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Tyrone: several forwards short of a winning team

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Replying To HandballRef:  "Lee Brennan scored 3-14 for Trillick yeaterday, 3-08 from play. Thats outrageous. Did he even play in the League this year for Tyrone?"
Great scoring from Lee. Tyrone decided on keeping the u21's for the u21 championship. Great option to have for championship time.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 16/04/2017 13:30:32    1979847

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Replying To HandballRef:  "Lee Brennan scored 3-14 for Trillick yeaterday, 3-08 from play. Thats outrageous. Did he even play in the League this year for Tyrone?"
Serious damage by Lee Brennan. If he could do only half of that in a county game we'd be looking a lot more capable. I hope he gets a chance this summer. Don't see any good reason not to try him given we've lost Mc Alliskey for the year and nobody else up front is performing this well for their clubs.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 16/04/2017 13:43:31    1979850

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "Serious damage by Lee Brennan. If he could do only half of that in a county game we'd be looking a lot more capable. I hope he gets a chance this summer. Don't see any good reason not to try him given we've lost Mc Alliskey for the year and nobody else up front is performing this well for their clubs."
Let's hope so Seanie. Didn't think he played well over the two u21 games against Donegal. Hope that was just a blip-it happens.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 16/04/2017 13:57:33    1979852

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "Serious damage by Lee Brennan. If he could do only half of that in a county game we'd be looking a lot more capable. I hope he gets a chance this summer. Don't see any good reason not to try him given we've lost Mc Alliskey for the year and nobody else up front is performing this well for their clubs."
Let's hope so Seanie. Didn't think he played well over the two u21 games against Donegal. Hope that was just a blip-it happens.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 16/04/2017 13:57:34    1979853

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Replying To southtyronegael:  "hartes out at the end of the year whether he steps down or not.[which he wont
. mattie mc gleenan the man to come in and try to rebuild tyrone football but its gonna be a hard job after the mess harte has left."]don't be fooled by the fact that the county board only gave Mickey a one year extension that they won't just give him another one each year. He's not a premier league manager and doesnt need to sign 4 year deals etc.

As for Mattie McGleenon. He has a lot to prove at county level and has only taken charge at Cavan this year. I doubt he will be leaving after one year with so many questions still unanswered on his capabilities.

If that is plan B then I think Mickey is safe for the time being.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 16/04/2017 16:31:12    1979887

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I see that young Lee Brennan scores 3-14 in a club game, 3-08 from play! What does this lad have to do to get a place in a full forward line that is mediocre at best?

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 18/04/2017 13:36:23    1980435

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "I see that young Lee Brennan scores 3-14 in a club game, 3-08 from play! What does this lad have to do to get a place in a full forward line that is mediocre at best?"
Please read these post carefully: Tyrone did not play their u21 players in the senior NFL. They decided to let the u21's train and play together to give them the best chance possible. That is why he didn't play. If he was available I'm sure he would off got game time.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 18/04/2017 14:21:09    1980453

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Please read these post carefully: Tyrone did not play their u21 players in the senior NFL. They decided to let the u21's train and play together to give them the best chance possible. That is why he didn't play. If he was available I'm sure he would off got game time."
So do you reckon he will start in championship?

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 18/04/2017 16:05:17    1980490

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another top players we will be very hard to beat the year with players coming through

ulster83 (Tyrone) - Posts: 114 - 18/04/2017 16:32:47    1980504

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "So do you reckon he will start in championship?"
No if I'm honest. Mark Bradley at this stage is better. He kicked 7 points against Carrickmore in a tight feisty encounter while Lee was scoring 3-14 against poor opponents (sorry Strabane, great club but will be fighting relegation). Bradley also kicked 9 I think against a good Coalisland team in the pressure situation of the Tyrone championship final. Lee was poor in the two games against Donegal at his own age group. However I do believe he will long productive career with Tyrone.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 18/04/2017 17:02:40    1980521

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "No if I'm honest. Mark Bradley at this stage is better. He kicked 7 points against Carrickmore in a tight feisty encounter while Lee was scoring 3-14 against poor opponents (sorry Strabane, great club but will be fighting relegation). Bradley also kicked 9 I think against a good Coalisland team in the pressure situation of the Tyrone championship final. Lee was poor in the two games against Donegal at his own age group. However I do believe he will long productive career with Tyrone."
Tyrone I feel, need a change on the sideline. A fresh approach might just give them a lift.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 18/04/2017 17:22:00    1980527

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "No if I'm honest. Mark Bradley at this stage is better. He kicked 7 points against Carrickmore in a tight feisty encounter while Lee was scoring 3-14 against poor opponents (sorry Strabane, great club but will be fighting relegation). Bradley also kicked 9 I think against a good Coalisland team in the pressure situation of the Tyrone championship final. Lee was poor in the two games against Donegal at his own age group. However I do believe he will long productive career with Tyrone."
Actually I agree about Bradley but I wouldn't replace him I would have Brennan and Bradley in two corners supporting a big man in square Sean or McNulty. Tyrone then can either play the passing game or knock it in high whatever the game demands - just my humble opinion - you guys need a plan B.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 18/04/2017 17:26:08    1980528

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "Actually I agree about Bradley but I wouldn't replace him I would have Brennan and Bradley in two corners supporting a big man in square Sean or McNulty. Tyrone then can either play the passing game or knock it in high whatever the game demands - just my humble opinion - you guys need a plan B."
Certainly an option. Bradley and Brennan in the corners could be the answer. McCurry and Ronan O'Neill are other options I suppose. Miss McAliskey, the other 4 are small corner forwards. McAliskey has a bit more physically about him.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 18/04/2017 20:54:38    1980574

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Tyrone I feel, need a change on the sideline. A fresh approach might just give them a lift."
who??

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 18/04/2017 21:31:43    1980596

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Brennan's never been given a meaningful chance at county level, and may never get one. A new player needs a few games to settle in. Some Tyrone players get that, but not Brennan. It's either a few minutes and if there isn't instant gold dust, then he's off again. Or mostly he's not on at all. Brennan is an old-school type of pure forward. The modern game, and not just Tyrone or Harte, prefers runners and people who put as much or more effort into tracking back as they do to scoring, even if they have less natural talent, and who fit into team scores where you need 6 forwards to get one score as none of them have the ability to go round a man unaided.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 19/04/2017 09:28:43    1980673

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Replying To essmac:  "Brennan's never been given a meaningful chance at county level, and may never get one. A new player needs a few games to settle in. Some Tyrone players get that, but not Brennan. It's either a few minutes and if there isn't instant gold dust, then he's off again. Or mostly he's not on at all. Brennan is an old-school type of pure forward. The modern game, and not just Tyrone or Harte, prefers runners and people who put as much or more effort into tracking back as they do to scoring, even if they have less natural talent, and who fit into team scores where you need 6 forwards to get one score as none of them have the ability to go round a man unaided."
You have it spot on, modern day forwards are there to make space for the runners coming through. Tyrone are not alone in preferring runners rather than the old fashioned skillful corner forward, even Kerry and Dublin are moving to a running game.

I saw the Tyrone under 21 team play twice this year and was very impressed with David Mulgrew and Lee Brennan. Brennan scored one point against Donegal which was a thing of sheer beauty with the outside of the left boot. I don't think the issue is with having no talented forwards, it is the game plan. Sure Donegal have given up on Michael Murphy at full forward as he wasn't getting a ball put into him. It is an absolute nightmare for forwards in modern day football.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 19/04/2017 09:53:24    1980678

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "who??"
Claudio Ranieri!

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 19/04/2017 11:19:26    1980714

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Claudio Ranieri!"
about as helpful as your original post

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 19/04/2017 14:01:37    1980791

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "No if I'm honest. Mark Bradley at this stage is better. He kicked 7 points against Carrickmore in a tight feisty encounter while Lee was scoring 3-14 against poor opponents (sorry Strabane, great club but will be fighting relegation). Bradley also kicked 9 I think against a good Coalisland team in the pressure situation of the Tyrone championship final. Lee was poor in the two games against Donegal at his own age group. However I do believe he will long productive career with Tyrone."
Actually I agree about Bradley but I wouldn't replace him I would have Brennan and Bradley in two corners supporting a big man in square Sean or McNulty. Tyrone then can either play the passing game or knock it in high whatever the game demands - just my humble opinion - you guys need a plan B.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 19/04/2017 15:29:42    1980829

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Claudio Ranieri!"
What is your problem Saffron Don? This is a forum where posters can enter their ideas on any topic they wish to express an opinion. I happen to feel legitimately that Tyrone football might benefit from a fresh approach. The great team of the noughties which won 3 AI titles is no more, and a rebuilding process is required. Mickey Harte deserves great credit for that, but now a fresh face on the sideline could just be the answer. Tyrone Co. Board are maybe feeling the same, hence a one year extension for the manager.

I also think they do not have enough forward talent presently, to make the breakthrough.
I am not familiar enough with the Ulster scene to comment on a possible new Tyrone manager. Maybe you might care to put forward your ideas. Until then,get over yourself.
I will continue to comment on matters on this forum, if you do not like that fine.

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thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 19/04/2017 17:41:26    1980863

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