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I wouldn't take too much notice of these lazy comments made by Willie McCreery. Seriously, starting a thread on this is just a means to moan and proclaim football loyalty to a province because your own county is not up to much. Willie is wrong, it was a stupid statement however he was better than any midfielder that's played for Antrim. Not much of a pundit though so he should stick to the horses. jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 16/07/2017 02:36:02 2017293 Link
Replying To Soma: "I wouldn't think Willie would have much interest in football punditry considering how successful and busy he is with his horse training. Perhaps he was just asked a question and gave an honest opinion, an opinion many agree with?! I don't know what he would be begrudging either considering 1 senior All-Ireland has gone to Ulster this decade, surely if he is the begrudging sort he would have more to say on Dublin or Kerry?" You honestly have put me off this forum . Your visceral hatred of Ulster is worrying . You dint even name your own county - sad state of affairs really lol . No wonder people don't post this any more . Beggars belief really Anyway you get your kick out of hating a province - well done . TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 16/07/2017 03:28:53 2017296 Link
Replying To TheRightStuff: "You honestly have put me off this forum . Your visceral hatred of Ulster is worrying . You dint even name your own county - sad state of affairs really lol . No wonder people don't post this any more . Beggars belief really Anyway you get your kick out of hating a province - well done ." I have no hatred of Ulster at all TRS, but I do hate negative football no matter who is playing it. Here is some of a post you put on Hoganstand last year after the Donegal v Tyrone game, how you can then have a go at Willie McCreery or anyone else for saying they don't like negative football is beyond me. "I was in the Gerry Arthur stand yesterday beside a number of massive GAA men - they felt the same and are simply sick of football. One guy told me that U14 teams are now playing with a blanket defense - that is a disgrace. There was no enjoyment in Clones yesterday- it wasnt fascinating. It was a painful and horrible football experience. I dont even think I would of enjoyed the win it was such puke. Apologies for the negativity but thats how I and my colleagues at the game felt." Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/07/2017 09:54:49 2017332 Link
Replying To 3Dhurling: "Doesnt matter whether or not you heard of him. He's entitled to his opinion." Totally agree. You don't need to be a top player with a bagful of All Ireland's to have an opinion and one that is worth listening to - that's why we are all in here, lol! Willie McCreery is a Kildare legend in the best Kildare team ever but I suspect Ulsterman already knows that!! Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 16/07/2017 10:27:52 2017346 Link
Replying To TheRightStuff: "Nothing new with WMCs comments . The abuse thrown at Ulster sides is disgusting. Roscommon had 15 players behind the ball for about 70% v Galway - not a mention . McCreery was a good player but like many hasn't a clue about the modern game so who cares. Probably a bitter man . He must love watcing Munster and Connacht football ." Which game were you watching where Roscommon had 15 behind the ball? They went man for man against Galway for large parts of that game. You're confusing them with Donegal! Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 16/07/2017 10:30:33 2017348 Link
Good footballer - but it was a lazy throwaway comment cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1671 - 16/07/2017 10:36:02 2017352 Link
Replying To Sindar: "Which game were you watching where Roscommon had 15 behind the ball? They went man for man against Galway for large parts of that game. You're confusing them with Donegal!" Yes he was watching the Meath v Donegal game. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2154 - 16/07/2017 11:07:41 2017359 Link
Replying To realdub: "You lost me at I like Willie" Ha ha ha!! I knew just after i posted! It sounded like something out of Killinaskully. The lady walkers campaigning for councillor Willie Power with t-shirts 'I'm for Willie' on the back!! Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 16/07/2017 11:14:52 2017363 Link
Replying To Soma: "I have no hatred of Ulster at all TRS, but I do hate negative football no matter who is playing it. Here is some of a post you put on Hoganstand last year after the Donegal v Tyrone game, how you can then have a go at Willie McCreery or anyone else for saying they don't like negative football is beyond me. "I was in the Gerry Arthur stand yesterday beside a number of massive GAA men - they felt the same and are simply sick of football. One guy told me that U14 teams are now playing with a blanket defense - that is a disgrace. There was no enjoyment in Clones yesterday- it wasnt fascinating. It was a painful and horrible football experience. I dont even think I would of enjoyed the win it was such puke. Apologies for the negativity but thats how I and my colleagues at the game felt."" Hardly a great secret that I detest modern day football. As you've pointed out - most Donegal people don't like it but everyone else is playing it too . McCreerys comments are uneducated and frankly ridiculous. Carlow went 14 behind the ball and nobody is slating them . It's the hypocrisy of people . I was at the Dublin Kerry final in 2015 -ended 12-9 with both sides packing their defence . Not an issue . Down will either pack their defense today or get a hammering. I like Down by the way. Glad you visit our forum though . TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 16/07/2017 11:31:39 2017371 Link
Replying To Sindar: "Which game were you watching where Roscommon had 15 behind the ball? They went man for man against Galway for large parts of that game. You're confusing them with Donegal!" Ah here . Man to man -that's a good one . TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 16/07/2017 11:34:30 2017372 Link
Replying To Sindar: "Totally agree. You don't need to be a top player with a bagful of All Ireland's to have an opinion and one that is worth listening to - that's why we are all in here, lol! Willie McCreery is a Kildare legend in the best Kildare team ever but I suspect Ulsterman already knows that!!" I think the point is you need to base your opinion on something resembling what's actually semi factual. Most Kildare people on this forum are saying that Willie is flat out at the horses and good luck to him - so why come out with stuff based on ignorance. Some of the best matches this year have come from Ulster. Half the teams left in AI series are Ulster teams - I watched 2 Ulster teams yesterday who came up against southern teams who packed their defenses - I for the life of me don't understand this constant ridicule of Ulster football based on total untruths - the author of Puke Football himself Pat Spillane recently clarified his position on that and actually now admits what Tyrone did a decade and a half ago as revolutionary and that he was a big fan of their football - seems the people Pat had following him 15 years ago haven't heard his new narrative! IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 16/07/2017 11:44:47 2017379 Link
Why is a journalists asking a horse trainer about Ulster football? That is the question we should be asking. Word coming from the pubs in Cootehill that Cavan are on the look out for a new manager. Pete McGrath number one of the list of targets. foxes_denn (Cavan) - Posts: 129 - 16/07/2017 15:21:49 2017449 Link
Replying To foxes_denn: "Why is a journalists asking a horse trainer about Ulster football? That is the question we should be asking. Word coming from the pubs in Cootehill that Cavan are on the look out for a new manager. Pete McGrath number one of the list of targets." Understandable but if I were a Down fan I would be looking him back - what are Fermanagh at??? IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 16/07/2017 19:39:23 2017634 Link
Replying To TheRightStuff: "Nothing new with WMCs comments . The abuse thrown at Ulster sides is disgusting. Roscommon had 15 players behind the ball for about 70% v Galway - not a mention . McCreery was a good player but like many hasn't a clue about the modern game so who cares. Probably a bitter man . He must love watcing Munster and Connacht football ." Well no thats a lie the 2 murtaghs were not beyond the half way line and anyway they scored 2-15 so what is your point? its not like the only scored 7 points, they massacred Galway. Rosfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 778 - 16/07/2017 20:06:16 2017650 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "In fairness I never heard of anyone in the south give out about Down football, personally i lobe watching them play." Hope you enjoyed them today then Royaldunne -personally I thought they were poor enough but as long as they continue to entertain some of our free-state compatriots I'm happy enough. redhandroar (Tyrone) - Posts: 59 - 16/07/2017 21:31:38 2017712 Link
Replying To Laois76: "I'm sorry to hear about your knees and joints. Ageing sucks. You can't turn or run the way you used to, you play with kids and the next day your crippled. We have to make the best of it though and be thankful for what we had and what we've still got. I was just watching a documentary with my brother on Jonah Lomu returning to South Africa in 2015, 20 years after that World Cup. His muscles were disintegrating and he was shuffling around with Nephrotic Syndrome. He met Joost Van der Westhuizen, in the later stages of Motor Neuron. Very emotional meeting but both men were so brave. I don't know you Ulsterman and what you suffer but i presume the 2 of us are better off than those rugby greats who have sadly passed away. Chin up. Antrim like Laois will rise again and hopefully we'll both be around to see it. I understand where you are coming from in terms of players being 'softer' i feel a bit the same about Laois. Unfortunately the age we're in now isn't conducive to producing players like in the past in my opinion. Probably poverty and tougher times put more fire in the belly." I'm really confused now ... Is this you, your brother or has your nephew commandeered the laptop? Why two different replies to the same post? Why is your brother Kilkenny while you're Laois? Difficult not to have suspicions of a multiple account situation -but maybe that's just my suspicious mind. redhandroar (Tyrone) - Posts: 59 - 16/07/2017 22:17:50 2017743 Link
Replying To TheRightStuff: "Horrible post . Posters like you put me and many others off this forum. Very distasteful stuff altogether." What's distasteful in what I said? If he doesn't know who Willie McCreery is, he must not have followed football in the 90s. Just assumed he only started following it after Willie retired. It's my opinion that Ulster teams from 2002 onwards changed football for the worse. Willie's opinion that he can't watch Ulster football and he doesn't like the way it's gone is a fair one to have. That doesn't mean that Ulster haven't produced great players. McConville, O'Neill, Canavan, McDonnell etc were indeed great skilful players, but that doesn't magically make the style of football Tyrone and Armagh played good to watch. HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 16/07/2017 23:26:35 2017774 Link
Replying To redhandroar: "Hope you enjoyed them today then Royaldunne -personally I thought they were poor enough but as long as they continue to entertain some of our free-state compatriots I'm happy enough." Why are you using the term free state? What does that make you? A subject of the Queen? HurlingSnob (Dublin) - Posts: 220 - 16/07/2017 23:31:43 2017775 Link
Replying To HurlingSnob: "What's distasteful in what I said? If he doesn't know who Willie McCreery is, he must not have followed football in the 90s. Just assumed he only started following it after Willie retired. It's my opinion that Ulster teams from 2002 onwards changed football for the worse. Willie's opinion that he can't watch Ulster football and he doesn't like the way it's gone is a fair one to have. That doesn't mean that Ulster haven't produced great players. McConville, O'Neill, Canavan, McDonnell etc were indeed great skilful players, but that doesn't magically make the style of football Tyrone and Armagh played good to watch." I thought Tyrone and Armagh played great direct football in the noughties - you of all should remember some classics between Armagh and yourselves - 02 semi-final when Cosgrove hit the post etc. These were great years if you ask me. Fantastic Kerry, Tyrone and Mayo teams also. It was Jim McGuiness Donegal that took us to the ultra-defensive era - this came many years after 02. Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 17/07/2017 00:21:59 2017786 Link
Replying To redhandroar: "I'm really confused now ... Is this you, your brother or has your nephew commandeered the laptop? Why two different replies to the same post? Why is your brother Kilkenny while you're Laois? Difficult not to have suspicions of a multiple account situation -but maybe that's just my suspicious mind." Kilkenny and Laois border each other. It's not uncommon for two people in one house to support different teams. My girlfriend lives along Tipp/Kilkenny and Waterford border. She's kilkenny as is her brother. Her mother is Waterford and her dad is Tipp. It happens. GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 17/07/2017 07:28:10 2017815 Link