National - Tyrone for Sam 2017

Replying To waynoI:  "Wins us a lot more than it loses us chief!!

Dublins results since Jim Gavin took over where we scored 10 points or less in a game

2014 - Dublin 2-8 v 1-10 Kerry
2014 - Tyrone 1-15 v 3-10 Dublin
2015 - Dublin 2-10 v 0-11 Donegal
2015 - Dublin 1-09 v 0-12 Tyrone
2015 - Dublin 0-08 v 0-04 Derry
2016 - Mayo 0-07 v 0-09 Dublin
2016 - Dublin 1-10 v 0-07 Donegal
2016 - Mayo 0-15 v 2-09 Dublin
2017 - Dublin 0-10 v 1-07 Tyrone

Unbeaten in 8 games against some brilliant opposition there while scoring 10 points or less in those games...

Now yea, If you want to pedantic you can say we scored goals in a lot of those games... So, Take out the games where we scored goals and we won 2 of the 3, only blemish is last nights result where we missed a penalty.

Worth noting by the way that Tyrone in our last 3 league meetings have kept us to 10 points or less, winning a grand total of none of those games.

Also worth noting that in those years (13, 14, 15, 16) we scored lowly in certain games and still went on to lift the national league

In one (Mayo 2016) we even managed to score less than 10 points against Mayo in an all Ireland semi final, not score the two goals ourselves, and still go on to win the all Ireland.

So, a long winded answer to your very simple question, 10 points has proven to win this side a lot of games and titles.

Get back in your box!!"
Stats are history .See you in summer :)

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts:400 - 12/02/2017 20:47:49   1955600

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Tyrone are masters at disrupting the flow of other sides and I don't think I have seen a team unsettle this Dublin side as much as them, maybe apart from Mayo. However Tyrone don't have the attacking resources of Dublin, Mayo and Kerry and that will continue to hinder them. If this Tyrone team had a Canavan or O'Neill they would the real deal. They are very skillful, fast and mobile but in the final 3rd they are not good enough. So that's me just stating the obvious then."
I can't believe I'm saying this..... But I agree with you Ulsterman.. They won't beat us in a championship game but they won't take a hiding either .. Dublin are just streetwise and never know when they are beaten. for me the best chance Tyrone had of beating Dublin was last night. They where 5 up with 10 to go and they didn't see it out

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts:12331 - 12/02/2017 21:14:47   1955655

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Replying To waynoI:  "I can't believe I'm saying this..... But I agree with you Ulsterman.. They won't beat us in a championship game but they won't take a hiding either .. Dublin are just streetwise and never know when they are beaten. for me the best chance Tyrone had of beating Dublin was last night. They where 5 up with 10 to go and they didn't see it out"
Sending off upset our attacking cooper making a meal of a push so anyone from dublin in future not give out about diving when they do it

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts:14955 - 13/02/2017 14:04:07   1956144

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Replying To alano12:  "on a side note what exactly happened with bradley as the tv camera moved off the incident while cooper had him on the ground and didnt show what happened after?"
Cooper dived with a push . And you lot accuse tyrone of it the irony

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts:14955 - 13/02/2017 14:06:41   1956147

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Dubs & commentators keep saying Tyrone could not hold out for 10 mins - it was 16 mins (6 added - so Dubs could make a come back)

TireoghainLim (Limerick) - Posts:5 - 13/02/2017 15:22:33   1956207

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Replying To TireoghainLim:  "Dubs & commentators keep saying Tyrone could not hold out for 10 mins - it was 16 mins (6 added - so Dubs could make a come back)"
More paranoia! Perhaps educate yourself with the rules and you'll see where the 6 added minutes came from.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts:3322 - 13/02/2017 16:21:11   1956247

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Replying To Jackeen:  "More paranoia! Perhaps educate yourself with the rules and you'll see where the 6 added minutes came from."
Few subs made so 6 minutes is quite normal nowadays .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts:14955 - 13/02/2017 17:00:42   1956271

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Few subs made so 6 minutes is quite normal nowadays ."
Exactly Del sure we had it in the AI final too. Almost 7 mins.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts:3322 - 13/02/2017 17:14:12   1956276

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re extra time and rules and the like
on the GAA.ie website under the heading Rules it says

For detailed information on the Playing Rules of Hurling and Football, equipment specifications and more, visit the Rules & Specifications page in the Coaching & Games Development section.

click the link and it says

OOPS!
Sorry, it looks like your journey has taken a wrong turn. Please use the menu above to navigate to the area of the site you are looking for.

Kinda says it all
no wonder there are over 1000 posts about Rugby on Hoganstand forums

cjx (Tyrone) - Posts:235 - 13/02/2017 21:26:20   1956413

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Replying To ulster83:  "I agree with all of this it will take something very special to stop this current Tyrone team from dominating for the next 2/3 years.
With Dublin starting to tire it seems like we will be the team to beat this year.

For me there are really only ourselves and Dublin as genuine all Ireland contenders. Then you have Kerry, Donegal and maybe Mayo as maybes who could all the way, but for Me Tyrone are fast becoming a better version of the current Dublin team"
This made me smile Tyrone are fast becoming a better version of the current Dublin team

Which Dublin team though?

The Dublin A Team, B Team or O'Byrne cup team? :D

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts:819 - 13/02/2017 22:19:20   1956439

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It's going to be a fantastic challenge if and it's a big both Tyrone and Dublin get to an AI semi, don't think Ulster will be straight forward though and I'd hate come across Tyrone in a quaterfinal.

Seems like Micky Harte has a system for the Dubs, I think I am right in saying Jim Galvins Dublin haven't beaten Tyrone during his reign, so that adds an extra spice.

I'm looking forward to the challenge to be honest, as always the last game is gone and you look to within to overcome the challenge, much learning and plenty to take from Saturdays for Dublin. They know a game is in the post, so Saturday was excellent expierence.

Tyrone are very close, I'll be interested to see how they make par with Kerry and Mayo.

The one thing if you play this system with Dublin is you have to outscore them, that's a tricky thing to do, Mayo and Kerry both got close last year playing defensive football, but couldn't outscore Dublin or contain them for 70 mins +, a team that does contain Dublin and isnt jacked by 55mins and the defensive effort doesn't take to much away from forward play will be very adjacent to an all Ireland. If it can be done.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts:823 - 13/02/2017 23:09:26   1956465

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Replying To TheUsername:  "It's going to be a fantastic challenge if and it's a big both Tyrone and Dublin get to an AI semi, don't think Ulster will be straight forward though and I'd hate come across Tyrone in a quaterfinal.

Seems like Micky Harte has a system for the Dubs, I think I am right in saying Jim Galvins Dublin haven't beaten Tyrone during his reign, so that adds an extra spice.

I'm looking forward to the challenge to be honest, as always the last game is gone and you look to within to overcome the challenge, much learning and plenty to take from Saturdays for Dublin. They know a game is in the post, so Saturday was excellent expierence.

Tyrone are very close, I'll be interested to see how they make par with Kerry and Mayo.

The one thing if you play this system with Dublin is you have to outscore them, that's a tricky thing to do, Mayo and Kerry both got close last year playing defensive football, but couldn't outscore Dublin or contain them for 70 mins +, a team that does contain Dublin and isnt jacked by 55mins and the defensive effort doesn't take to much away from forward play will be very adjacent to an all Ireland. If it can be done."
Dublin just have better forwards than Tyrone - as of now.
They equalled Tyrone in scoring with a lot less chances.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts:1679 - 14/02/2017 01:43:05   1956482

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Replying To TheUsername:  "It's going to be a fantastic challenge if and it's a big both Tyrone and Dublin get to an AI semi, don't think Ulster will be straight forward though and I'd hate come across Tyrone in a quaterfinal.

Seems like Micky Harte has a system for the Dubs, I think I am right in saying Jim Galvins Dublin haven't beaten Tyrone during his reign, so that adds an extra spice.

I'm looking forward to the challenge to be honest, as always the last game is gone and you look to within to overcome the challenge, much learning and plenty to take from Saturdays for Dublin. They know a game is in the post, so Saturday was excellent expierence.

Tyrone are very close, I'll be interested to see how they make par with Kerry and Mayo.

The one thing if you play this system with Dublin is you have to outscore them, that's a tricky thing to do, Mayo and Kerry both got close last year playing defensive football, but couldn't outscore Dublin or contain them for 70 mins +, a team that does contain Dublin and isnt jacked by 55mins and the defensive effort doesn't take to much away from forward play will be very adjacent to an all Ireland. If it can be done."
Dublin have beaten Tyrone twice in gavin reign 2013 league Final and again in omagh.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts:631 - 14/02/2017 04:27:47   1956488

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Re Tyrone spending 480k - Mayo 1.6m
Mayo with the final replay were probably 8 weeks longer in the championship than Tyrone last year yet spent 1.1m more - How can this be ?
Tyrone would always come across as a well prepared team with a professional set up
The basics like mileage etc are paid to all players in all counties at the same rate - Each team has meals after each training session , pre match meals , travel by buses to games , overnight stays for the longer trips etc . Tyrone would have the usual backup support re conditioning + fitness , nutrition , medical & physio , video + match analysis etc
Tyrone would have at least 1/2 weekend aways for a training camp every season - If mayo did go abroad for one of these 50k covers the bulk of that
so are the likes of mayo , Dublin , Tipp Hurlers actually paying their players or how can anyone explain the 1.1m difference between mayo + tyrone

FrankAnnyalla (Monaghan) - Posts:283 - 28/02/2017 12:35:51   1962023

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Replying To FrankAnnyalla:  "Re Tyrone spending 480k - Mayo 1.6m
Mayo with the final replay were probably 8 weeks longer in the championship than Tyrone last year yet spent 1.1m more - How can this be ?
Tyrone would always come across as a well prepared team with a professional set up
The basics like mileage etc are paid to all players in all counties at the same rate - Each team has meals after each training session , pre match meals , travel by buses to games , overnight stays for the longer trips etc . Tyrone would have the usual backup support re conditioning + fitness , nutrition , medical & physio , video + match analysis etc
Tyrone would have at least 1/2 weekend aways for a training camp every season - If mayo did go abroad for one of these 50k covers the bulk of that
so are the likes of mayo , Dublin , Tipp Hurlers actually paying their players or how can anyone explain the 1.1m difference between mayo + tyrone"
Another question is - how are these figures calculated? Is this what the county board spends on running their senior teams or does it inlude what the supporters clubs and sponsors also contribute?

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts:835 - 28/02/2017 16:03:34   1962165

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Ronan McNamee said today that they havent been funded sufficiently enough to win an All_Ireland and now Cavanagh has said that they are very well resourced?? which one is it??

All this talk in the media doesn't reflect well on Tyrone, should all be sorted behind closed doors between the County Board and Management team but there is obviously very little communication between the two. Harte and Jordan clearly dont see eye to eye.

TakeyourPoint. (Tyrone) - Posts:70 - 28/02/2017 17:28:32   1962224

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We need 2/3 and a freetaker. McAliskey is a loss.

MickeyMuller (Tyrone) - Posts:7 - 01/03/2017 18:32:24   1962587

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*forwards

MickeyMuller (Tyrone) - Posts:7 - 01/03/2017 19:14:24   1962601

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Replying To FrankAnnyalla:  "Re Tyrone spending 480k - Mayo 1.6m
Mayo with the final replay were probably 8 weeks longer in the championship than Tyrone last year yet spent 1.1m more - How can this be ?
Tyrone would always come across as a well prepared team with a professional set up
The basics like mileage etc are paid to all players in all counties at the same rate - Each team has meals after each training session , pre match meals , travel by buses to games , overnight stays for the longer trips etc . Tyrone would have the usual backup support re conditioning + fitness , nutrition , medical & physio , video + match analysis etc
Tyrone would have at least 1/2 weekend aways for a training camp every season - If mayo did go abroad for one of these 50k covers the bulk of that
so are the likes of mayo , Dublin , Tipp Hurlers actually paying their players or how can anyone explain the 1.1m difference between mayo + tyrone"
A lot of Mayo's players are based in Dublin and elsewhere for work, so mileage, meals after training etc. would account for a decent chunk of the expenditure. Add in the fact that five Mayo teams got to All-Ireland finals last year and the expense mounts up very quickly.

Mayo raised €1.1 million through sponsorship and funding last season, so the net deficit was about €500k.

I'm not sure if a lot of Tyrone's players are based outside the county or not.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts:1264 - 02/03/2017 15:09:11   1962846

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Replying To Gleebo:  "A lot of Mayo's players are based in Dublin and elsewhere for work, so mileage, meals after training etc. would account for a decent chunk of the expenditure. Add in the fact that five Mayo teams got to All-Ireland finals last year and the expense mounts up very quickly.

Mayo raised €1.1 million through sponsorship and funding last season, so the net deficit was about €500k.

I'm not sure if a lot of Tyrone's players are based outside the county or not."
I'm told that Tyrone don't play any challenge matches - which is a money saver (maybe other counties should copy Tyrone)

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts:884 - 02/03/2017 17:15:55   1962891

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