National - Division 2 2017

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A couple of observations given there is a lot of commentary among Meath posters. It is a myth to say that Meath threw away that game in Salthill last year. In all honesty with Galway after conceding a first half calamitous own goal and outscoring the Royals 13 points to 1 until the 35th minute of the 2nd period the biggest error was Galway mgt not bringing in reinforcements. We were out on our legs and Meath scored 3 points in basucally injury/added time to tie the game. Contrast that with out home drawn game to Fermanagh in Tuam. Even though we had 15 wides to their 4 I never felt confident largely due to the fact they had a forward on form in Tomas Corrigan and our Shane Walsh who was in the groove in the 1st half had to go off injured at the interval. On this season if we had our full complement of players (more of the Corofin panel have declared for Galway but won't be available at least until after the 2nd league game and if they beat Crokes will miss at least 5 league games) I would be quitely optimistic. Otherwise it us open country as to who will get promoted.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts:1109 - 21/01/2017 09:09:36   1947505

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Meath are due a big year and l would expect them to be strong candidates for promotion, along with Cork and Galway. Fermanagh will be very competitive aswell. Overall it has the makings of a very interesting division

Brendan Bowens (Galway) - Posts:162 - 21/01/2017 10:48:55   1947511

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Replying To kiloughter:  "A couple of observations given there is a lot of commentary among Meath posters. It is a myth to say that Meath threw away that game in Salthill last year. In all honesty with Galway after conceding a first half calamitous own goal and outscoring the Royals 13 points to 1 until the 35th minute of the 2nd period the biggest error was Galway mgt not bringing in reinforcements. We were out on our legs and Meath scored 3 points in basucally injury/added time to tie the game. Contrast that with out home drawn game to Fermanagh in Tuam. Even though we had 15 wides to their 4 I never felt confident largely due to the fact they had a forward on form in Tomas Corrigan and our Shane Walsh who was in the groove in the 1st half had to go off injured at the interval. On this season if we had our full complement of players (more of the Corofin panel have declared for Galway but won't be available at least until after the 2nd league game and if they beat Crokes will miss at least 5 league games) I would be quitely optimistic. Otherwise it us open country as to who will get promoted."
Do you expect Galway to have any new players that can make a big impact?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts:8307 - 21/01/2017 12:40:51   1947523

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Do you expect Galway to have any new players that can make a big impact?"
Ian Burke of Corofin has serious potential. One of the Corofin Farraghers is inter county. Michael Lundy is back and flying apparently. Outside Corofin Barry McHugh and Michael Daly should make an impact. Michael Day from Headford is coming on nicely. Too early for some of the talented 2016 minors to make a breakthrough at senior level. We could have an embarrassment of riches from 8-15 but defence is a concern although last year we developed a system which only came unstuck against Tipp in the quarter final. As I said earlier Div 2 is pretty open. Meath surely will get a poistive bounce with the new mgt plus the addition of some potentials.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts:1109 - 21/01/2017 13:11:57   1947528

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Replying To kiloughter:  "A couple of observations given there is a lot of commentary among Meath posters. It is a myth to say that Meath threw away that game in Salthill last year. In all honesty with Galway after conceding a first half calamitous own goal and outscoring the Royals 13 points to 1 until the 35th minute of the 2nd period the biggest error was Galway mgt not bringing in reinforcements. We were out on our legs and Meath scored 3 points in basucally injury/added time to tie the game. Contrast that with out home drawn game to Fermanagh in Tuam. Even though we had 15 wides to their 4 I never felt confident largely due to the fact they had a forward on form in Tomas Corrigan and our Shane Walsh who was in the groove in the 1st half had to go off injured at the interval. On this season if we had our full complement of players (more of the Corofin panel have declared for Galway but won't be available at least until after the 2nd league game and if they beat Crokes will miss at least 5 league games) I would be quitely optimistic. Otherwise it us open country as to who will get promoted."
Meath had Galway in all sorts of troubles before second half ,before imploding

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11961 - 21/01/2017 13:20:30   1947529

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Meath had Galway in all sorts of troubles before second half ,before imploding"
Ya and Galway had Meath in all sorts of trouble in the second half before imploding in injury time.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts:206 - 21/01/2017 14:28:05   1947538

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Ya and Galway had Meath in all sorts of trouble in the second half before imploding in injury time."
Meath were 9 points up at half time and in the end should have lost the game.We were lucky that Galway made a mess of it to be honest.But those half time leads and implosions are common in Meath.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts:8307 - 21/01/2017 14:51:36   1947542

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Ian Burke of Corofin has serious potential. One of the Corofin Farraghers is inter county. Michael Lundy is back and flying apparently. Outside Corofin Barry McHugh and Michael Daly should make an impact. Michael Day from Headford is coming on nicely. Too early for some of the talented 2016 minors to make a breakthrough at senior level. We could have an embarrassment of riches from 8-15 but defence is a concern although last year we developed a system which only came unstuck against Tipp in the quarter final. As I said earlier Div 2 is pretty open. Meath surely will get a poistive bounce with the new mgt plus the addition of some potentials."
Yeah I see Galway as serious contenders very soon in terms of challenging for the top prize.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts:8307 - 21/01/2017 14:52:26   1947543

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Replying To 32_4_1:  "If certain fellow Meath posters want to monopolise all Division 2 talk about Meath, then surely it should be taken to the Meath forum. Isn't that what the county forums are for? As much as I'd like to see Meath promoted, it's too soon. Too soon for new management to make any huge impact, and as we seen against Laois the second half traits from under MOD haven't gone away. The second half collapses predate MOD as was already pointed out, and the problem runs alot deeper than management. The issue will take alot more time to resolve. Expect alot more Meath second half collapses this year"
indeed

bobobo (Clare) - Posts:20 - 22/01/2017 16:46:38   1947733

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Replying To bobobo:  "indeed"
No second half collapse has accord under Andy. That been said today our mostly 2/3 string didn't cope well with a blanket defensive, however the real business starts in 2 weeks.
On a secondary note I want to wish our captain well for all ire club semi final next week, huge thanks to him for lining out today, and deapite the best efforts of a few Louth players he escaped without injury. I will be in Armagh to see this historic day. Come on the blues.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11961 - 22/01/2017 17:17:59   1947755

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Replying To royaldunne:  "No second half collapse has accord under Andy. That been said today our mostly 2/3 string didn't cope well with a blanket defensive, however the real business starts in 2 weeks.
On a secondary note I want to wish our captain well for all ire club semi final next week, huge thanks to him for lining out today, and deapite the best efforts of a few Louth players he escaped without injury. I will be in Armagh to see this historic day. Come on the blues."
Some really high challenges on him and yet Forde gets sent off for a push..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts:8307 - 22/01/2017 17:24:29   1947758

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Some really high challenges on him and yet Forde gets sent off for a push.."
Yeah. Honesty if any other county player was subjected to those high hits Joe Duffy would be buzzing tomorrow. Yet it's our lad ,who went to defend him that gets red. Makes no sense, one rule for Meath another for everyone else.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11961 - 22/01/2017 17:50:44   1947776

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Yeah. Honesty if any other county player was subjected to those high hits Joe Duffy would be buzzing tomorrow. Yet it's our lad ,who went to defend him that gets red. Makes no sense, one rule for Meath another for everyone else."
Ah RD did you really say that. Have always had great respect for Meath but is that not stretching it more than a tad. The nature of most GAA fans is to feel aggrieved. Some just more vocal than others.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts:1109 - 22/01/2017 19:46:57   1947831

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Replying To royaldunne:  "No second half collapse has accord under Andy. That been said today our mostly 2/3 string didn't cope well with a blanket defensive, however the real business starts in 2 weeks.
On a secondary note I want to wish our captain well for all ire club semi final next week, huge thanks to him for lining out today, and deapite the best efforts of a few Louth players he escaped without injury. I will be in Armagh to see this historic day. Come on the blues."
Meath leading 0-04 to 0-02

20 minutes later they were trailing 0-10 to 0-04

Wake up RD.

Forde red was 20m from where I was standing. He ran into the fracas and launched both hands into the face of the Louth player who made a full meal out of it with the linesman in full view.

Red card all day.

That said I was surprised no other player wentry off with him

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts:542 - 22/01/2017 19:48:10   1947833

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Replying To Royalio11:  "Meath leading 0-04 to 0-02

20 minutes later they were trailing 0-10 to 0-04

Wake up RD.

Forde red was 20m from where I was standing. He ran into the fracas and launched both hands into the face of the Louth player who made a full meal out of it with the linesman in full view.

Red card all day.

That said I was surprised no other player wentry off with him"
Awake, so just tell me this was full front challenge in Reilly not a red before ? BTW didn't say it wasn't red. Forde went seriously up in my estimation today, great to see someone with balls getting involved, like the likes of mcentee gg McDermott or Lyons would have, also even gk came up, one in all in, fantastic attitude instead of the run and hide we became use to, Andy is obviously working on take no crap, rightly so.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11961 - 22/01/2017 20:15:27   1947847

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Ah RD did you really say that. Have always had great respect for Meath but is that not stretching it more than a tad. The nature of most GAA fans is to feel aggrieved. Some just more vocal than others."
Look the important thing was everyone went in, Meath if old style, shows passion. Now it was only handbags but still.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11961 - 22/01/2017 20:18:21   1947848

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Ah RD did you really say that. Have always had great respect for Meath but is that not stretching it more than a tad. The nature of most GAA fans is to feel aggrieved. Some just more vocal than others."
Look the important thing was everyone went in, Meath if old style, shows passion. Now it was only handbags but still.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11961 - 22/01/2017 20:18:31   1947849

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Ah RD did you really say that. Have always had great respect for Meath but is that not stretching it more than a tad. The nature of most GAA fans is to feel aggrieved. Some just more vocal than others."
Don't mind him, he's just standing up for his clubman. He better get used to being targeted after what happened in the Intermediate final. The frontal charge/block is always a yellow not a red. I agree he was targeted but your best player is always going to get targeted, it's not some airy fairy world we're living in.

Barney123 (Meath) - Posts:349 - 22/01/2017 20:24:48   1947860

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Yeah. Honesty if any other county player was subjected to those high hits Joe Duffy would be buzzing tomorrow. Yet it's our lad ,who went to defend him that gets red. Makes no sense, one rule for Meath another for everyone else."
Get over yourself RD. Put the violin away. Biggy is a tight lad.....well fit of it. He is going to have to be with the big bad Tyrone men they are playing next week. Should be a good game.
I think Cork will finish top. Galway will be up there. Fermanagh to stay up. I have a sneaky feeling down will be there in the shake up.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts:869 - 22/01/2017 20:47:58   1947882

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Cork if they get their act together are a ahead of any other team in this division. After that any one of the others could go up apart from Clare, with Galway probably second favourites.

Relegation looks like it will be Clare and one from Down, Kildare, & Meath possibly. Hard division to call though.

county man (Limerick) - Posts:995 - 23/01/2017 21:01:41   1948236

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