National - Does GAA get fair coverage compared to soccer and rugby

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "George is not the worst commentator indeed. I always expected that after he praised a player that he'd jinx them.

Not a big man, in stature, I once stood beside him in Tescos in Ballybrack in the very late 90s. I'm not that big a man myself, in stature, but I was much bigger than George. Seemed a nice enough chap even though we didn't speak. I digress."
These threads need more comments like this!! :)

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts:236 - 03/08/2016 21:51:48   1895074

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Replying To janesboro:  "Not once has any of their soccer or Rugby Union commentators/reporters ever been taken away from their proper sports jobs in RTE to fill in for someone else in another area of broadcasting

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:338 - 03/08/2016 20:31:47

didnt tom mcgurk fill in for vincent brown about 2 years ago"
According to his wikipedia page,yes...

" Currently[when?] he is a columnist with The Sunday Business Post. He has also guest presented Tonight with Vincent Browne. In 1972 he won a Jacob's Award for his RTÉ Radio documentaries on Ireland's islands.[4] He was the presenter of RTÉ Sport's coverage of the Six Nations. McGurk also spent time in the 1980s and 1990s as a presenter on the regional ITV station for the North West of England, Granada Television."

And apparently a poet aswell for good measure!

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts:236 - 03/08/2016 21:58:57   1895079

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i think daire o'brien did a programme called the eleventh hour for election 2011 coverage

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1416 - 03/08/2016 22:18:08   1895087

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RTE wouldn't dare question a Rugby Union international in the same way they questioned Diarmuid Connolly. That should be obvious to everyone by now.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:338 - 20/07/2016 17:29:38

well if CJ stander was put in front of the media two days after the incident you can be damn sure RTE or any reporter would be quizzing him about it ---

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1416 - 03/08/2016 22:20:36   1895089

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George Hook did the Right Hook for years on the wireless. It's finished now but he'll be on the afternoon show on Newstalk in September.

Brent pope writes childrens books.

Ronan O'Gara was a Tesco ambassador.

Tommy Bowe makes his own shoes.

I don't know where them rugby chaps get all the time to be doing all that stuff and analysing or playing the game. Remarkable stuff indeed.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3793 - 03/08/2016 23:02:57   1895107

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "George Hook did the Right Hook for years on the wireless. It's finished now but he'll be on the afternoon show on Newstalk in September.

Brent pope writes childrens books.

Ronan O'Gara was a Tesco ambassador.

Tommy Bowe makes his own shoes.

I don't know where them rugby chaps get all the time to be doing all that stuff and analysing or playing the game. Remarkable stuff indeed."
Witchcraft is the only explanation I can think of.

And we forgot about Eamon Dunphy and his dalliances with talk-radio and late night tv chat shows.

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts:236 - 04/08/2016 06:45:13   1895139

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Between Tuesday and Wednesday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport Gaelic Games received a grand total of 5 seconds coverage (Terry Hyland's resignation). This within 48 hours of the All-Ireland Hurling SF and within 36 hours of the All-Ireland Football QF's games that will bring over 100,000 spectators to Croke Park. Sport doesn't get much bigger.

Compare that to 6.01's coverage of Rugny Union over the same to days. On Tuesday 6.01 featured Leinster Rugby Union's preparations for their next competitive game which is over 4 weeks away. On Wednesday 6.01 featured Munster Rugby Union's preparations for their next competitive game which is also over 4 weeks away. These features which included interviews and VT of the teams in training totalled 2 minutes and 50 seconds between them.

So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored. Another good example of RTE promoting Rugby Union ahead of Football/hurling.

Looking forward to the red herrings our Rugby Union posters will come up with in response to this example of RTE bias towards its favourite son.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 04/08/2016 09:55:38   1895187

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Interesting to see rte had to apologise for people not been able to access the Connacht final replay on the rte player did to technical problems, off course if the had shown it on tv as the should this would not have been a problem.
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:607 - 02/08/2016 19:03:25
Yet ou know for certain they were able to show this game live on tv then? They provided coverage via a stream. some weren't able to watch it but that doesn't mean RTE were wrong to not show It on tv"
The were able to show it on tv, the were wrong not to show it on tv and the did not have the technical ability to even show it on the limited platform the had it on. That not even to mention all the people who don't have internet/ can't get it/ or have it but don't have the speed to watch a live match. Interesting to see that rte news now are going to show extensive coverage from rio.

ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:960 - 04/08/2016 10:05:28   1895199

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mediaman
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage - are they showing either teams next matches? thats hardly excellent coverage
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
Completely ignored eh-rte will be showing kilkenny v waterford and highlights of dubs v donegal,mayo v tyrone and limerick v dublin (COYBIG!!) , yep completely ignoring it they are

One of the biggest non international rugby games in the world will be on saturday - rte will not be showing any of this -if they were as biased as mediaman says then they would be showing some bit of coverage wouldnt they? e.g highlights, clip of scores etc

Looking forward to the red herrings MEdiaman will come up with in showing his anti rte anti rugby bias or maybe he will respond to a poster!!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1416 - 04/08/2016 10:06:58   1895200

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Between Tuesday and Wednesday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport Gaelic Games received a grand total of 5 seconds coverage (Terry Hyland's resignation). This within 48 hours of the All-Ireland Hurling SF and within 36 hours of the All-Ireland Football QF's games that will bring over 100,000 spectators to Croke Park. Sport doesn't get much bigger.
Compare that to 6.01's coverage of Rugny Union over the same to days. On Tuesday 6.01 featured Leinster Rugby Union's preparations for their next competitive game which is over 4 weeks away. On Wednesday 6.01 featured Munster Rugby Union's preparations for their next competitive game which is also over 4 weeks away. These features which included interviews and VT of the teams in training totalled 2 minutes and 50 seconds between them.
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored. Another good example of RTE promoting Rugby Union ahead of Football/hurling.
Looking forward to the red herrings our Rugby Union posters will come up with in response to this example of RTE bias towards its favourite son.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:339 - 04/08/2016 09:55:38
Leinster and Munster rugby are full time operations. The RTE rugby staff can cover these sides as is their job and do so during normal working hours, 9-5 and prepare pieces ready for the 6.01 and 9 o clock news bulletins. GAA teams involve in the majority of cases a lot of people who have full time jobs and therefore can only train in the evening time too late for pieces to be made for the news. Gaelic and Hurling are not at all ignored but their coverage is very different because you are comparing amateur and professional teams.
Pointing out that amateur and professional sports teams are covered differently by the media is not a red herring it is expressing basic facts that you are unable to grasp.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts:13080 - 04/08/2016 12:24:23   1895356

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Between Tuesday and Wednesday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport Gaelic Games received a grand total of 5 seconds coverage (Terry Hyland's resignation). This within 48 hours of the All-Ireland Hurling SF and within 36 hours of the All-Ireland Football QF's

I like these facts

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4348 - 04/08/2016 12:45:35   1895381

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Replying To janesboro:  "mediaman
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage - are they showing either teams next matches? thats hardly excellent coverage
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
Completely ignored eh-rte will be showing kilkenny v waterford and highlights of dubs v donegal,mayo v tyrone and limerick v dublin (COYBIG!!) , yep completely ignoring it they are

One of the biggest non international rugby games in the world will be on saturday - rte will not be showing any of this -if they were as biased as mediaman says then they would be showing some bit of coverage wouldnt they? e.g highlights, clip of scores etc

Looking forward to the red herrings MEdiaman will come up with in showing his anti rte anti rugby bias or maybe he will respond to a poster!!"
janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made..why are leinster and munster receiving coverage when they havent games for months?..you point out rte are indeed showing games this weekend and there is other big games on another broadcaster..you would imagine they would be hyping them up to the last in normal circumstances..if this was leinster or munster in a big match then you know full well they would and to pretend other wise is not being objective and fair

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1803 - 04/08/2016 13:00:14   1895409

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Replying To janesboro:  "mediaman
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage - are they showing either teams next matches? thats hardly excellent coverage
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
Completely ignored eh-rte will be showing kilkenny v waterford and highlights of dubs v donegal,mayo v tyrone and limerick v dublin (COYBIG!!) , yep completely ignoring it they are

One of the biggest non international rugby games in the world will be on saturday - rte will not be showing any of this -if they were as biased as mediaman says then they would be showing some bit of coverage wouldnt they? e.g highlights, clip of scores etc

Looking forward to the red herrings MEdiaman will come up with in showing his anti rte anti rugby bias or maybe he will respond to a poster!!"
not irish rugby and dont have to rights to it..pretty simple stuff but you are that biased and your points are that childish focusing on cheap point scoring 'so there' mediaman

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1803 - 04/08/2016 13:01:12   1895413

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Between Tuesday and Wednesday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport Gaelic Games received a grand total of 5 seconds coverage (Terry Hyland's resignation). This within 48 hours of the All-Ireland Hurling SF and within 36 hours of the All-Ireland Football QF's games that will bring over 100,000 spectators to Croke Park. Sport doesn't get much bigger.
Compare that to 6.01's coverage of Rugny Union over the same to days. On Tuesday 6.01 featured Leinster Rugby Union's preparations for their next competitive game which is over 4 weeks away. On Wednesday 6.01 featured Munster Rugby Union's preparations for their next competitive game which is also over 4 weeks away. These features which included interviews and VT of the teams in training totalled 2 minutes and 50 seconds between them.
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored. Another good example of RTE promoting Rugby Union ahead of Football/hurling.
Looking forward to the red herrings our Rugby Union posters will come up with in response to this example of RTE bias towards its favourite son.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:339 - 04/08/2016 09:55:38
Leinster and Munster rugby are full time operations. The RTE rugby staff can cover these sides as is their job and do so during normal working hours, 9-5 and prepare pieces ready for the 6.01 and 9 o clock news bulletins. GAA teams involve in the majority of cases a lot of people who have full time jobs and therefore can only train in the evening time too late for pieces to be made for the news. Gaelic and Hurling are not at all ignored but their coverage is very different because you are comparing amateur and professional teams.
Pointing out that amateur and professional sports teams are covered differently by the media is not a red herring it is expressing basic facts that you are unable to grasp."
yep the same spin put out there by the likes of you..you arent an objective poster so what you have to say simply doesnt hold much weight...you are extremely pro rugby...the idea that rte cant hype the games up is simply laughable...look at what they managed to do for a meath hurling match..when controversy and negative stories are there to be told there seems to be no issue about the gaa being amateur...your point has already been batted back but again you refuse to acknowledge it and keep saying the same spin..why are people here so pro-rte?...nobody is having much of a dig at rugby..its the coverage its getting..any reasonable sports fan knows well the coverage they get is completely disproportionate to the popularity of the sport especially when compared with gaa and soccer

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1803 - 04/08/2016 13:05:08   1895418

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Replying To alano12:  "[quote=janesboro:  "mediaman
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage - are they showing either teams next matches? thats hardly excellent coverage
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.
Completely ignored eh-rte will be showing kilkenny v waterford and highlights of dubs v donegal,mayo v tyrone and limerick v dublin (COYBIG!!) , yep completely ignoring it they are

One of the biggest non international rugby games in the world will be on saturday - rte will not be showing any of this -if they were as biased as mediaman says then they would be showing some bit of coverage wouldnt they? e.g highlights, clip of scores etc

Looking forward to the red herrings MEdiaman will come up with in showing his anti rte anti rugby bias or maybe he will respond to a poster!!"
janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made..why are leinster and munster receiving coverage when they havent games for months?..you point out rte are indeed showing games this weekend and there is other big games on another broadcaster..you would imagine they would be hyping them up to the last in normal circumstances..if this was leinster or munster in a big match then you know full well they would and to pretend other wise is not being objective and fair"]alano - mediaman has stated as follows
and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored.

i fail to see how these teams are being ignored when the matches are being shown at the weekend either live or in highlights form. In fact 8 teams with massive games including Dublin v Limerick minors will be covered by rte this weekend

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1416 - 04/08/2016 13:19:39   1895434

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janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made..why are leinster and munster receiving coverage when they havent games for months?..you point out rte are indeed showing games this weekend and there is other big games on another broadcaster..you would imagine they would be hyping them up to the last in normal circumstances..if this was leinster or munster in a big match then you know full well they would and to pretend other wise is not being objective and fair
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:00:14
They are professional teams back in training for the new season. They start their new season a week/two weeks time. RTE are "hyping up" these games on this weekend.
yep the same spin put out there by the likes of you..you arent an objective poster so what you have to say simply doesnt hold much weight...you are extremely pro rugby...the idea that rte cant hype the games up is simply laughable...look at what they managed to do for a meath hurling match..when controversy and negative stories are there to be told there seems to be no issue about the gaa being amateur...your point has already been batted back but again you refuse to acknowledge it and keep saying the same spin..why are people here so pro-rte?...nobody is having much of a dig at rugby..its the coverage its getting..any reasonable sports fan knows well the coverage they get is completely disproportionate to the popularity of the sport especially when compared with gaa and soccer
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:05:08
If I am not an objective poster then you are not either
What is the definition for the exact coverage a sport should be getting in the media? How do you divide up the time that each sport or sporting organisation should be getting?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts:13080 - 04/08/2016 13:21:31   1895435

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not irish rugby and dont have to rights to it..pretty simple stuff but you are that biased and your points are that childish focusing on cheap point scoring 'so there' mediaman

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:350 - 04/08/2016 13:01:12 1

how am i biased - i love hurling football and rugby in equal measure -can somebody not like more than one sport

how are my points childish - mediaman referes to rugby as its favourite son - i am merely making the point that if it was the case then some coverage of the super rugby final would be on rte via showing e.g. clips from scores

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1416 - 04/08/2016 13:23:44   1895440

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Alano -janesboro in fairness you still arent being objective...debate the points he made.

ok lets debate thee point he has made - mediaman say "So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage"
i am of the view that not showing live pro12 does not constitute excellent coverage
Showing live Gaa Matches is excellent coverage
he is offering a view and i am offering another

i note when mediaman made his red herrings comment you did not refer to him as being childish

lets debate a further point he made
he referred to diarmuid connelly being questionedby rte over the incident in westmeath game and compared it to CJ stander- i made the counterpoint that if stander was in front of the media 2 days after his red card he would certainly have been questioned over it

heaven forbid i should have an opposing opinion to you

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1416 - 04/08/2016 13:29:47   1895446

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alano yep the same spin put out there by the likes of you..you arent an objective poster so what you have to say simply doesnt hold much weight...you are extremely pro rugby.

he is entitled to his point of view (you dont have to agree with it -i have disagreed with the guy myself and vice versa nothing wrong with that) - why does what he has to say not hold much weight ? should you opinion or mine hold more weight ?
i suspect Ormondbannerman is pro gaa too - lets ask him ORmondbannerman are you Pro GAA

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1416 - 04/08/2016 13:33:25   1895449

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Replying To alano12:  "[quote=ormondbannerman:  "Between Tuesday and Wednesday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport Gaelic Games received a grand total of 5 seconds coverage (Terry Hyland's resignation). This within 48 hours of the All-Ireland Hurling SF and within 36 hours of the All-Ireland Football QF's games that will bring over 100,000 spectators to Croke Park. Sport doesn't get much bigger.
Compare that to 6.01's coverage of Rugny Union over the same to days. On Tuesday 6.01 featured Leinster Rugby Union's preparations for their next competitive game which is over 4 weeks away. On Wednesday 6.01 featured Munster Rugby Union's preparations for their next competitive game which is also over 4 weeks away. These features which included interviews and VT of the teams in training totalled 2 minutes and 50 seconds between them.
So 2 Rugby Union teams without competitive games for over a month are given excellent coverage and 6 teams (4 football and 2 hurling) with massive competitive games in a few days time are completely ignored. Another good example of RTE promoting Rugby Union ahead of Football/hurling.
Looking forward to the red herrings our Rugby Union posters will come up with in response to this example of RTE bias towards its favourite son.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:339 - 04/08/2016 09:55:38
Leinster and Munster rugby are full time operations. The RTE rugby staff can cover these sides as is their job and do so during normal working hours, 9-5 and prepare pieces ready for the 6.01 and 9 o clock news bulletins. GAA teams involve in the majority of cases a lot of people who have full time jobs and therefore can only train in the evening time too late for pieces to be made for the news. Gaelic and Hurling are not at all ignored but their coverage is very different because you are comparing amateur and professional teams.
Pointing out that amateur and professional sports teams are covered differently by the media is not a red herring it is expressing basic facts that you are unable to grasp."
yep the same spin put out there by the likes of you..you arent an objective poster so what you have to say simply doesnt hold much weight...you are extremely pro rugby...the idea that rte cant hype the games up is simply laughable...look at what they managed to do for a meath hurling match..when controversy and negative stories are there to be told there seems to be no issue about the gaa being amateur...your point has already been batted back but again you refuse to acknowledge it and keep saying the same spin..why are people here so pro-rte?...nobody is having much of a dig at rugby..its the coverage its getting..any reasonable sports fan knows well the coverage they get is completely disproportionate to the popularity of the sport especially when compared with gaa and soccer"]In fairness Ormond is pro-Rugby, that's his sport, what's wrong with that? He's extremely knowledgeable about rugby. He's also pro-GAA and knowledgeable about it and indeed knowledgeable about a lot of sports. So are you by the way Alano, not having a go at you. Live and let live lads. Life's too short. If you dislike another posters like of sport then a bit of jovial banter is grand but relax the kax. Even you too Mediaman. I don't agree with most of what you post here but I respect your opinion. As for Rio, who would want to watch most athletes, suspected of juicing over a provincial final, I don't know. But it still appeals to a wide audience. And Winifer Fernandez. Remember that name.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3793 - 04/08/2016 13:50:29   1895470

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