 12:35:35   1899346

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Rubbish . The didn't drop them through choice . They dropped them because they couldn't compete financially .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4409 - 10/08/2016 12:35:35

so RTE cannot compete financially with TG4 for rugby coverage or TV3 - thats interesting

judging by these rte appears to have substantially more income than Tg4 and more income than tv3- so this would suggest they can compete financially. Hopefully they can compete financially enough to keep their GAA coverage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TG4#Budget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raidi%C3%B3_Teilif%C3%ADs_%C3%89ireann#Budget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV3_(Ireland)#Budget

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1281 - 10/08/2016 12:48:37   1899355

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That myth has been dismantled by mediamans sustained analysis of RTE's broadcast content .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4409 - 10/08/2016 12:33:51 1899345

no its his substained analysis of RTE six one news - he ignores live matches, radio, sunday game , all other gaa programmes

RTE going to have 4 live games this weekend - 3 more games going to be on tg4 - next weekend Tg4 will have 5 games and RTE have football semi - thats good coverage to be fair

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1281 - 10/08/2016 12:53:08   1899359

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Replying To Greengrass:  "[quote=janesboro:  "Mediaman has blown the perception of unfair coverage out of the water .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4407 - 10/08/2016 10:54:33 1899290 `


Well he hasnt proved any unfair coverage or pro rugby anti gaa bias to me - the only bias i see is his bias against rte and rugby

RTE give great coverage to GAA - huge amount of live games on tv and radio. Lots of highlight shows and radio 1 have fantastic coverage throughout the year of club and intercounty games. 
On the other hand in rugby they have dropped the old Heineken cup, Pro 12, World Cup and soon 6 nations coverage. 
This is the reality. To claim they have a pro rugby bias is pretty ridiculous
bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4163 - 04/08/2016 19:58:46


this post in my view shows that there clearly is no such bias"
Rubbish . The didn't drop them through choice . They dropped them because they couldn't compete financially ."]The point being that if they were biased against GAA then they would not buy the rights to show GAA ! and use the money to bid for rugby. The opposite is happening

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4334 - 10/08/2016 12:54:34   1899360

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Now the rowing bridage are on board (pun intended!)

http://m.independent.ie/sport/rio-2016-olympics/fury-in-west-cork-as-rt-fails-to-broadcast-rio-rowing-heat-live-34953896.html

Do people think RTE is a sports channel??

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4334 - 10/08/2016 12:55:36   1899362

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Replying To Greengrass:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "The perception of unfair coverage."
The perception to which I was referring was that The GAA gets favourable coverage on RTE . That myth has been dismantled by mediamans sustained analysis of RTE's broadcast content ."]'Sustained Analysis' = selectively picking and choosing RTE news and sport items that back up his 'RTE are anti-GAA' agenda and presenting them as being statistical analysis.

Are more than 50% of RTE's news and sports viewers exvlusively interested in GAA stories and coverage and have no interest in other sports?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3480 - 10/08/2016 13:29:45   1899379

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Replying To janesboro:  "Rubbish . The didn't drop them through choice . They dropped them because they couldn't compete financially .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4409 - 10/08/2016 12:35:35

so RTE cannot compete financially with TG4 for rugby coverage or TV3 - thats interesting

judging by these rte appears to have substantially more income than Tg4 and more income than tv3- so this would suggest they can compete financially. Hopefully they can compete financially enough to keep their GAA coverage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TG4#Budget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raidi%C3%B3_Teilif%C3%ADs_%C3%89ireann#Budget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV3_(Ireland)#Budget"
Irrelevant links. It's their sports budgets that matter.

Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:11083 - 10/08/2016 13:44:17   1899389

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Irrelevant links. It's their sports budgets that matter.
Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10311 - 10/08/2016 13:44:17

no they are not irrelevant - it rte has a bigger overall budget than tg4 then i think its reasonable to assume they have a bigger sports budget , maybe you might show us something to the contrary

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1281 - 10/08/2016 13:54:57   1899397

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "[quote=Greengrass:  "[quote=janesboro:  "Mediaman has blown the perception of unfair coverage out of the water .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4407 - 10/08/2016 10:54:33 1899290 `


Well he hasnt proved any unfair coverage or pro rugby anti gaa bias to me - the only bias i see is his bias against rte and rugby

RTE give great coverage to GAA - huge amount of live games on tv and radio. Lots of highlight shows and radio 1 have fantastic coverage throughout the year of club and intercounty games. 
On the other hand in rugby they have dropped the old Heineken cup, Pro 12, World Cup and soon 6 nations coverage. 
This is the reality. To claim they have a pro rugby bias is pretty ridiculous
bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4163 - 04/08/2016 19:58:46


this post in my view shows that there clearly is no such bias"
Rubbish . The didn't drop them through choice . They dropped them because they couldn't compete financially ."]The point being that if they were biased against GAA then they would not buy the rights to show GAA ! and use the money to bid for rugby. The opposite is happening"]Now you really are getting ridiculous . RTE are competing with SKY and BT for the rights to rugby coverage for The Championship and The Six Nations . They can't compete with them . That's why they let them go and the money they spend on GAA wouldn't bring back the rugby. They cut their losses and broadcast GAA. I am surprised that they don't broadcast The Pro12. But then they are not bothered with The National League, the club championships, ladies football, most of the camogie or indeed any ladies soccer . They have also allowed SKY to gain a foothold in the football and hurling championship.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4585 - 10/08/2016 14:50:17   1899428

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Replying To janesboro:  "That myth has been dismantled by mediamans sustained analysis of RTE's broadcast content .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4409 - 10/08/2016 12:33:51 1899345

no its his substained analysis of RTE six one news - he ignores live matches, radio, sunday game , all other gaa programmes

RTE going to have 4 live games this weekend - 3 more games going to be on tg4 - next weekend Tg4 will have 5 games and RTE have football semi - thats good coverage to be fair"
There would want to be good coverage at this stage of the season in hurling, football and camogie . I seem to remember 30 soccer matches being broadcast live and in full during June and July.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4585 - 10/08/2016 14:59:42   1899436

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "[quote=Greengrass:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "The perception of unfair coverage."
The perception to which I was referring was that The GAA gets favourable coverage on RTE . That myth has been dismantled by mediamans sustained analysis of RTE's broadcast content ."]'Sustained Analysis' = selectively picking and choosing RTE news and sport items that back up his 'RTE are anti-GAA' agenda and presenting them as being statistical analysis.

Are more than 50% of RTE's news and sports viewers exvlusively interested in GAA stories and coverage and have no interest in other sports?"]He referred not just yo the amount of coverage but also to the tone of the coverage most especially the negativity that is apparent. He has done this consistently across tv and Internet for abysses and his conclusions are rock solid . It is you who are in denial .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4585 - 10/08/2016 15:03:23   1899439

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RTE are competing with SKY and BT for the rights to rugby coverage for The Championship and The Six Nations . They can't compete with them . Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4412 - 10/08/2016 14:50:17 1899428

-yes but they can compete with tg4 for their rugby coverage and tv3 for rwc and 6 nations, yet they dont so maybe its possible they aint as pro rugby anti gaa as they are being made out

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1281 - 10/08/2016 15:12:59   1899443

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He has done this consistently across tv and Internet for abysses and his conclusions are rock solid . It is you who are in denial .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts:4412 - 10/08/2016 15:03:23 1899439

greengrass i think he has done this consistently across the six one news , not across tv if he did youd be including live matches other programmes where in fairness the coverage is usually positive

ps good luck to Dundalk next week -massive achievement to get to (at worst) europa league, hope they make champions league and enjoy the resulting riches and glory

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1281 - 10/08/2016 15:17:23   1899449

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Replying To Greengrass:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "[quote=Greengrass:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "The perception of unfair coverage."
The perception to which I was referring was that The GAA gets favourable coverage on RTE . That myth has been dismantled by mediamans sustained analysis of RTE's broadcast content ."]'Sustained Analysis' = selectively picking and choosing RTE news and sport items that back up his 'RTE are anti-GAA' agenda and presenting them as being statistical analysis.

Are more than 50% of RTE's news and sports viewers exvlusively interested in GAA stories and coverage and have no interest in other sports?"]He referred not just yo the amount of coverage but also to the tone of the coverage most especially the negativity that is apparent. He has done this consistently across tv and Internet for abysses and his conclusions are rock solid . It is you who are in denial ."]He has done this consistently across tv and Internet for abysses and his conclusions are rock solid .

Consistently ??? Keeps making up different criteria to suit his opinions. When it was pointed out to him that splitting GAA into hurling and football to increase the downtrodden effect he abandoned that plan. When he couldn't find enough béal bocht stories on RTE TV coverage he announces some criticism of the website not updating match scores within an unspecific timeframe. If a GAA story gets more minutes than other sports on 6:01 News it's criticised because it didn't get the 'coveted' first slot on the sports bulletin.

He will never answer a direct question and he or his cheerleaders will never answer this question -

Are more than 50% of RTE's news and sports viewers exclusively interested in GAA stories and coverage and have no interest in other sports?

Because they know the answer is no.

And never state what kind of GAA coverage and GAA news coverage would make them happy. Because no amount would make them happy, the only thing that makes them happy is whinging.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3480 - 10/08/2016 16:24:31   1899489

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "[quote=Greengrass:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "[quote=Greengrass:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "The perception of unfair coverage."
The perception to which I was referring was that The GAA gets favourable coverage on RTE . That myth has been dismantled by mediamans sustained analysis of RTE's broadcast content ."]'Sustained Analysis' = selectively picking and choosing RTE news and sport items that back up his 'RTE are anti-GAA' agenda and presenting them as being statistical analysis.

Are more than 50% of RTE's news and sports viewers exvlusively interested in GAA stories and coverage and have no interest in other sports?"]He referred not just yo the amount of coverage but also to the tone of the coverage most especially the negativity that is apparent. He has done this consistently across tv and Internet for abysses and his conclusions are rock solid . It is you who are in denial ."]He has done this consistently across tv and Internet for abysses and his conclusions are rock solid .

Consistently ??? Keeps making up different criteria to suit his opinions. When it was pointed out to him that splitting GAA into hurling and football to increase the downtrodden effect he abandoned that plan. When he couldn't find enough béal bocht stories on RTE TV coverage he announces some criticism of the website not updating match scores within an unspecific timeframe. If a GAA story gets more minutes than other sports on 6:01 News it's criticised because it didn't get the 'coveted' first slot on the sports bulletin.

He will never answer a direct question and he or his cheerleaders will never answer this question -

Are more than 50% of RTE's news and sports viewers exclusively interested in GAA stories and coverage and have no interest in other sports?

Because they know the answer is no.

And never state what kind of GAA coverage and GAA news coverage would make them happy. Because no amount would make them happy, the only thing that makes them happy is whinging."]You are whinging about people whinging. Maybe mediaman can no overbroad at times but he/she are correct about not just the level but also the tone of the coverage. There seems to be a attiude with some on here that we should be gratefull if gaa gets any coverage at all and keep your month shut. Rte have no problem covering a story when it is negative about the gaa. It seems rte are reducing there coverage of sport as a whole, it would be sad to see it go the same way as the BBC which has virtually no live sport

ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:887 - 10/08/2016 19:36:00   1899595

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Replying To ROS1:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "[quote=Greengrass:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "[quote=Greengrass:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "The perception of unfair coverage."
The perception to which I was referring was that The GAA gets favourable coverage on RTE . That myth has been dismantled by mediamans sustained analysis of RTE's broadcast content ."]'Sustained Analysis' = selectively picking and choosing RTE news and sport items that back up his 'RTE are anti-GAA' agenda and presenting them as being statistical analysis.

Are more than 50% of RTE's news and sports viewers exvlusively interested in GAA stories and coverage and have no interest in other sports?"]He referred not just yo the amount of coverage but also to the tone of the coverage most especially the negativity that is apparent. He has done this consistently across tv and Internet for abysses and his conclusions are rock solid . It is you who are in denial ."]He has done this consistently across tv and Internet for abysses and his conclusions are rock solid .

Consistently ??? Keeps making up different criteria to suit his opinions. When it was pointed out to him that splitting GAA into hurling and football to increase the downtrodden effect he abandoned that plan. When he couldn't find enough béal bocht stories on RTE TV coverage he announces some criticism of the website not updating match scores within an unspecific timeframe. If a GAA story gets more minutes than other sports on 6:01 News it's criticised because it didn't get the 'coveted' first slot on the sports bulletin.

He will never answer a direct question and he or his cheerleaders will never answer this question -

Are more than 50% of RTE's news and sports viewers exclusively interested in GAA stories and coverage and have no interest in other sports?

Because they know the answer is no.

And never state what kind of GAA coverage and GAA news coverage would make them happy. Because no amount would make them happy, the only thing that makes them happy is whinging."]You are whinging about people whinging. Maybe mediaman can no overbroad at times but he/she are correct about not just the level but also the tone of the coverage. There seems to be a attiude with some on here that we should be gratefull if gaa gets any coverage at all and keep your month shut. Rte have no problem covering a story when it is negative about the gaa. It seems rte are reducing there coverage of sport as a whole, it would be sad to see it go the same way as the BBC which has virtually no live sport"]He's not correct. For there to be a bias the majority of RTE News and Sports viewers/listeners would want to exclusively want to watch/listen to coverage or news about GAA and no other sports. In my opinion they don't. I also don't think the majority of RTE viewers would rather watch the Connacht Final than the Olympics. You would, I would, more fool them for rather watching some athletes, many suspected of PED abuse, over a Connacht final but there's no accounting for taste. We're both from Connacht so maybe viewers from the other provinces have little interest in a Connacht final. But we're a minute fraction of a percent of a percent of RTE viewers. Say we have 200 posters on this thread, it's probably a lot less, and 80% of them are pro-GAA and anti other sports they're still a miniscule number compared to all RTE viewers and listeners. I think a large majority if GAA people like and participate in other sports. Mediaman argues against that by choosing whatever criteria suits his arguement on a given day. No consistent facts with data on the same criteria. Is it not biased to think that people who like GAA can't like other sports ?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3480 - 10/08/2016 20:49:35   1899624

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