National - Does GAA get fair coverage compared to soccer and rugby

Replying To keeper7:  "Alano, are you full-time at this or is it just for the summer?"
who knows

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1767 - 07/07/2016 20:02:43   1878126

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Replying To janesboro:  "alano ---- .there is a huge difference between being on tg4 and rte and you know it..

i dont see any issue with tg4 showing games rugby or gaa - they do a fine job irrespective of whether you totally understand the commentary or not you can easily figure out whats goin on - i dont have shred of welsh but watched all of wales games on s4c and could still make out whats going on - ---- anyway is it part of the gaa remit to promote irish language"
there is a big difference nonetheless between viewership, advertising, analysis, presentation..tg4 do a fine job but its not the same

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1767 - 07/07/2016 20:34:55   1878144

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The lead story on Q102 News this morning involved an Irish soccer fan jailed in Paris for assault. Apparently the original story broke 6 days ago some two weeks after the assault actually happened. Somehow I must have missed it. But so too must RTE because I haven't heard or seen one single reference to it on RTE News on TV, radio or online. I'm not suggesting for one second that RTE ignored the story but I'd appreciate someone pointing out where and when they covered what is surely a very important Euro 2016 story. However if they didn't cover it the question has to be asked why? The story is covered on lots of other media outlets such as the Independent group, the Irish Times, Joe.ie etc. etc. Hoping someone will set me right.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 07/07/2016 21:05:03   1878162

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Why are you asking us?

jimski (Kildare) - Posts:284 - 07/07/2016 21:22:18   1878168

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Replying To mediaman:  "The lead story on Q102 News this morning involved an Irish soccer fan jailed in Paris for assault. Apparently the original story broke 6 days ago some two weeks after the assault actually happened. Somehow I must have missed it. But so too must RTE because I haven't heard or seen one single reference to it on RTE News on TV, radio or online. I'm not suggesting for one second that RTE ignored the story but I'd appreciate someone pointing out where and when they covered what is surely a very important Euro 2016 story. However if they didn't cover it the question has to be asked why? The story is covered on lots of other media outlets such as the Independent group, the Irish Times, Joe.ie etc. etc. Hoping someone will set me right."
story fairly done the rounds in fairness

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1767 - 07/07/2016 21:47:47   1878183

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Just looking at the RTE coverage last night of the Euros for a bit. The show starts an hour before kickoff & goes on for a half hour (approx.) after. This is then directly followed by an hour long highlights programme of the game they just showed live. Is that not a bit crazy?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:3381 - 08/07/2016 13:50:07   1878481

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RTE 6.01 News and Sport. The programme that keeps on giving. Yesterday Monday, in its now regular look back at the weekend's hurling and football 6.01 Sport decided to ignore the 3 most heart-warming stories of the previous 48 hours. Longford's huge victory over Monaghan. Wexford's first defeat of Cork for 60 years and Clare's terrific win over Laois. Instead they sent a reporter and a film crew out to report on the 2 least entertaining games of the weekend. Galway/Roscommon and Tipp/Waterford. An unremittingly negative report followed (the Monday moan might be a good way to describe it).

Contrast this to their report on the Euro 2016 Final on the same programme. An extremely positive report showed the Portugese team homecoming even showing celebrations in East Timor. What they neglected to mention was the trouble that broke out near the Fan Zone in Central Paris when police fired tear gas at fans who then set vehicles alight.

The difference of approach is startling. They Ignore the positives in hurling and football while highlighting the negatives. However their soccer coverage was the exact opposite highlighting the positives and ignoring the negatives.

That's RTE's 6.01 News and Sport for you.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 12/07/2016 20:23:54   1882095

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Replying To mediaman:  "RTE 6.01 News and Sport. The programme that keeps on giving. Yesterday Monday, in its now regular look back at the weekend's hurling and football 6.01 Sport decided to ignore the 3 most heart-warming stories of the previous 48 hours. Longford's huge victory over Monaghan. Wexford's first defeat of Cork for 60 years and Clare's terrific win over Laois. Instead they sent a reporter and a film crew out to report on the 2 least entertaining games of the weekend. Galway/Roscommon and Tipp/Waterford. An unremittingly negative report followed (the Monday moan might be a good way to describe it).

Contrast this to their report on the Euro 2016 Final on the same programme. An extremely positive report showed the Portugese team homecoming even showing celebrations in East Timor. What they neglected to mention was the trouble that broke out near the Fan Zone in Central Paris when police fired tear gas at fans who then set vehicles alight.

The difference of approach is startling. They Ignore the positives in hurling and football while highlighting the negatives. However their soccer coverage was the exact opposite highlighting the positives and ignoring the negatives.

That's RTE's 6.01 News and Sport for you."
A bunch of hooligans causing trouble in Paris has nothing to do with any sport.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3404 - 12/07/2016 21:03:51   1882122

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Ah sure Mediaman, they're only doing it to annoy you!

jimski (Kildare) - Posts:284 - 12/07/2016 21:20:47   1882131

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "A bunch of hooligans causing trouble in Paris has nothing to do with any sport."
you are correct but its a fair point in that the tone of the coverage is very negatively focused in relation to gaa...you would swear nobody dived to win a free/penalty in gaa history

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1767 - 12/07/2016 21:34:33   1882150

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Replying To jimski:  "Ah sure Mediaman, they're only doing it to annoy you!"
Mediamoan !

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3404 - 12/07/2016 21:39:53   1882155

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Replying To mediaman:  "RTE 6.01 News and Sport. The programme that keeps on giving. Yesterday Monday, in its now regular look back at the weekend's hurling and football 6.01 Sport decided to ignore the 3 most heart-warming stories of the previous 48 hours. Longford's huge victory over Monaghan. Wexford's first defeat of Cork for 60 years and Clare's terrific win over Laois. Instead they sent a reporter and a film crew out to report on the 2 least entertaining games of the weekend. Galway/Roscommon and Tipp/Waterford. An unremittingly negative report followed (the Monday moan might be a good way to describe it).

Contrast this to their report on the Euro 2016 Final on the same programme. An extremely positive report showed the Portugese team homecoming even showing celebrations in East Timor. What they neglected to mention was the trouble that broke out near the Fan Zone in Central Paris when police fired tear gas at fans who then set vehicles alight.

The difference of approach is startling. They Ignore the positives in hurling and football while highlighting the negatives. However their soccer coverage was the exact opposite highlighting the positives and ignoring the negatives.

That's RTE's 6.01 News and Sport for you."
There's no cure for you I'm afraid, media man.

The Munster hurling final and the Connacht football final were the big GAA games of the weekend so were certain to get the greatest attention of the media. Its unfortunate that both games were utterly forgettable but as they say, them's the breaks.Since they were 2 bad matches any focus on them at all couldn't but highlight what you describe as the negative.

If RTE was exclusively The GAA Channel of course there would be a focus on the good news GAA stories that happened away from the main stage ie Longford and Clare footballers and Wexford hurlers heartwarming wins. But RTE is not exclusively about the GAA and hence such good stories, since they were away from the main stage, could not be expected to get the kind of coverage that in a perfect world they certainly deserved. I don't know what the combined attendances were at those 3 games -- I think there was only a few hundred at the Clare footballers game -- but I am certain the combined total didn't come anywhere near the 29k or so that attended the Munster final or the crowd that attended the Connacht final -- another reason why these 2 games would receive the greatest post-match coverage.

Regarding the trouble in the vicinity of the Paris fanzine (it occurred outside the fanzine BTW and was caused by fans trying to force their way into it), apparently approx 100,000 well behaved fans had congregated within the fanzine. I don't know how many troublemakers there were but there were around 40 arrests. I expect the number of rioters was in the low hundreds but let's be generous on it and say there was a thousand rioters. That would mean about 1% of the crowd rioted. Would it not be terribly biased if the media highlighted the 1% that were involved in rioting and ignored the good news (or rather the no news) of the 99% that were well behaved and there to enjoy the spectacle?

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts:581 - 12/07/2016 22:24:01   1882204

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "There's no cure for you I'm afraid, media man.

The Munster hurling final and the Connacht football final were the big GAA games of the weekend so were certain to get the greatest attention of the media. Its unfortunate that both games were utterly forgettable but as they say, them's the breaks.Since they were 2 bad matches any focus on them at all couldn't but highlight what you describe as the negative.

If RTE was exclusively The GAA Channel of course there would be a focus on the good news GAA stories that happened away from the main stage ie Longford and Clare footballers and Wexford hurlers heartwarming wins. But RTE is not exclusively about the GAA and hence such good stories, since they were away from the main stage, could not be expected to get the kind of coverage that in a perfect world they certainly deserved. I don't know what the combined attendances were at those 3 games -- I think there was only a few hundred at the Clare footballers game -- but I am certain the combined total didn't come anywhere near the 29k or so that attended the Munster final or the crowd that attended the Connacht final -- another reason why these 2 games would receive the greatest post-match coverage.

Regarding the trouble in the vicinity of the Paris fanzine (it occurred outside the fanzine BTW and was caused by fans trying to force their way into it), apparently approx 100,000 well behaved fans had congregated within the fanzine. I don't know how many troublemakers there were but there were around 40 arrests. I expect the number of rioters was in the low hundreds but let's be generous on it and say there was a thousand rioters. That would mean about 1% of the crowd rioted. Would it not be terribly biased if the media highlighted the 1% that were involved in rioting and ignored the good news (or rather the no news) of the 99% that were well behaved and there to enjoy the spectacle?"
You can't be posting logical stuff on here !

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3404 - 12/07/2016 23:19:03   1882252

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"Regarding the trouble in the vicinity of the Paris fanzine (it occurred outside the fanzine BTW and was caused by fans trying to force their way into it), apparently approx 100,000 well behaved fans had congregated within the fanzine. I don't know how many troublemakers there were but there were around 40 arrests. I expect the number of rioters was in the low hundreds but let's be generous on it and say there was a thousand rioters. That would mean about 1% of the crowd rioted. Would it not be terribly biased if the media highlighted the 1% that were involved in rioting and ignored the good news (or rather the no news) of the 99% that were well behaved and there to enjoy the spectacle?"

So why report it all? Is that what your saying? Lest we offend the majority!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:3381 - 13/07/2016 12:53:21   1882467

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Another example of RTE 6.01's pursuit of negative football/hurling stories. In the weeks leading up to the LSFC a reporter/camera crew was dispatched to Longford to report on disquiet among the team management about club fixtures impeding preparations for the championship. Plenty of resources available then to bring this clearly negative but 'important' story to the attention of the entire nation.

Fast forward to last Saturday then when the wheel came full circle. Longford pulled off an amazing victory over hot favourites Monaghan. Considering the earlier story on the 6.01 News and Sport this result simply cried out for a follow up story along the lines of how things have changed so dramatically for Longford in the space of a few weeks. The people of Longford are quite rightly on a high at the moment but sadly RTE didn't think the upside of Longford's year was worth a single reference never mind a reporter/camera crew being sent to the county.

They rush down to Longford to highlight the negative but ignore them when the going gets good. We and the people of Longford in particular deserve better for our/their money.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:355 - 13/07/2016 22:05:14   1882819

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Replying To mediaman:  "Another example of RTE 6.01's pursuit of negative football/hurling stories. In the weeks leading up to the LSFC a reporter/camera crew was dispatched to Longford to report on disquiet among the team management about club fixtures impeding preparations for the championship. Plenty of resources available then to bring this clearly negative but 'important' story to the attention of the entire nation.

Fast forward to last Saturday then when the wheel came full circle. Longford pulled off an amazing victory over hot favourites Monaghan. Considering the earlier story on the 6.01 News and Sport this result simply cried out for a follow up story along the lines of how things have changed so dramatically for Longford in the space of a few weeks. The people of Longford are quite rightly on a high at the moment but sadly RTE didn't think the upside of Longford's year was worth a single reference never mind a reporter/camera crew being sent to the county.

They rush down to Longford to highlight the negative but ignore them when the going gets good. We and the people of Longford in particular deserve better for our/their money."
Who exactly are 'we' ?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3404 - 13/07/2016 22:23:29   1882832

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Its called negativity bias. Its why most of the news every night on every station around the world is bad news. Nothing to do with an RTE bias. In fact didnt RTE announce today that they would be showing the Connacht final live online, surprised you missed that ;)

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts:4330 - 13/07/2016 22:42:49   1882837

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The people in Longford haven't been able to sleep all week thinking about the injustice of it all.

jimski (Kildare) - Posts:284 - 13/07/2016 22:56:14   1882842

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Its called negativity bias. Its why most of the news every night on every station around the world is bad news. Nothing to do with an RTE bias. In fact didnt RTE announce today that they would be showing the Connacht final live online, surprised you missed that ;)"
Sure Sky News would collapse without bad news stories. It's a sad sign of the times. So-called newspapers like The Sun, The Star, The Daily Mail, The Evening Herald and The Sunday World with sensationalist front page bad news stories because bad news stories sell papers.In an ever-shrinking newspaper market because of internet competition.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3404 - 13/07/2016 23:27:31   1882848

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bad.monkey,

"Its called negativity bias. Its why most of the news every night on every station around the world is bad news. Nothing to do with an RTE bias."

That's true with the news but sports news doesn't usually suffer the same fate in terms of negativity.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:3381 - 14/07/2016 00:03:26   1882856

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