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Tyrone for Sam 2017

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Replying To waynoI:  "Last night showed why Tyrone WONT win the all Ireland this year.

6 points up against a team who are only off their team holiers in Jamaica and you don't see it out.

Poor wides, very poor wides.

They where the better team no doubt and probably deserved to win but somehow managed to throw it away. Sums it up"
yea im sure Dublin were on a club 18 -30s holiday over in Jamaica and the hangovers were just to strong to cope even in a ground they know with a blindfold on!

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 12/02/2017 11:35:49    1955064

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Replying To Wally:  "Would 10points win you much??"
Wins us a lot more than it loses us chief!!

Dublins results since Jim Gavin took over where we scored 10 points or less in a game

2014 - Dublin 2-8 v 1-10 Kerry
2014 - Tyrone 1-15 v 3-10 Dublin
2015 - Dublin 2-10 v 0-11 Donegal
2015 - Dublin 1-09 v 0-12 Tyrone
2015 - Dublin 0-08 v 0-04 Derry
2016 - Mayo 0-07 v 0-09 Dublin
2016 - Dublin 1-10 v 0-07 Donegal
2016 - Mayo 0-15 v 2-09 Dublin
2017 - Dublin 0-10 v 1-07 Tyrone

Unbeaten in 8 games against some brilliant opposition there while scoring 10 points or less in those games...

Now yea, If you want to pedantic you can say we scored goals in a lot of those games... So, Take out the games where we scored goals and we won 2 of the 3, only blemish is last nights result where we missed a penalty.

Worth noting by the way that Tyrone in our last 3 league meetings have kept us to 10 points or less, winning a grand total of none of those games.

Also worth noting that in those years (13, 14, 15, 16) we scored lowly in certain games and still went on to lift the national league

In one (Mayo 2016) we even managed to score less than 10 points against Mayo in an all Ireland semi final, not score the two goals ourselves, and still go on to win the all Ireland.

So, a long winded answer to your very simple question, 10 points has proven to win this side a lot of games and titles.

Get back in your box!!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 12/02/2017 11:47:58    1955071

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Replying To waynoI:  "Wins us a lot more than it loses us chief!!

Dublins results since Jim Gavin took over where we scored 10 points or less in a game

2014 - Dublin 2-8 v 1-10 Kerry
2014 - Tyrone 1-15 v 3-10 Dublin
2015 - Dublin 2-10 v 0-11 Donegal
2015 - Dublin 1-09 v 0-12 Tyrone
2015 - Dublin 0-08 v 0-04 Derry
2016 - Mayo 0-07 v 0-09 Dublin
2016 - Dublin 1-10 v 0-07 Donegal
2016 - Mayo 0-15 v 2-09 Dublin
2017 - Dublin 0-10 v 1-07 Tyrone

Unbeaten in 8 games against some brilliant opposition there while scoring 10 points or less in those games...

Now yea, If you want to pedantic you can say we scored goals in a lot of those games... So, Take out the games where we scored goals and we won 2 of the 3, only blemish is last nights result where we missed a penalty.

Worth noting by the way that Tyrone in our last 3 league meetings have kept us to 10 points or less, winning a grand total of none of those games.

Also worth noting that in those years (13, 14, 15, 16) we scored lowly in certain games and still went on to lift the national league

In one (Mayo 2016) we even managed to score less than 10 points against Mayo in an all Ireland semi final, not score the two goals ourselves, and still go on to win the all Ireland.

So, a long winded answer to your very simple question, 10 points has proven to win this side a lot of games and titles.

Get back in your box!!"
"Get back in your box"
Sums up the arrogance of some of the Dublin supporters nowadays. You may hope that type of attitude doesn't creep back in among the players again a la Pillars days

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 12/02/2017 12:09:26    1955082

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Replying To benched:  ""Get back in your box"
Sums up the arrogance of some of the Dublin supporters nowadays. You may hope that type of attitude doesn't creep back in among the players again a la Pillars days"
Clearly no sense of humour. Tongue in cheek!!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 12/02/2017 12:23:04    1955088

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Meaningless league game. Poor conditions, players from both sides missing, Ty players sent off; nearly 7 mins added time; Tyrone were lucky yesterday with McQuillan who as usual always gives the nod to Tyrone where he can, I've heard he referees the Tyrone A v B games also

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 12/02/2017 13:27:06    1955130

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missed the game myself but saw it on tv, tyrone do bother us more than most and seem to match up quite well at times but great to get the draw for us considering the position we were in...very impressed with sludden

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 12/02/2017 13:38:37    1955137

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Thought you looked a really competitive outfit last night lads and it was a great challenge, forget about refs, philosophy etc, i think you are shoulder to shoulder with the four best counties in the country and will challenge this year.

It will be a good team that will beat yee, we might see yee again in April for the final via taking a few pucks out of Kerry and Mayo! Best of luck witht the rest of the campaign.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/02/2017 13:43:45    1955142

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on a side note what exactly happened with bradley as the tv camera moved off the incident while cooper had him on the ground and didnt show what happened after?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 12/02/2017 13:49:27    1955147

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Thought you looked a really competitive outfit last night lads and it was a great challenge, forget about refs, philosophy etc, i think you are shoulder to shoulder with the four best counties in the country and will challenge this year.

It will be a good team that will beat yee, we might see yee again in April for the final via taking a few pucks out of Kerry and Mayo! Best of luck witht the rest of the campaign."
Great post. Hope it's a Dublin vs Tyrone final. Would be great to get back down and have another crack.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/02/2017 13:57:21    1955156

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Great post. Hope it's a Dublin vs Tyrone final. Would be great to get back down and have another crack."
Is it a great post because it praises Tyrone or is there something I'm missing?

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 12/02/2017 14:15:26    1955173

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Replying To greatpoint:  "Is it a great post because it praises Tyrone or is there something I'm missing?"
haha ... If that Tyrone poster saw the brilliant post TheUsername posted on the D1 thread he'd probably need a new pair of jocks.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 12/02/2017 14:31:05    1955188

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Replying To greatpoint:  "Is it a great post because it praises Tyrone or is there something I'm missing?"
No I agree with the point about the ref etc, people having a fit about the ref. He was inconsistent for both teams.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/02/2017 14:48:37    1955206

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Replying To waynoI:  "haha ... If that Tyrone poster saw the brilliant post TheUsername posted on the D1 thread he'd probably need a new pair of jocks."
Lol. You let the side down Username.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/02/2017 14:49:10    1955208

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Replying To alano12:  "on a side note what exactly happened with bradley as the tv camera moved off the incident while cooper had him on the ground and didnt show what happened after?"
Cooper was pushing wee Bradley about, shoving, handbags stuff but managed to get a rise out of him which was probably the plan. Wee Bradley lost his cool and clearly struck cooper in the jaw. Cooper's reaction was unreal, cried and cried and cried to the lines man. He'll have a sore jaw this morning though given to him by the smallest man in county football

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 12/02/2017 15:48:23    1955247

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Replying To cacsmckilly:  "Cooper was pushing wee Bradley about, shoving, handbags stuff but managed to get a rise out of him which was probably the plan. Wee Bradley lost his cool and clearly struck cooper in the jaw. Cooper's reaction was unreal, cried and cried and cried to the lines man. He'll have a sore jaw this morning though given to him by the smallest man in county football"
ah he gets involved in that at times alright even when were hammering some team...tyrone just needed to keep their composure last night

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 12/02/2017 15:52:09    1955250

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Replying To alano12:  "ah he gets involved in that at times alright even when were hammering some team...tyrone just needed to keep their composure last night"
here fair play to cooper, he was just getting into bradleys face,

Bradley needs to have more discipline and not strike out, he'll learn, just a cub

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 12/02/2017 15:56:48    1955258

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Back to basics
Tyrone lost their chance in first 15 minutes
4 bad wides set the pattern and sent Tyrone back into their safe defensive shell far too deep.
A 5 points to 1 lead for Tyrone after less than 15min would have emboldened them and left Dublin back on their heels
Great Defense hard fast running counts little when you take the heart out of a team with easy misses
No Sam for Tyrone til that cured!

cjx (Tyrone) - Posts: 270 - 12/02/2017 16:36:31    1955307

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Replying To cacsmckilly:  "here fair play to cooper, he was just getting into bradleys face,

Bradley needs to have more discipline and not strike out, he'll learn, just a cub"
true..cooper is great at it

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 12/02/2017 16:41:00    1955312

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Looking back on the scores It should have been Tyrone 0-7 Dublin 0-2 after 15 minutes on chances available with reasonable accuracy The issue for Tyrone is well illustrated by Tyrone's long period with no scores after the 12th minute

cjx (Tyrone) - Posts: 270 - 12/02/2017 17:27:19    1955377

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Tyrone are masters at disrupting the flow of other sides and I don't think I have seen a team unsettle this Dublin side as much as them, maybe apart from Mayo. However Tyrone don't have the attacking resources of Dublin, Mayo and Kerry and that will continue to hinder them. If this Tyrone team had a Canavan or O'Neill they would the real deal. They are very skillful, fast and mobile but in the final 3rd they are not good enough. So that's me just stating the obvious then.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 12/02/2017 19:51:27    1955539

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