National - Does GAA get fair coverage compared to soccer and rugby

Still on the Diarmuid Connolly interview on RTE's 6.01 News and Sport on Tuesday. Compare RTE's treatment of Connolly who was essentially asked by the interviewer to show remorse/regret for his yellow card actions to RTE's questioning of Irish Rugby Union international C.J. Stander who received a red card for almost decapitating an opponent in a 'friendly' match in June.

Of course that's right. Unlike with Diarmuid Connolly RTE didn't subject the Rugby Union player to any form of questioning about the incident which concussed Pat Lambie and means the young South African misses next weekend's important play-off match for his club. RTE wouldn't dare question a Rugby Union international in the same way they questioned Diarmuid Connolly. That should be obvious to everyone by now.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 20/07/2016 17:29:38   1887167

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Replying To bumpernut:  "Yes sir, no sir, uncle tom"
I like the great coverage that RTE gives GAA. It is a great boost for local economies and means alot of foreign tourists in Dublin when Antrim and Tyrone etc are successful

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4330 - 20/07/2016 18:04:25   1887188

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Replying To mediaman:  "The journalists who work on the nation's most viewed daily News and Sport programme RTE's 6.01 News and Sport make choices about what to show and what questions to ask every day of the week. For example at yesterday's Press Conference Diarmuid Connolly could have been asked about how good if felt to be on only the third team in the 126 year history of the Leinster SFC to win 6 in-a-row football titles (Wexford 1913-1918 and Dublin 1974-1979 were the others). Or he could have been asked to express his delight at Dublin's continuing defensive strength despite the loss of Rory O'Carroll, Jack Mc Caffrey and now James McCarthy. Instead the journalists in RTE decided to ignore the positives and concentrate on the negative i.e. his yellow card against Westmeath. Yellow mind you. Not black or red just yellow.

Of course this selective bias presents our games in a negative light and is in keeping with the general tone of negativity (on RTE's most important TV news programme) evident throughout the summer. All too often it's a case of either negative coverage or no coverage at all. The really worrying thing about it is that these same journalists are fully aware of this thread but continue to ignore what it's telling them."
The Connolly incident was main taking point across all media not just RTE. Even before the final whistle there were several threads about it on HS. Of course maybe the posters on HS are anti GAA too. Ha ha

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4330 - 20/07/2016 18:07:21   1887191

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Of course Mediaman is right. The same thought struck me. Dont forget this was the launch of the All Ireland series and RTE decided to show the Diarmuid Connolly incident not once or twice but three times. When RTE are launching the next Six Nations will we see the nasty incidents from the Ireland Scotland match? Perhaps a triple dose of the melee following the last Ireland try. Unlikely. Yet this is standard fare for GAA matches. We've already had the melee from a few years ago used to preview the Armagh Cavan match. And it's not as though there were not many positive images to choose from. For instance the Diarmuid O Connor goal from the previous week which I had the pleasure of seeing live. link There were I imagine many similar exhibitions of skill from the other matches to choose from but that would of course not fit with the RTE narrative.

mod (Mayo) - Posts:851 - 20/07/2016 21:49:47   1887292

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A few of the top topics on hoganstand forum tonight;

"The slow demise of Galway football"

"When was Gaelic Football last considered good"

"Rule changes to counter negative tactics"

"Provincial championships have to go"

"Leinster football a dead duck?"

"What's wrong with Down football??"



If we want to complain about rte negativity, how about looking at our own negativity aswell?

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts:198 - 20/07/2016 23:07:17   1887338

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Replying To extranjero:  "A few of the top topics on hoganstand forum tonight;

"The slow demise of Galway football"

"When was Gaelic Football last considered good"

"Rule changes to counter negative tactics"

"Provincial championships have to go"

"Leinster football a dead duck?"

"What's wrong with Down football??"



If we want to complain about rte negativity, how about looking at our own negativity aswell?"
Sure it's all the fault of RTE's 6.01 News and Sport

jimski (Kildare) - Posts:284 - 20/07/2016 23:15:52   1887341

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "I like the great coverage that RTE gives GAA. It is a great boost for local economies and means alot of foreign tourists in Dublin when Antrim and Tyrone etc are successful"
tickle* tickle*

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1600 - 21/07/2016 11:17:32   1887478

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Yesterday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport failed to mention today's two Round 4 Qualifiers in football. Is that because they don't really care or is it because Sky Sports is showing both matches? Either way RTE are paid a considerable amount by us to keep us up to date with major news/sports events such as today's two matches. Even to give the times and venues of the matches as they regularly do for other sports would be something. However failing to do so highlights either their unprofessional attitude to, in this case, football or their small mindedness in relation to Sky. Probably both.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 23/07/2016 12:26:48   1888476

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Comparing rugby and gaelic football is similar to comparing stock car racing and formula one. Rugby, league or union, is a collision based attritional sport where one of the main objects of the game is to hurt your opponent. Gaelic football is skill based where the rules prohibit or limit collisions. Though both now have lost a lot of their skills with an emphasis on S&C. Leading to bigger athletes, a more defensive game with an emphasis on not losing rather than skilful flair players who can back up their skills and go and win games.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3404 - 23/07/2016 13:24:23   1888501

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Yesterday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport failed to mention today's two Round 4 Qualifiers in football. Is that because they don't really care or is it because Sky Sports is showing both matches? Either way RTE are paid a considerable amount by us to keep us up to date with major news/sports events such as today's two matches. Even to give the times and venues of the matches as they regularly do for other sports would be something. However failing to do so highlights either their unprofessional attitude to, in this case, football or their small mindedness in relation to Sky. Probably both.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:335 - 23/07/2016 12:26:48
Why not talk to people within the GAA or try arrange a meeting with media representatives if you feel so strongly about an alleged bias.
Why not try arrange meetings or a discussion forum directly within the GAA like represent your club and bring it up at county meetings so it can be discussed by central council or at congress? One where you use your own name and not a pseudonym

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts:12861 - 23/07/2016 13:24:36   1888502

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At last after almost three months of negative (or neutral) hurling/football stories on every Monday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport this evening's programme featured a positive story that is Tipperary's stunning QF win over Galway. Let's hope this marks a turning point in the programme's previous 'Monday moan' attitude to our games.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 01/08/2016 21:32:39   1893768

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fair due to you mediaman for reporting yesterdays report on the tipp win as being positive -enjoyed it myself to be honest

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1267 - 02/08/2016 12:59:27   1893997

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Replying To mediaman:  "At last after almost three months of negative (or neutral) hurling/football stories on every Monday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport this evening's programme featured a positive story that is Tipperary's stunning QF win over Galway. Let's hope this marks a turning point in the programme's previous 'Monday moan' attitude to our games."
maybe theyre getting your message after all mediaman!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1600 - 02/08/2016 15:54:46   1894106

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Interesting to see rte had to apologise for people not been able to access the Connacht final replay on the rte player did to technical problems, off course if the had shown it on tv as the should this would not have been a problem.

ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:886 - 02/08/2016 19:03:25   1894229

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Interesting to see rte had to apologise for people not been able to access the Connacht final replay on the rte player did to technical problems, off course if the had shown it on tv as the should this would not have been a problem.
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:607 - 02/08/2016 19:03:25
Yet ou know for certain they were able to show this game live on tv then? They provided coverage via a stream. some weren't able to watch it but that doesn't mean RTE were wrong to not show It on tv

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts:12861 - 02/08/2016 22:03:19   1894349

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Just 3 days out from the biggest sporting weekend of the year so far and not a mention yet of either the football QF's or the hurling SF on the 6.01 News and Sport. No surprise there.

Of course It should be the busiest time of the year for RTE's Gaelic Games Correspondent Marty Morrissey so why oh why is he spending this week filling in on the Ryan Tubridy Show when he should be out concentrating exclusively on next weekend's massive games. Already this year RTE has taken Marty away from his proper job to cover Bloom in the Park and one of the Nationwide programmes. Now it's a Light Entertainment radio programme. It doesn't send out a very positive message to Gaelic Games followers.

Compare Marty's treatment to that of RTE's other sports reporters. Not once has any of their soccer or Rugby Union commentators/reporters ever been taken away from their proper sports jobs in RTE to fill in for someone else in another area of broadcasting. Sadly it's another indicator of RTE's attitude to our games and their coverage. Anything is good enough for us.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 03/08/2016 20:31:47   1895031

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Just 3 days out from the biggest sporting weekend of the year so far and not a mention yet of either the football QF's or the hurling SF on the 6.01 News and Sport. No surprise there.
Of course It should be the busiest time of the year for RTE's Gaelic Games Correspondent Marty Morrissey so why oh why is he spending this week filling in on the Ryan Tubridy Show when he should be out concentrating exclusively on next weekend's massive games. Already this year RTE has taken Marty away from his proper job to cover Bloom in the Park and one of the Nationwide programmes. Now it's a Light Entertainment radio programme. It doesn't send out a very positive message to Gaelic Games followers.
Compare Marty's treatment to that of RTE's other sports reporters. Not once has any of their soccer or Rugby Union commentators/reporters ever been taken away from their proper sports jobs in RTE to fill in for someone else in another area of broadcasting. Sadly it's another indicator of RTE's attitude to our games and their coverage. Anything is good enough for us.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:338 - 03/08/2016 20:31:47
A lot of sports commentators for RTE will be on the way or in Rio for Olympics so that's an issue. What exactly should Marty Morrissey be doing in exclusive coverage of the games at the weekends? Ryan Tubridys radio show is a morning show when most players will be working and Marty can still prep and work towards next weekends games while also covering Tubs radio show.
Darragh Moloney/Peter Collins will be taken away from where they normally cover in sport to cover the Olympics. Same with a lot of other journalists who cover other sports
Its also August, traditionally the deadest month for news, so there will be many on holidays and that is also a factor

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts:12861 - 03/08/2016 20:45:33   1895036

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Replying To mediaman:  "Just 3 days out from the biggest sporting weekend of the year so far and not a mention yet of either the football QF's or the hurling SF on the 6.01 News and Sport. No surprise there.

Of course It should be the busiest time of the year for RTE's Gaelic Games Correspondent Marty Morrissey so why oh why is he spending this week filling in on the Ryan Tubridy Show when he should be out concentrating exclusively on next weekend's massive games. Already this year RTE has taken Marty away from his proper job to cover Bloom in the Park and one of the Nationwide programmes. Now it's a Light Entertainment radio programme. It doesn't send out a very positive message to Gaelic Games followers.

Compare Marty's treatment to that of RTE's other sports reporters. Not once has any of their soccer or Rugby Union commentators/reporters ever been taken away from their proper sports jobs in RTE to fill in for someone else in another area of broadcasting. Sadly it's another indicator of RTE's attitude to our games and their coverage. Anything is good enough for us."
George Hamilton has a a slot on lyric fm, every Saturday I think, according to my parents who like that kinda thing he's very good at it too! In fact I think my mother would consider him more a classical music dj than sports commentator

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts:198 - 03/08/2016 20:55:21   1895046

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Replying To extranjero:  "George Hamilton has a a slot on lyric fm, every Saturday I think, according to my parents who like that kinda thing he's very good at it too! In fact I think my mother would consider him more a classical music dj than sports commentator"
George is not the worst commentator indeed. I always expected that after he praised a player that he'd jinx them.

Not a big man, in stature, I once stood beside him in Tescos in Ballybrack in the very late 90s. I'm not that big a man myself, in stature, but I was much bigger than George. Seemed a nice enough chap even though we didn't speak. I digress.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3404 - 03/08/2016 21:34:42   1895062

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Not once has any of their soccer or Rugby Union commentators/reporters ever been taken away from their proper sports jobs in RTE to fill in for someone else in another area of broadcasting

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:338 - 03/08/2016 20:31:47

didnt tom mcgurk fill in for vincent brown about 2 years ago

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1267 - 03/08/2016 21:42:40   1895068

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