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hill16no1man You argue exactly like my girlfriend. Deep down you know you are wrong. All the evidence is right in your face and proving you wrong but you just keep repeating the same thing over and over until I realize you are too ignorant to facts to be proven wrong & give up. white.n.blue (Monaghan) - Posts: 249 - 11/04/2017 22:22:27 1978601 Link
Replying To Tacaí Liatroma: " Replying To CastleBravo: "[quote=KYTotalFootball: "So every team sport in the world emphasises and rewards good play with home advantage (see Champions League, American Sports in particular) yet somehow in the GAA* it magically doesn't exist * if we ignore Davy Fits refusal to play Tipp in Thurles in the League Semi Final on Sunday week or Derek McGrath last year's Munster Final link" How does the Champions league reward a team with home advantage? Aside from the final venue determined years in advance (generally at a non club stadium) every tie is home and away 2 legs, whether it be Barcelona vs. Bayern in a semi final, or teams from the Faroes and Andorra playing each other in the first qualifier round in June." "How does the Champions league reward a team with home advantage?" In the first knockout round, the group winners are drawn against the group runners-up. The group winners are given home advantage in the second leg, meaning that when they know what they have to do in the second leg, they will be in their home stadium. Home advantage is particularly more important in soccer. A home team's fans demand more attacking football, and soccer fans tend to be more, let us say, feisty than GAA fans, leading to more intimidation of the opposition and of the referee."]So the referee and opposition aren't intimidated in the GAA Absolute nonsense KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 11/04/2017 22:47:16 1978608 Link
Replying To white.n.blue: "hill16no1man You argue exactly like my girlfriend. Deep down you know you are wrong. All the evidence is right in your face and proving you wrong but you just keep repeating the same thing over and over until I realize you are too ignorant to facts to be proven wrong & give up." I think it's you who can't see the facts that it only exists in the mindset and like most things in life if you change your mindset to a positive one the results will follow. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/04/2017 22:58:19 1978613 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "hill16no1man Where would you rather your club play a crunch match against Naomh Fionnbarra? At home or away? If you say it makes no difference playing them in the Bogies or at home you are literally mad!" End of argument - the bogies scary arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 11/04/2017 23:20:06 1978619 Link
Players have the same ability wherever the match is played, so simple, home or away makes no difference watsoever, I played county and played equally as good in longford as I would in wex park, it boils to players, not supporters, or generally speaking not refs, Teddy5 (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 12/04/2017 08:49:23 1978669 Link
Replying To hill16no1man: "What evidence physically? People keep saying there is but yet can't give one simple fact of evidence physically to give you an advantage. because more teams may have won at home than away only proves the point that its a mindset issue not proved the fact there's any physical advantage." You don't have to travel as far. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/04/2017 08:59:53 1978676 Link
Replying To arock: " Replying To MesAmis: "hill16no1man Where would you rather your club play a crunch match against Naomh Fionnbarra? At home or away? If you say it makes no difference playing them in the Bogies or at home you are literally mad!" End of argument - the bogies scary" The boogies is the ultimate test of one's manhood it's good for the spirit best team building exercise you will get hahahahaha Playing them at home is for choir boys hahahaha hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/04/2017 09:25:36 1978680 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "You don't have to travel as far." Thats where the warm up comes in. regardless of if you sitting in a bus to get to pitch or walk down from your house it is designed to get you to match level. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/04/2017 09:30:05 1978682 Link
Replying To hill16no1man: " Replying To MesAmis: "hill16no1man Where would you rather your club play a crunch match against Naomh Fionnbarra? At home or away? If you say it makes no difference playing them in the Bogies or at home you are literally mad!" Hahahahahaha Going to the boogies is a test of one's manhood hahahaha it would be a health and safety decision to play that game at home haha" A health and safety decision? Like a physical reason why the venue makes a difference? Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12115 - 12/04/2017 09:33:48 1978685 Link
Replying To Teddy5: "Players have the same ability wherever the match is played, so simple, home or away makes no difference watsoever, I played county and played equally as good in longford as I would in wex park, it boils to players, not supporters, or generally speaking not refs," Right ok, good for you. You're right, the evidence to the contrary is just wrong. I feel really lucky you took part in this discussion or I'd have come to my conclusions solely using rigorous analysis and not taken into account your ability to play to the same standard in Longford. Such vital information. Ffs some of you guys are beyond reasonable, rational discussion. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 12/04/2017 09:39:42 1978690 Link
Replying To The_Fridge: "You don't have to travel as far." And that makes you less of a player omg Teddy5 (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 12/04/2017 09:39:57 1978691 Link
Of course it's an advantage. Same way an advantage for Monaghan playing Ulster semi finals and finals in Clones. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 12/04/2017 09:40:07 1978692 Link
Replying To FoolsGold: "Of course it's an advantage. Same way an advantage for Monaghan playing Ulster semi finals and finals in Clones." How will a player play any better at home ? Does he run faster, jump higher, kick more accurately, pass better, more disciplined ? No he doesn't Teddy5 (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 12/04/2017 10:01:55 1978704 Link
Replying To Teddy5: "And that makes you less of a player omg" What? If you have to travel in a bus from Tyrone to Kerry on the morning off a game it is an advantage to play at home. Simply because you don't have to travel for 6 hours. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/04/2017 10:12:24 1978710 Link
Replying To hill16no1man: "Thats where the warm up comes in. regardless of if you sitting in a bus to get to pitch or walk down from your house it is designed to get you to match level." If you are sitting on a bus for 7 hours of a game it is an advantage to play at home. Another small thing is the home team offen getting the better changing rooms. I've been in changing rooms were you can't swing a cat never mind warm up or stretch or get physio. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/04/2017 10:15:26 1978713 Link
Replying To hill16no1man: "Thats where the warm up comes in. regardless of if you sitting in a bus to get to pitch or walk down from your house it is designed to get you to match level." If you are sitting on a bus for 7 hours of a game it is an advantage to play at home. Another small thing is the home team offen getting the better changing rooms. I've been in changing rooms were you can't swing a cat never mind warm up or stretch or get physio. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 12/04/2017 10:15:27 1978714 Link
I wonder what the going rate per point is in the Premier league these days. In hill16's world clubs should be spending 9 figure amounts on their sports psychology departments. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 12/04/2017 10:51:36 1978726 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "I wonder what the going rate per point is in the Premier league these days. In hill16's world clubs should be spending 9 figure amounts on their sports psychology departments." Actually more like 7/8 figures but a damn sight more than they're paid right now. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 12/04/2017 11:26:02 1978744 Link
I think it goes farther than simply home or away. I think teams simply like & are comfortable playing in some grounds than others. As a case in point the Donegal football team have a great record in Ballybofey where they haven't lost a game in years while Letterkenny is a graveyard & they have turned in some truly brutal performances there in recent times to the extent that many Donegal supporters simply won't go to games there. At the same time the Donegal hurling team have a good record in Letterkenny & are quite happy there. It's a funny thing mental attitude & hard to pin down but it is a real factor & most players would rather play at home than away. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 12/04/2017 11:35:45 1978747 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "Right ok, good for you. You're right, the evidence to the contrary is just wrong. I feel really lucky you took part in this discussion or I'd have come to my conclusions solely using rigorous analysis and not taken into account your ability to play to the same standard in Longford. Such vital information. Ffs some of you guys are beyond reasonable, rational discussion." I agree with some of what you say whammo but you can't complain about reasonable rational debate and then back up your points with results in Nigerian soccer which is completely corrupt - it has no relevance at all as to why recent league results show little difference between playing at home or away. Most serious teams who have to travel for more than 3 hours to a game stay in a hotel overnight. They get a proper evening meal, some pool time, a full nights sleep, a proper breakfast in the morning and a team meeting before heading to the ground. Surely that is an advantage over the home teams preparation and might explain things a little. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 12/04/2017 11:44:03 1978756 Link