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It's a killer to lose a game like that but when it's so close a one or two point lead is massive. Galway were 2 up with 10 - 15 to go and that was huge. We were left chasing the game, not the position you want to be in heading into the home strait.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/08/2017 13:57:49 2030227 Link 0 |
Anyone else think that canning should have received a second yellow long before he had a chance to get any winning scores? 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 07/08/2017 14:30:04 2030243 Link 1 |
If today's referees were in charge of the Tipp vs Galway games of the late 80s they would had ended 4 a side.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/08/2017 14:52:17 2030268 Link 3 |
We're not a bad crowd in fairness!! I'd love to see Limerick challenge too I'm on the border too and have lived and I work in Limerick. Socialize there many good mates in the treaty as well as family. Hopefully ye can get a few lads from the u21 panel blooded fast next 3 years in hurling could be excellent times if Limerick ,Clare and Wexford keep bringing on young lads who hold no fear. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 07/08/2017 15:38:02 2030311 Link 1 |
And just one final point on Galway I feel the last 3 years they have been the best team in the country to watch but just came up short against KK in 2015 and Tipp 2016 who were at their peak. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 07/08/2017 15:41:24 2030315 Link 1 |
anybody know if Mick Ryan will stay on? SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 07/08/2017 19:29:10 2030538 Link 0 |
Of course mick will stay,winnersast year on his first year,only piped in the semi of his second year,Ryan is a driven man,and will have tipp back again in 2018 Tipptipp (Tipperary) - Posts: 62 - 07/08/2017 19:31:59 2030542 Link 1 |
As far as I know he is, fingers crossed.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 07/08/2017 19:52:03 2030557 Link 0 |
Well done to Galway. The best team undoubtedly won the game. Tipp had more than enough chances to win it but it was a game riddled with errors and probably didn't live up to expectations. The Galway backs hurled pretty well but tipp has enough chances to win it. I haven't seen the match back on tv but their were some decisions I was annoyed with at the time. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/08/2017 19:59:30 2030562 Link 0 |
relax im only asking because i dont know and nothing official seems to have come out yet. I think he's a top manager and hope he does stay on
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 07/08/2017 20:07:38 2030571 Link 0 |
Also it's almost certain Tuohy will now miss the final. I think it's a very harsh rule but their was clear intent. Do Galway now need to shuffle their pack to replace him? He's a huge loss to Galway. They've a very settled side this year and his loss shouldn't be underestimated. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/08/2017 20:09:09 2030573 Link 0 |
Perfect way for Galway to qualify for the Final.Semis are there to be won.I think Galway will beat the winners of Cork/Waterford in the Final.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2162 - 07/08/2017 20:22:57 2030582 Link 0 |
Yes I agree 100%. Tipp were poor and lucky last year in the semi but my point is they will need to improve significantly to win it. Personally I still think cork are the team to beat and if they get through and Tuohy is out they could certainly win it. Tuohys loss may not be felt as badly against Waterford but don't forgot galway have frozen a few times against Waterford in the last 10 Years or so far from a forgone conclusion which galway are well aware of tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/08/2017 20:45:28 2030596 Link 0 |
I hope the Deise win it, if not Galway, Cork are the bronze option not out of any disrespect to the Rebels or Tribesmen but I'd love a side to win it who hasn't since the 50s MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 07/08/2017 20:52:26 2030600 Link 0 |
There's another thread on the Tuohy incident but I can't agree with you that a suspension is almost certain and that you can be so sure there was intent considering he was facing the opposite direction. A suspension in the circumstances would be more than harsh -- in my opinion, of itself it doesn't warrant one but of course the powers that be could go down that route simply to legitimise the TDB suspension. Personally I think the deBurca one is harsh as well but the difference is that one was dealt with on the field of play and a red card issued for it, it was in the refs report and therefore the sanction was/is unavoidable for that reason. In Touhy's case no action was taken on the field and I would be fairly sure Kelly will not be mentioning it in his report as he's not the kind of man to be swayed by media reactions. It would be going down a very murky route indeed if video evidence was used to convict a player in the absence of it being mentioned in the refs report. Btw it would be the height of madness for any player to deliberately interfere with a helmet in front of TV cameras given the severe punishment for doing so, so if intent is the criteria under the microscope I would argue that the DeBurca suspension should be rescinded too. Don't know where you were seeing the high tackle by Canning...unless you mean the yellow card incident which was dealt with by the referee as he saw fit, I can only presume you mean the shoulder to shoulder charge on Breen (?) which was fair and most certainly wasn't high and I think was more accurately executed that Bonnar Maher's tackle on Canning in last year's game. I will concede we got 2 or 3 soft frees that I was not expecting us to get so if you want to feel sour about anything, you could have reason there. But by the same token we felt hard done by in a couple of decisions by the same ref in the corresponding game 12 months ago so there's an element of swings and roundabouts about it overall PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 07/08/2017 22:29:10 2030666 Link 0 |
Just watched the first half again and there was nothing in cannings tackle. I thought it was A Hurley to the face or neck area. From the highlights on the Sunday game I think tuohys was certainly deliberate. Anyone who has played hurling knows its not natural to grab at a helmet and he made a few grabs at it. Impossible for Kelly to see it tho and it'll be harsh but justified under current rules. Few other decisions could've went our way but Kelly didn't cost us the game. We have been poor all year and despite a huge up in intensity we were quite poor yesterday also. Don't fault the players in any way. It's not easy to put back to back. Disappointed with some jibes fromgalway people about the one in a row specialists. Galway have only won 20% of the finals they're in so I'd expect some more humility from that minority' of supporters. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/08/2017 23:33:34 2030706 Link 0 |
Its hard to win back to back even in football. Look at the Dubs they won 2011 AI Final and lost semi by a point a year later. They went onto win the AI again in 2013 but lost the AI Semi in 2014. Now they have won 2 in a row and going for 3 and could win 5 in a row!! Galway have been there or thereabouts since 2015 and consistently putting it up to Tipp & Kilkenny and this year they just peaked. There's minority in every county even with our own supporters I'm sure Kilkenny lads have heard some guff from our crew over the years!! I believe there is still another 2 all Ireland's in this Tipp team I dont expect any retirements this year unless Gleeson calls it a day but Darragh Mooney should have learned this year and he got game time under his belt so I wouldnt worry in that aspect. One thing that did irk me on Sunday was that Tipp only made 2 changes and we didnt replace the players who were not in the game. Sean Curran had a little cameo as a blood sub and did ok and when we were not winning ball Steven O'Brien should have been bought on.Big lad can win ball in the air no bother. How his still not starting is a mystery. There's a good panel there and with a few minors awaiting to step up we'll be competitive for a few years. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 08/08/2017 11:25:43 2030877 Link 0 |
The thing is, if it was deliberate it would NOT be harsh. I just don't accept though that it was deliberate. If I did, I would have to question Tuohy's intelligence. You would need to be the most brainless hurler ever to interfere deliberately with an opponent's helmet these days. To get yourself a certain ban and for what immediate benefit? If a player wants to engage in dirty tricks there are far more subtle and more effective ways of doing so that will not get you a ban. The SG trio said it was not black and white. They are correct. It would need to be black and white before a ban could be justifiably enforced. The one in a row jibers must be part of the juvenile set (even if some of them are supposed to be adults!) Presumably most of them reside along the Tipp border. Isn't there supposed to be a thread on PV about all the world events that have happened since Galway last won the All Ireland? I would suggest that it is more than likely in response to that. On the whole it is probably meant in the spirit of banter but I can well understand how it can rankle. Believe me, I've been on the receiving end of Tipp jibes in the past too! I remember particularly in 2010 when over in a quiet corner after the match and wanting time and space to lick our very raw wounds, the group I was with was sought out by a horde of Tipp youngsters who were very keen to rub salt into those wounds. Every county has a percentage of those kind of fans....I suppose it is something that goes hand in hand with an intense rivalry. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 08/08/2017 11:30:57 2030883 Link 1 |
I'd fully agree on O'Brien. Bonner had to be replaced. Two other positional decisions probably cost us the game. The first was moving Noel from centre forward where he had Mcinerney in serious bother. The most baffling of all was putting Maher back on Glynn. Galway were clever then and moved Glynn into the corner which took Maher out of the game. I would've let Glynn win as much ball as he liked as he hasn't natural scoring ability unlike Canning.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 08/08/2017 11:52:18 2030902 Link 0 |
Galway have never 'frozen' v Waterford imo, in the 3 occasions I've seen that championship matchup. We were too green '98, too 'rode' in '09, and way too soft/unfit/poor in '11. In actual fact, when McIntyre left after 3 yrs in charge in '11, his hilarious going away speech included the line that 'Galway were farther than ever away' from winning an all-ireland. Yet AC had us 'at the races' a mere 12 months later, and had a fine tenure imo, despite clearly alienating the players by the end of it!
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3419 - 08/08/2017 11:59:13 2030911 Link 1 |