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Dr Crokes vs S'neil

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Uh oh...

The green thumb bandits are out in force

Thehermit will have 1000+ likes before the night is out"
Says the hero that's probably putting those stupid thumb downs to any Kerry post.

What's wrong Jim are you really actually jealous and craving the approval of strangers???

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 17/03/2017 21:52:39    1968011

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Says the hero that's probably putting those stupid thumb downs to any Kerry post.

What's wrong Jim are you really actually jealous and craving the approval of strangers???"
Yeah that's it......

Pfffffhh

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 17/03/2017 21:58:53    1968014

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Says the hero that's probably putting that tumb down witb"
I'm glad to you said "probably"

Because you'd be wrong.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 17/03/2017 22:02:04    1968015

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Replying To Dessie_Cross:  "I'd more muscles at 14 than some of those Slaughtneil featherweights.
Cross would have easily crushed Crokes."
Obviously your muscles developed faster than your brain !

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 17/03/2017 22:03:08    1968016

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Awful match to watch - total borefest- S'neil midfielder who got sent off lost his team that match - he was actually a decent player. Crokes well versed in the dark arts.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 17/03/2017 22:14:42    1968018

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I'm glad to you said "probably"

Because you'd be wrong."
Here I gave you a thumbs up there, you seem to crave them.

Enjoy Tralee tomorrow, the bullring is a great walk up to Austin Stacks

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 17/03/2017 22:27:12    1968020

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Replying To KYTotalFootball:  "I was at the game and had a Birds Eye view so I know what I am talking about, maybe if Donegal had pushed up they might have had more than 1 last ditch effort to draw the game. We kept our 6 defenders in place that day , that isn't playing a sweeper

Last year they had a 2 man advantage vs Dublin yet they allowed Kilkenny own the ball for an age and their fans had the gall to boo him!"
I was also at the match, Donnchadh Walsh spent the whole game sitting beside Fitzgearld in the half back line in fact in the Monday papers Colm Keys noted the next day "he spread himself thin and was ready to foul when needed", even when Declan O Sullivan came on he also played as an extra defender. But for a lovely score from Paul Murphy in the second half, Kerry were robotic and boring and Jack O Connor commented after the match that he would never have got away with playing football like that. Kerry were so negative they played your best forward that year James O Donnoghue in a deep role. I Imagine Jim Mc Guinness most have nighmares about picking young O Connor over McBrearty that afternoon.

EDH (Galway) - Posts: 367 - 17/03/2017 22:55:32    1968022

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Cynical cynical football wins out again in croker but then we are used to that ... how could Deegan watch systematic fouling non stop for 60 minutes and do so little.... and as for the bore fest of the last 5 mins in particular jees these so called Kerry purists must be running for cover.. I feel gutted for slaughtneil

AnBuachaillGlas (Fermanagh) - Posts: 287 - 17/03/2017 23:04:25    1968024

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Here I gave you a thumbs up there, you seem to crave them.

Enjoy Tralee tomorrow, the bullring is a great walk up to Austin Stacks"
Dr. Crokes got a very very soft free that eventually led to their goal...sending off was costly then just before half time..I remember an All Ireland a few years ago too when Kilkenny beat TIpp, Tipp were leading by 5 points and a ball looked to be out over the sidline, Tipp stopped to protest momentarily Kilkenny kept going and went up the field and got a a goal that changed the whole game...I dont know..big teams always seem to get these breaks in tight games....

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 17/03/2017 23:32:34    1968031

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "Awful match to watch - total borefest- S'neil midfielder who got sent off lost his team that match - he was actually a decent player. Crokes well versed in the dark arts."
Yeah I agree.
S'neil would have been All Ireland Champions if they had 15 v 15 in that 2nd half.
Left it behind them me thinks....

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3729 - 17/03/2017 23:38:26    1968034

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Jesus what a sad end to a St Patricks Day reading some of the crap posted in the five pages here. A few facts as I saw them from someone who would of liked Slaughtneil to win but backed Crokes minus the handicap (lost that bet so no team done me any favours
Sending off totally changed the game but no excuse for such indiscipline.
Most dangerous tackle of the evening was that on Patsy Bradley, lucky to escape with a yellow
Crokes clearly were not going to let McKeague rule the game like he did against Vincents, to target him for attention is exactly what you would expect any team to do but for the ref to turn a blind eye to the persistent fouling against him is inexcusable
Disappointed with Slaughtneil a club / team who have won great admiration for their spirit / achievements over the last couple of years meekly played out the last five minutes, allowing Crokes to play keep ball in the middle of the field, similar to Tyrone Mayo this year only worse as Tyrone only needed to engineer one point scoring chance (which they did but couldn't take).
While its nice to see Cooper win an AI club medal I'd actually be happier for some of his less decorated colleagues who for some this might be the one and only AI they ever win.
As for whoever said Slaughneil wouldn't trust their full back line Rodgers was outstanding again and McEldowney is the type of whole hearted cornerback any club manager would love to have

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 18/03/2017 01:18:48    1968047

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Replying To EDH:  "I was also at the match, Donnchadh Walsh spent the whole game sitting beside Fitzgearld in the half back line in fact in the Monday papers Colm Keys noted the next day "he spread himself thin and was ready to foul when needed", even when Declan O Sullivan came on he also played as an extra defender. But for a lovely score from Paul Murphy in the second half, Kerry were robotic and boring and Jack O Connor commented after the match that he would never have got away with playing football like that. Kerry were so negative they played your best forward that year James O Donnoghue in a deep role. I Imagine Jim Mc Guinness most have nighmares about picking young O Connor over McBrearty that afternoon."
You can keep crying about if you want to it won't change the result, we have had numerous coulda woulda shuddas down the years and no one ever has any time for it.

If the opposition decide the to sit in their shells and play guerilla warfare you have to defend against it and unfortunately no one would argue it's a pretty sight

Look at Dublin since 2014, and their games vs Ulster opposition Vs non Ulster opposition the difference is night and day. Unless the GAA do something drastic nothing will change and the usual suspects will try and block and mention of a change and tell us everything is fine

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 18/03/2017 07:31:38    1968052

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "With 14 men and patsy Bradley wounded. Crokes would of picked them off easily."
And so what if they did? This attitude is what is wrong. What difference does a 2 point and 6/7 point margin matter at the end of the day.

Why not try and rattle Crokes with 10 minutes to go. They have lost a lot of close games in Kerry and outside in recent years and weren't playing anywhere near the best so any serious pressure would likely have yielded good results. After a minute or two they should have copped on that Crokes weren't going to just lamp in the ball willy-nilly. Indeed a quick video analysis before the game would have told them that

Instead of dying on their shield they just tamely faded which is disappointing, they didn't even use all their subs which is mystifying in the circumstances

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 18/03/2017 07:40:53    1968053

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Replying To TheRightStuff:  "Ulster people do not deny that Ultra defensive football is dire.

Look at the Donegal forum and see how much I have slated my own county's tactics.

The problem we have is that it's labelled at us ' ah them northern teams'

How did northern sides bring cynicism to a new level ? Give examples please .

Kerry , Dublin , Mayo , Tyrone and Donegal each as cynical and defensive as each other .

James O' Donohue moved to wing back V us in the league, Cillian O' Connor was picking up short kick outs V Roscommon.

Let's finally accept this .

The wonderful aristocrats of football are no different than the evil souls up north .
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What did Donaghy say again in his book about the Donegal league clash last year in his book ?"
Donegal tried open football against us this year for the first and last time this year and got eviscerated while doing so, we'd only love Ulster teams to have the courage to play man on man but alas they stay in their shells and play guerilla warfare

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 18/03/2017 07:44:42    1968055

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Here I gave you a thumbs up there, you seem to crave them.

Enjoy Tralee tomorrow, the bullring is a great walk up to Austin Stacks"
Nah I never make the trip down if the game is on in Tralee

Killarney on the other hand, far nicer spot, and worthy of my money. Better standards really across the board.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 18/03/2017 08:44:23    1968060

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So the Nordies (mainly Tyrone and Donegal) bring in puke football and I slate It all the nordy posters destroy me on here tell me to get with the time yet when Dr Crokes copy the nordy style yesterday all the nordies are crying saying it was puke football and how cynical Crokes were haha you couldn't make it up ,yes Crokes played puke football and we're cynical but you's seemed to have no problem with your county team playing the exact same style the last decade. Well done Gooch you deserve your club all Ireland now you should retire cause your a shadow of the great player you once were in my own opinion. Also Rodgers full back you couldn't win it all on your own but you nearly did he was outstanding, one last thing number 5 in hurling threw a punch no booking even, in football it's a red card , we've gone so soft it's ridiculous.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 18/03/2017 09:50:00    1968067

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The ref & linesmen missed another two red card offences, one a stamp by a Crokes player as his opponent was lying on the ground over the sideline, right in front of the linesman, it was a deliberate strike, stamp & should have seen red & also the strike on Bradley. Dàithí Casey who when playing football was excellent but got away with numerous personal fouls including one black card offence. The inconsistency & standard of officiating was only matched by the standard of football on display. Gaelic football now on a par with cricket, a total borefest.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 18/03/2017 10:06:07    1968071

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Replying To TheUsername:  "I didn't think the game was any more cynical then in any game that's tight and evenly matched.

SN, shot selection was poor and they were prone to poor decisions. Crokes were far more clinical. Both teams plays some lovely stuff at times.

Crokes were very disciplined in defence and hard to break down, the expierence their lads had of playing in Croke park helped. Crokes could in the right places, SN gave needless frees away within scoring distance those fine margins win championships and that's what Crokes did today.

Club football is wholly different to county football and because lads are blaming at more a spectrum of fitness and conditioning, more mistakes and bad decisions are made.

Forget the spectacle and the Gooch, the gesture by the Crokes team to young Aoife O Connor is what GAA in the community is all about and stole the show today a magnificent well done to Crokes for that I imagine it touched the whole country."
Had to get to page 3 of this tripe to read a decent post - well said but Christ there is some a- holes on thins main forum

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 18/03/2017 10:44:43    1968075

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Here I gave you a thumbs up there, you seem to crave them.

Enjoy Tralee tomorrow, the bullring is a great walk up to Austin Stacks"
Excellent but Hermit don't forget there is a free car parking and valet service available too in the ring just mention the unsername here and you'll be sorted

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 18/03/2017 10:50:15    1968076

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "So the Nordies (mainly Tyrone and Donegal) bring in puke football and I slate It all the nordy posters destroy me on here tell me to get with the time yet when Dr Crokes copy the nordy style yesterday all the nordies are crying saying it was puke football and how cynical Crokes were haha you couldn't make it up ,yes Crokes played puke football and we're cynical but you's seemed to have no problem with your county team playing the exact same style the last decade. Well done Gooch you deserve your club all Ireland now you should retire cause your a shadow of the great player you once were in my own opinion. Also Rodgers full back you couldn't win it all on your own but you nearly did he was outstanding, one last thing number 5 in hurling threw a punch no booking even, in football it's a red card , we've gone so soft it's ridiculous."
One of a. Very few t make sense - well said enjoy Tralee tonight and safe journey up and down

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 18/03/2017 10:53:49    1968077

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