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Well done Tyrone on destroying us on all fronts today . TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 18/06/2017 18:16:49 2001257 Link 0 |
I am reading most of you're posts with bemusement here. The one about Tyrone been written off? Like who was writing them off? In all of the prematch previews I have read or listened to opinion was generally split as to who would win. I heard or read nobody writing off Tyrone but what some pundits were pointing out was that their transition period was over and now was the time to kick on and really challenge outside of Ulster.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2781 - 18/06/2017 18:30:47 2001272 Link 0 |
Is it red then. I understood it was part of the reason why the black card was brought in.
border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 18/06/2017 18:40:25 2001276 Link 0 |
All the sports analysts here in Ireland. Read the sports pages in all the Irish newspapers from last week and from today. Then come back and name those who gave Tyrone any hope of winning today?? Peter Canavan gave them the nod to win as did Colm Parkinson and Stevie Mc Donnell. All else wrote them off.
border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 18/06/2017 18:45:30 2001280 Link 0 |
I was at this game as a neutral. gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 18/06/2017 18:48:04 2001283 Link 0 |
High tackles are black cards if the intention is to deliberately drag someone to the ground as they were today, meant nothing at that stage , not up to the ref to decide not to enforce the rules just because of the scoreboard
benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 18/06/2017 18:53:02 2001286 Link 0 |
Congratulations to Tyrone today on an excellent performance and dishing out what was an emphatic drubbing. If someone had suggested this outcome to me 20 mins into the match I would have been a bit worried about their mental state. This was a real statement of intent from Tyrone today and I think the rest of the country will really have taken note. It reminded me of Donegal in 2012 where they got their provincial title the previous year and then evolved their game to another level. I thought Tyrone would win by the odd point or 2 but I did not ever foresee such a battering. Tactically they were on a different dimension to Donegal and even though both got bodies back it was like chalk and cheese in terms of defending and intensity. Tyrone mixed up their play really well not just depending on hand passing. Their kickouts were excellent and the fulcrum from which alot of attacks were built. The runners in support and point taking was exceptional. While I think Monaghan will provide much sterner opposition than Donegal did today I fully expect Tyrone to enter the AI series as Ulster champions and now must be considered very serious contenders to lift Sam this year. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2781 - 18/06/2017 19:00:23 2001293 Link 0 |
Congrats to Tyrone, they were brilliant today and the scoreline didn't flatter them at all, they probably could have won by far more if they hadn't taken their foot off the pedal in the second half. Great performances from Colm Cavanagh and Mattie Donnelly. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 18/06/2017 19:34:10 2001321 Link 1 |
Until the rules change expect only a yellow for a high tackle. Same with a knee in the back, ie the kildare player on the meath player yesterday in the 2nd half. The ref can only enforce according to the rulebook, not bring his own version on the day of a game.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 18/06/2017 19:34:19 2001322 Link 2 |
Include Dara OCinnidhe for tipping Tyrone, I read his article pre match. In fairness, before this game, anyone who was tipping either team was reluctant to call it definitively one way or the other. I would guess that Tyrone will go in as red hot favorites for the Ulster final on the back of todays performance. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 18/06/2017 19:51:44 2001333 Link 0 |
Absolute nonsense. I listened to all the same podcasts and it was absolutely split in opinion. I don't read the press so much because of some of the blatant bias and anti Ulster undercurrents.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2781 - 18/06/2017 19:55:35 2001340 Link 0 |
Will he though? He got a 3 year contract which in truth was unwarranted. He obviously talks a good game and has big influence with the board. What is most worrying is how his ego is now effecting the underage set ups. This year we had the scandalous situation where U-21 players were still been asked to play in league games after survival was guaranteed even though it was to the detriment of their own championship restricting their recovery time. Even Cavan who Donegal beat in the Ulster semi final allowed their U-21 players concentrate on that championship which was the same with the other main players like Tyrone, Dublin, Kerry and Galway. I am seriously worried about Donegal's prospects in next years inaugural U-20 championship if Gallagher involves most of the best players in his squad even though they will most likely not be involved yet still rule them out of playing for the U-20 team. One big lesson today was that our young players are miles off in terms of conditioning and physical strength when it comes to the upper echelons of senior championship football.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2781 - 18/06/2017 20:09:48 2001349 Link 1 |
Exactly. Anything I listened to or odd bit of press I read had the same sentiments. If they went for one or the other it was still not with absolute conviction. I thought Tyrone would win today by the odd score but was far from convinced in my opinion. Maybe some elements of the media were writing off in terms of the AI but definitely not for the game today or winning an Ulster title.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2781 - 18/06/2017 20:26:51 2001360 Link 0 |
Wrong. They were not black cards. Holding someone back is not a black card whether high or low. Stupid but that is the rules. For the one at the end over at the Gerry Arthur it looked like the Tyrone player grabbed the arm and went to ground.
benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 18/06/2017 20:46:27 2001371 Link 0 |
Benny catch a grip lad. Gough was very fair today, every Donegal person I talked to had no complaints but you clearly do. You have Tyrone blood in you. You know the better team won. Donegal will be a fine team in years to come and I feel they could make a good run in the qualifiers. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 18/06/2017 20:58:13 2001382 Link 0 |
Just in the door and all I have to say is it was Men against boys today on the pitch and also on the sidelines. InishowenMan (Donegal) - Posts: 216 - 18/06/2017 21:03:33 2001389 Link 0 |
If tackles round the neck bringing players down are not black cards (at least) why did Gough give Sean Cavanaqgh a black card against Mayo last year? cjx (Tyrone) - Posts: 270 - 18/06/2017 21:25:49 2001405 Link 0 |
Wrong you, deliberately drag someone to the ground black card, should it be by neck, arm, foot, leg or any other part of the body you want, simple as that. I'll leave it there, not going to get dragged into an argument over black card decisions tonight
benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 18/06/2017 21:28:22 2001407 Link 0 |
These things are not mutually exclusive.Tyrone were really better in every aspect and in some aspects by a long, long way. That doesn't mean the ref had a great game. In saying that I've seen a lot worse. Listen its bitterly disappointing but no denying the better team by a mile won today.
benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 18/06/2017 21:38:21 2001417 Link 0 |
Congrats Tyrone on a very good performance today. In reality we were never in it. From back to front you look a very organised and calm team. Each player know their roles and the use of the long and short game was in stark contrast to our one dimensional running game. We continued to run the ball out of defence as Tyrone retreated in front of the ball. Our young lads don't have the strength to break the tackle yet we had no tactic to avoid it. Rory Gallagher was made look very amateur on the tactics side today. Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 18/06/2017 21:39:09 2001418 Link 1 |